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Fri Sep-05-08 08:14 PM
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Why doesn't Obama smash Palin to bits? |
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Can't he just say she has taken lying to a new level--And then give the examples. I'm so tired of Democrats who won't get down in the mud where the game is being played.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:17 PM
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1. Because if he squashed Palin |
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he would be accused of insecticide.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:40 PM
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32. Yeah, rush limpbaughs would rantin' and ravin' |
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about insecticide next. :toast:
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:52 PM
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:17 PM
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2. He's not running against Palin. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:18 PM
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Every time I doubt them, they come back and pwn the rethugs and the media. The tide will shift again soon.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:33 PM
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22. I think it's coming... |
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I just watched 3 and change hours of cable news and all anybody talked about was that her reticence to answer questions makes her unvetted due to her absence of experience. If she remains so, then she's, by default position, assumed to be unqualified. That will be the baseline future-reporting of Palin will be founded upon.
The long knives are being unsheathed by the media...very soon it's going to be speak to the media on their terms or risk the 1000 small cuts of responsible journalism. The third estate has destroyed better individuals than Sarah Palin, waged war writ large against nobler figures.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:45 PM
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34. I am going to keep saying it - BO is going to |
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stay as far away from her as he possibly can.
She is a complete and total trainwreck on pretty much all levels:
Undeniably unqualified. Extreme positions. VERY spotty track record for what little governance she has. A lot of meaty ethical issus. A LOT, A LOT of smoke around her personally.
And, she is a COMPLETE unknown, who is being sheltered. IMO, McCain just does not have enough time to clear all the garbage and then let her psuedo hockey mom reformer image take hold.
IMO, BO's best tact is to stay as clear as possible, let things unfold, so that there is a CLEAR disconnect between the reality and how McCain's camp is going to try to want to blame BOs camp for all baggage the moron brought to his ticket by bringing this freakshow on.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:53 PM
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Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 08:54 PM by Chan790
you'll note I said the media was going to get her...I don't think Obama wants to touch the topic of Palin with a 50 foot pole because he knows that she's goading the press to do it for him.
He gets to sit back and say nothing while the media cuts her down. His backlash against Palin is to remain above the fray.
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Fri Sep-05-08 09:07 PM
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44. If you don't hit them hard right away, the lies stick |
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did we learn nothing from the swiftboating of Kerry?
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:18 PM
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4. Because she is beneath him and must remain there |
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We're going to maintain the framing of this election, even if it costs a temporary blip in the polls.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:18 PM
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5. She Knows That Attacking A Woman Tends To Increase Her Favorability |
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Clinton tried very, very hard to goad Obama into an attack, but Obama was too smart for that.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:18 PM
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6. Thats why they lose elections they should win |
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Because they are scared to get in the mud. Palin has been throwing personal insults. How he sits back and ignores it is beyond me. My guess is he doesn't want to be seen as the 'Angry' Black Guy. We'll see if it works.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:19 PM
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7. All good things come in time... let the media dig out all the dirt for him.... |
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Then in one glorious moment he takes the stage with Hillary and Hillary does the smashing.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:19 PM
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8. Ya, me too. Apparently, the $ powers that be in the Obama campaign have |
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decided that the best course of action is to *ignore" "Sister Sarah." (sigh)
We'll see if they were right in the end...
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:19 PM
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Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 08:20 PM by Blue_In_AK
I want Democrats who fight, too, and don't make statements like this one from Ethan Berkowitz, Alaska's Democratic candidate for the House (Rahm Emanuel's candidate -- not mine -- in the primary).
Berkowitz Congratulates Governor Sarah Palin
ANCHORAGE, AK, AUGUST 29, 2008: Alaska Democratic Congressional nominee Ethan Berkowitz joins fellow Alaskans in congratulating Gov. Sarah Palin on having been selected as the Republican nominee for Vice President.
“This is an exciting day for Alaska,” said Berkowitz. “Governor Palin has made her name fighting corruption within her own party, and I was honored when she stepped across party lines and asked me to co-author her Ethics White Paper. I wish Governor Palin, her husband Todd, and their children, the best of luck as they embark on this journey.”
:puke: :puke: This makes me want to gag. I don't care if she is Alaska's governor, he doesn't need to fawn all over her like this.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:33 PM
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21. WHY would ANY Democrat wish Palin the BEST of luck? Obviously, that = defeating Obama! |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:19 PM
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10. Because she doesn't come apart in bits... |
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There's lots of ligaments and connective tissue.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:19 PM
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11. Obama is on top of it! |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:20 PM
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12. Timing. Let the media filter through the shit for us. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:21 PM
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13. Because his real opponent is McSAME and just going |
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after Palin makes it seems like he's running for the 2nd spot on the ticket instead of the 1st spot. Biden is the one who will take on Palin because they're the ones' running against each other. It lowers Obama to take on Palin in a head to head.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:31 PM
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17. I don't agree--If you got the facts, play smashmouth--before its's too late. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:27 PM
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14. It would validate her as his equal. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:29 PM
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15. You ever watch a cat catch a mouse? |
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He's got to play with Palin first
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:31 PM
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18. That's not his job... |
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It's Biden's job, it's his surrogate's jobs, and it's our job here, on blogs, and by word-of-mouth.
Obama has to remain respectable, so it's up to us to ruin that bitch's reputation and political career.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:33 PM
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20. Exactly So: It's Not His Job, It's Ours. |
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He's playing it just right. The rest of us need to get down in the trenches and kick some serious Repub ass.....
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:32 PM
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19. Wait tfor the debates. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:34 PM
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23. She has a sniveling nasal voice |
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I can't stand such people--male or female--and I make it a point not to associate with them.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:35 PM
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24. I have a couple speculative theories ... |
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(1) his campaign knows that the hype is too big to get on top of right now, and so won't start their public offensive until next week, possibly starting on the Sunday talk shows; (2) tortoise and hare... he's not worried about Palin, seeing the hype as a blip and knowing that it will subside.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:35 PM
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She only appeals to the fundies. She doesn't threaten Obama or Biden.
If Obama started sliding on the internal polls, they would swat her down a few notches.
When your opponent is hanging themselves, give them more rope.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:36 PM
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26. He's running against John McCain |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:36 PM
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27. You don't understand his strategy. |
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She can only keep attacking for so long. If he responds, it becomes a war of soundbites and people love that.
If she's the only one attacking, she burns out. So either she'll HAVE to go on talk shows and do real interviews, or people will get tired of it.
Meanwhile - he keeps slamming McCain (and her really, by extension), his real opponent.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:37 PM
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29. The media would love an anybody-Palin spat, which is why it must be denied them. |
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Make them talk about something of substance.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:37 PM
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30. IF the ticket ignores her she becomes as irrelevant as she truly is. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:37 PM
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31. Because it doesn't validate her "pitbull" "rock star" status |
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as proclaimed by herself and the MSM.
The MSM has everyone looking at McCain's new gimmick. And the media would love a mudfight. And neither Obama nor Hillary are going to give it to them.
Governor Mooseburgers has enough dirt that even if the MSM doesn't call her out on all of it, there's enough circulating in cyberspace and in print media to take the shine off the "Mom/Moose Hunter/Maverick" image they're trying to cultivate.
Obama and Biden's time is better spent focusing on the economic realities people are living firsthand. Let the blogs and the National Enquirer and the other pop mags do the work on the pitbull.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:41 PM
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33. Palin's not his enemy. McCain is the rival. He should leave Palin to Biden. n/t |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:46 PM
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35. HOW would you suggest he "smash her to bits"? |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:52 PM
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36. Bridge to nowhere for starters. AIaska Independence Party to |
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challenge her patriotism.
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:56 PM
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40. I agree, but Obama should be "smashing" McCain to bits first. Don't you agree? |
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McCain, with his non-stop warmongering, his inability to even recognize the Katrina disaster, his flip-flopping on matters of choice, his willingness to let his daughter be smeared by Rove, and then cozying up to Rove a mere two years later.
Obama needs to smash McCain to bits.
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Fri Sep-05-08 09:03 PM
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42. Get after both--Neither one of them should get away it. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 09:06 PM
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43. OK. I agree with you! |
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Fri Sep-05-08 08:58 PM
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41. The problem with that is the media would just report "Palin riles Obama" |
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That's exactly what the repubs want to do.
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Fri Sep-05-08 09:09 PM
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46. It shows he won't put up with nonsense--thats a good thing |
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Fri Sep-05-08 09:08 PM
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45. McCain, McCain, McCain, McCain...cut off the head of the snake. |
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Fri Sep-05-08 09:10 PM
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47. if he were to sink down to her level |
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you'd have every single wingnut screaming,"see, he's just another angry black man!!!" and they'll have a field day with that.
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Fri Sep-05-08 09:16 PM
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48. Obama doesn't need to lose it--just righteous indignation. |
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