For All Of The Nader Haters This Might Make You Feel Better

[maseman]

I found this online from the Federal Elections Commission. State by state deadlines for independent candidates filing to be on the ballot for the general election. (primary is also on this .PDF.)

Unless I am missing something in the state of Ohio 8/21 was the deadline. As of today Ralph Nader's name was not on the Ohio ballot list for the general election.

Am I right on this or am I missing something?

Here's the link to all states. http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2008pdates.pdf

[MrModerate]

1. When the history of the Bush administration is totted up . . .

One fact will be unmistakable: Without Nader, there would have been no Bush.

Unforgivable; never to be forgotten.

[maseman]

2. Right on. I agree.

My point is at this point I don't see any indication that Nader will be ont he ballot. I saw Barr's name on there but not Nader.

[MrModerate]

8. I love seeing Barr there . . . n/t

[The Stranger]

3. We would have had Republican Neocon Warmonger Lieberman instead.

Cut the knee jerk bullshit hatred for Nader. He's a Progressive and always has been, and he didn't cast those votes for himself -- the PEOPLE VOTING DID.

[sellitman]

4. We would of had Gore.

Nader has harmed Progressives everywhere and yet you still feel a need to protect his sorry ass. Amazing!

[The Stranger]

12. Gore had a running mate, in case you didn't know, who now wants to run for the GOP.

And, in case you didn't know, the Right and the GOP are the problem with this country -- not the Progressives.

Oh, and "Amazing!"

[Franks Wild Years]

5. He wouldn't accept donations from wealthy GOP donors if he were "progressive" (nt)

[The Stranger]

11. Yeah, someone posted on here a figure of how much GOP money he had accepted.

As it turns out, a whopping fucking four percent of all of his money came from "GOP Donors." It rendered the statement that he "courts" the GOP to be essentially nothing but a lie.

[msallied]

7. He's a lying piece of shit troublemaker, and you are without facts.

Frankly, if you want "change" in the party structure of this country, you need to start from the bottom and work your way up to the national level. You don't splinter and spoil the electorate for national elections, which have the often undesired effect of landing criminals in office, as the last 8 years have shown us.

[The Stranger]

10. The ad hominem attacks are what lack facts.

The fact of the matter is that Nader complained that many of the Democrats would end up behaving just like Republicans once they were elected. And judging from the way the Demcoratic Speaker of the House has covered for war crimes and prevented impeachment for the last two years -- after promising during her campaign to shake things up -- Nader certainly isn't that far off the mark.

Keep the arrows pointed outside the tent -- at the Republicans and the Right Wing. Stop attacking our own. Leave the Progressives alone.

[EFerrari]

6. Imho, they were going to steal it one way or the other.

There was no way they'd let Gore win.

And in a venue as corrupt as Florida, the difference wouldn't have been a problem.

[MrModerate]

9. My thought is that -- especially all the way back in 2000 . . .

It had to be close to be stealable. If they'd had to snatch more than a fraction of the vote it just wouldn't have worked. Nader helped make it close enough to steal.

Of course Gore could have run a more scintillating campaign and the MSM could have not fallen in luuuuuuv with Georgie, but Nader was a major factor.