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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:35 AM
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Media swoon over Palin's fiery speech
Source: yahoo news

Media swoon over Palin's fiery speech Michael Calderone
Thu Sep 4, 1:45 AM ET

ST. PAUL, Minn. — NBC political director Chuck Todd, weighing in shortly after Sarah Palin’s fiery speech before the Republican faithful, declared: “Conservatives have found their Obama.”

Right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham agreed, telling Fox’s Greta Van Susteren that it was the “night conservatives have been waiting for.”

Ingraham continued with high praise: “It’s one of the best political speeches I have heard — ever!"

...

Over on Fox, the panel was more flattering.

“You see tonight that Sarah Palin has served the cause of uniting this convention quite ably,” said anchor Brit Hume. “She certainly has galvanized elements of the party behind McCain within the conservative wing of the party, which had not been enthusiastic for him before.”

...

And the headline on RedState said it all: “Sarah Palin. An Amazing, Historic, Epic Win.”

“Sarah Palin took to the podium tonight and gave the speech of a lifetime,” wrote RedState’s Erick Erickson, “perhaps the best nationally broadcast political introduction in the convention history, and a knockout blow to the Obama-Biden campaign and their pals in the media.”





Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080904/pl_politico/13148



"media" being right-wing nutjobs, fauxsnooze, and ... REDSTATE.COM?????
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:37 AM
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1. great speech =attacking and being divisive ? n/t
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:38 AM
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2. They're Republicans.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 11:38 AM by mwb970
Sarcasm, mocking, attacks, divisiveness - yes, it's their way, and they love it! Pathetic creeps.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:38 AM
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3. Desperate effort to put lipstick on the pig McCain stuck them with
They're really going overboard, and people can see through it.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:42 AM
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6. I believe the phrase is now 'lipstick on a pitbull'
I do have to admit to a mental association with the old "lipstick on a pig" when I heard Pitbull with Lipstick used. What were they thinking?
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:36 PM
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21. OMG, Linda Tripp is back
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:38 AM
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4. a knockout blow to the Obama-Biden campaign?
Really? Wow, I guess they better throw in the towel now... what is with these spinster idiots?

:wtf:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:37 PM
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23. a knockout blow my ... (+20 EVs for O/B) :^D
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 12:44 PM by Amonester
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:53 PM
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28. That chart is a terrific way to look at things.
I know we can not relax and we must keep on fighting for Obama though.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:29 PM
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31. Yes, no time to relax.
Not sure if those polls were done before or after the "speech" (full of lies and other ugly attacks, and mockery of good people's community works), but it's positive to see the blue line's going back up.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:39 AM
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5. What's bad for America is ALWAYS good for the media.
It's like the GDP counting medical services as a positive for our country's economy when in fact, no one wants to get sick and need those services. It's not good at all.

Her speech was bad for America because it further polarizes the country. Palin McCain can never lead this country. They've earned our hate just as cheney bush did. It is a fact that these dolts want to be cheney bush's third term.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:48 AM
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8. not to get off topic, but medical services are appropriately in gdp
it has nothing to do with whether or not you're happy to get the goods and services. besides, some medical care is essential, and an essential good. i'm a chronic migraineur and need meds to function normally. there's some value in doctors and pharmaceutical companies helping me out, notwithstanding that i'd rather not get the migraines in the first place.

what IS a problem is that gdp ideally would measure the VALUE of the goods and services, not the PRICE.

part of the price is a function of our completely fscked up healthcare system. imagine if more competition and effective distribution resulted in TWICE as many medical services provided at HALF the price. gdp would not be directly affected at all, but no one can deny that the economy would be MUCH improved.

unfortunately, economists have a very tough time making the value judgments needed for a more appropriate metric, so they stick with price as an "objective" measure. or to look at it another way, a true economist would say that gdp is intended to be a price-based measure, and that there's no "value" implied.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:45 AM
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7. LOL. I went over to Redstate, they are Hitler's bunker over there.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 11:48 AM by wienerdoggie
They are delusional (same with Freepville). They simply have a sexual obsession for this woman, because she's their dream girl who's hawt but likes to do all the same stuff THEY like to do (kill animals, fish, screw people over, etc.), and is also a mother doing the holy God-sanctioned work of squeezing many, many children out of her vagina, which just sends them over the orgasmic edge. I had to laugh--it's like they either don't realize how people OUTSIDE of their 30-percent world view her, or don't care. Because they'll just keep calling her "Sarah Barracuda" and posting pictures of her looking into a rifle scope or propping up a dead animal's head, and getting hard. The GOP men just wanted a poster girl to jack off to, that's why they eliminated older and more qualified women from consideration.
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:54 AM
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9. Fascist carisma, behold the agent of the oily military industrialist
FASCISM, BREAKDOWN OF DEMOCRACY, AUTHORITARIAN AND TOTALITARIAN ...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:55 AM
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10. Yep. I was astonished they didn't pick Hutchinson because that
woman COULD believably draw disaffected Hillary supporters with her pro-choice stance, and she has credible experience to go head to head against Biden.

I just wonder if Biden is too much of a gentleman to really savage Palin in the VP debates.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:02 PM
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12. Yep--Hutchison, Fiorina, even Condi--all would have strengthened
the ticket, but they didn't want accomplishment and stature wrapped in an ordinary package, because the male-dominated sexist Republican party doesn't respect older, less-attractive women. Can't spin a sexy cartoonish legend out of those women. Instead they went for a less-qualified but prettier package, filled with the same old elephant shit.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:59 PM
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30. not to mention
that Hutchison and Rice, especially, (Fiorina, I'm not so sure) have experience on the national/international level. It would be very, very hard to order them about because they know too much how things are done. Palin has no experience---and it's easier to control and order about someone who doesn't know what they're doing. She will do as she's told and not think for herself. She will bring on Cheney's 3rd term-in fact, she'd probably let him keep the office so he can keep his little shadow government running.
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moez Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:19 PM
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16. Hutchinson would have disintegrated their base.
They needed someone to shore up the "conservative" portion of the base. If it wasn't for that, McCain would have chosen Lieberman....
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:52 PM
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27. No. Biden is smart.
He is lulling her into a false sense of herself and her abilities. Anyone listening to that speech who has logic and good sense on their side knew that she had nothing but bluster. The only way to back up bluster when confronted on it is to cry and whine. It's what girl bully-thugs do all the time. They talk all shit, talk tough, blah blah, but when you turn on them and make them back up that bluster, they'll start crying--and they cry to manipulate and deflect their behavior and transform themselves into victims when in reality, they are the aggressors who refuse to take responsibility for what they've done.

Biden is right is building her up, being gentile about her--because the fact is, living in a state bordered by the Canadian and Russian sticks where your biggest "international" problem is the migrating animals who belong there doesn't mean that you have the requisite foreign policy experience to negotiate your way out of a pair of run panty hose. And unfortunately for her, she cannot amass the wiliness needed to out-debate him. He's going to crush her; and Obama is going to crush the old man.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:01 PM
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11. That is from POLITICO, that has been dominating Yahoo News - Read up on Politico here:
From Salon:

<<So the President and CEO of The Politico, Frederick Ryan, is also the Board Chairman for the Reagan Library. And that makes sense, because Ryan is a long-time, hard-core Reaganite>>

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/05/04/politico_funding/index.html

If you all have time to read this Salon piece, it gives you the full brunt of Politico's ties to Bush, the Riggs Bank scandal, the Reagans, and more. It's a right wing "cesspool" according to Greenwald in another article. And yet, Yahoo and other media outlets treat it as though it's a balanced news source. Personally, I have now dumped Yahoo as my home page because I'm tired of their right wing BS on the front page.
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:04 PM
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13. I have lost all respect for Chuck Todd...
Mind, I never had much respect for Chuck Todd to begin with...


~Shiver
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:31 PM
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20. Never had respect for him ever.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:05 PM
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14. This so funny because it's the same slop that has been written for Junior
for years. There's nothing new about it.

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:26 PM
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17. It was boilerplate and nothing more.
Kind of like the Astrological thing in the newspaper.

One size fits all.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:40 PM
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24. Bush boilerplate written by Matt Scully, Junior's speechwriter.
That's where the smirkiness came from.

:hi:
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:10 PM
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15. Surprised? Obviously, they failed to check facts, and caved to pressure they were asking questions.
The MSM is scared to actually investigate. They're afraid of any kind of heat, and so basically back off if Republicans complain too much.

The RNC knows this. THey know if they yell "liberal media" and bias, loud enough, the MSM will simply retreat.

Perfect example here. Not really surprised. Disgusted? Yes. Surprised? No.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:30 PM
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18. Where was Chuck Todd in 2000? He is a Miami native.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:31 PM
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19. yawn..
she didn't even write that pap.
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:36 PM
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22. You mean the one she didn't write? The one that was no better or substantive
than your average speech, but said lots of baseless bullshit that the base wanted to hear?

What a victory, she's the new color commentator on Faux News! Only with an actual job with the government. It's like a regular commentator, only with actual propaganda.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:44 PM
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25. As I predicted.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:48 PM
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26. "fiery"
they misspelled "lying"
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:55 PM
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29. " Sound and fury signifying nothing"
Words written by a rightwing hack.
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pettypace Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:33 PM
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32. If you take off your blinders
You'll soon realize Todd is spot on with Palin being their Obama.

Just a little intellectual honesty is needed.

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