The Lucille "Sambo" story has been confirmed!!

[ben_meyers]

None other than Mike Malloy just reported it on his show and he sounds like he practically knows Lucille and has no doubts about her voracity. This will finally drive a stake thru Palins heart.

[oldtime dfl_er]

1. Can you enlighten us

I don't know this story?

[whistle]

38. Upon learning of Obama beating Hillary in the Democratic primary

...Sarah Palin was heard to say "So Sambo beat the bitch."

[helderheid]

47. NO FUCKING WAY Hope it was documented.

[pnwmom]

83. Supposedly a waitress named Lucille, who didn't want her last name

given, reported that Palin made this statement in a loud voice in the middle of a restaurant.

The waitress was part aboriginal and she was offended -- but not surprised -- by it. She implied that this kind of racist language is very common among whites in Alaska.

[jbnow]

85. The original story was in this post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6952478
that went to this article
Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean”
that included this excerpt

by Charley James –

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.
According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.

“It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole.
Then, almost with a sigh, she added, “But that’s just Alaska.”

The background helps

[kwolf68]

2. doubt it

Because a Liberal radio talk show host knows someone who allegedly said this?

Had George Allen's maccaca not been ON TAPE, it wouldn't have made a hill of shit to anyone, even if all 200 people there in attendance said he said it.

The ONLY WAY this type of story gets legs is only if it is recorded in some way. Without that, this wont go anywhere.

[melody]

9. If the person involved is willing to be interviewed, that's as good as a recording

If Mike has verified it, I believe it. He's a first class radio journalist.

[kwolf68]

20. Possibly yes

I still doubt this goes anywhere.

Even if she gets interviewed by all the majors they'll just say the media is picking on the women and playing the race card, it'll be swept under the rug, and it's back to business.

[melody]

26. It will stick in the back of their minds with everything else when they go into voting booth n/t

[krkaufman]

58. Absent other info, it would likely be ignored/discarded ...

... but with Palin such an accusation may carry more weight if it fits within the growing "vindictive" narrative. The narrative has to be built.

[melody]

76. It's the same as the information absorption with a jury

It's not one piece of information but a bunch of them. This will be one of them but others will be their conscious
reasons for not voting for McCain.

[jhrobbins]

82. I agree - I think perhaps her downfall will not be one big thing, but

the obvious conflation of all of her 'challenges'.

[Booster]

42. And people are forgetting that most of McCain/Palin supporters

would approve of what she said.

[tbyg52]

72. Or at least not care. nt

[POAS]

73. My thought exactly

It will cement her credentials with the insane racist base!

[LooseWilly]

86. Obviously, yes- but

the ones that approve aren't the only ones that stirring up this information will expose it to. It's the ones that don't approve.. and the ones that aren't sure if they approve, that the information might be relevant for.

Of course, if any of those that approve slip up in their defense of the comments... that's always amusing too...

[davepc]

34. I can give somebody off the street 500 bucks and have them claim somebody said anything

Tape of *PALIN* saying it, or it might as well of not happened.

[melody]

41. And if you interview a real person, the person is sitting there

Interviews are equally strong.

[K8-EEE]

46. Too much like the Freepers and Michelle's "Whitey" tape

I need more than hearsay. Either LOTS of people confirming it or an actual tape of it.

[sfwriter]

55. Show me a second source...

This needs one of the five people she was with to confirm it, then you have the basis for newspaper confirmation. Otherwise, it is just a rumor.

[melody]

77. Of course it does

I'm a writer. To run with a story, one needs a minimum of two and preferably more sources.

[JBoy]

56. I agree. You need the video or audio, then have it go viral.

[bleever]

3. I hope you mean "veracity".

Confirmation on this story would be good.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Voracity? Is Lucille really hungry?

OTOH, if her veracity can be confirmed, well, now it's getting interesting.

[QC]

51. LOL! n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

68. Maybe she'll go to Sambo's...

[Kittycat]

5. I doubt it

She'll get on the stage, make up another smartass lie about Obama, and the press will fall all over it. End of story.

[mcctatas]

6. Just because she's hungry I'm supposed to believe her?

:evilgrin:









thinking you meant veracity;)

[ruggerson]

7. Yeah, that Mike Malloy

credibility at its finest

[melody]

11. You sound disappointed that it was confirmed n/t

[ruggerson]

18. really?

I thought I sounded like I believed Mike Malloy is as reliable as Bill O'.

[melody]

21. You cannot compare Malloy to BillO

He's very reactionary, I'll grant you, but he's much better at clearing stories than BillO. In fact, I don't think
BillO clears them at all.

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[anigbrowl]

74. Talk radio =/= real news. sorry.

I can see you're a fan of Malloy and all, but his impact outside of his fanbase is marginal. I pay about as much attention to him as I do to Art Bell.

[melody]

78. I've listened to Malloy about five times in my life

There's a difference between knowing someone's information intake process and being a "fan".

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

8. More metastasis than confirmation, but it's something

[iamjoy]

10. It Won't Matter

I doubt it will make any more difference than McSame allegedly calling Cindy a...well, using a very vulgar term for a part of the female anatomy.

Unless it is on tape (and even then) most people won't believe it or care. Scratch that, the people who believe it and/or care weren't going to vote for her anyway (before this)

[Quixote1818]

24. I agree. nt

[woo me with science]

12. Look up the word "confirmed."

Sorry, this isn't it.

[anneboleyn]

13. I agree with an earlier poster who said that hearsay will not propel this story. No audio, no story.

It's a she said/she said situation and Palin supporters will just spin it as a made-up anecdote designed to denigrate Palin.

[KittyWampus]

14. how fucking stupid can DU get? Malloy?

[melody]

23. Malloy has a grossly unfair reputation for lack of credibility

Most of it advanced by his competitors.

Malloy screws up but every journalist does.

[WeDidIt]

25. MAlloy screws up often and badly. n/t

[melody]

27. When he quotes other sources, yes. But to say he "confirmed" something, he has.

He is said to have confirmed the LA Progressive story.

BTW, every journalist (with a few exceptions, Keith O being one of them) screws up regularly. You just don't tally their
successes and failures.

[ampad]

28. Examples?

Seriously, I have listened to Mike off and on since the first stolen election. I know I have missed some of his shows but I have yet to hear him mess up "badly". What am I missing here?

[melody]

31. He has quoted a couple of stories that were demonstrably false but no more so than anyone else

Some on DU have this "pound him into the ground" Alpha primate attitude toward Mike. I usually ignore it
but I won't see him be passed over as if he's BillO.

[ampad]

36. Mike Malloy is no

Bill O'reilly. Every time I have heard him make a mistake he is quick to come back and say he screwed up. I agree with you there, he is no Bill O'reilly.

[vaberella]

62. I couldn't agree more. Plus, he's insufferable to listen too. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. Context?

More info please.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

16. When you have it on tape, let me know.

Otherwise it didn't happen, at least as far the public is concerned. These unvalidated stories with no evidence only feed McCaribouBarbies meme about the unfair press.

[WeDidIt]

17. Mike Malloy is not famous for his credibility

Sorry.

Get back to me when you ahve audio of her saying it.

[Caribou Barbie]

29. all we need is her to come forward and say it

Then Palin can refute it, we'll call her a liar, she can threaten to sue, and then we get her under oath and we can ask all kinds of things. Fuck it, take the fight to her! We need this waitress to go on the record and now!

[enough already]

32. Damn right

We need to stop acting like fucking sheep

[WeDidIt]

39. Not enough

Come back when you have a tape.

[Caribou Barbie]

40. keep setting standards like that

and we will never catch them... the truth doesn't matter if we can get people to believe it!

[melody]

45. Frankly, I think that's the whole point n/t

[bleever]

71. "...the truth doesn't matter if we can get people to believe it!"

Can you elaborate on that? Thanks.

[eridani]

75. "Macaca" shot down George Allen because it was on tape!

I don't have a problem doing viral rumor spreading, but I'm not a journalist either. We don't go aboveground with this unless it was recorded, period.

[progressivebydesign]

22. Thank you!! I'm not sure why so many "democrats" were so unwilling to hear it.

The article was from an established, and respected writer, with many sources for his article. It was surreal to see people passing it off as a "rumor"

[OneGrassRoot]

35. Now I know why I stopped interacting here long ago....lol

'Tis a great site to get information, but the discourse makes my blood pressure rise as much as the blatant racism all around that so many want swept under the carpet for the sake of "strategy."

Oy.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

57. It's not that I don't believe it. I do. It just that the public won't unless it's irrefutable.

Without the evidence to back it up it's just a rumor that can be shot down.

[Phredicles]

65. I think a lot of it is just people not wanting to get their hopes up too much;

my gut tells me it's true. But we've have 8 years to see where going with your gut gets you. I'd rather see more solid evidence before running with something like this.

Not that I mind hearing other people talking about it, not at all.:evilgrin:

[RichardUK]

30. Voracity?

Confused about this. Voracity means to eat a lot.

[HughMoran]

37. Lucille is a very hungry individual

:rofl:

[QC]

54. She works too much to sit down & have a good meal. n/t

[melody]

44. Everyone knew what they meant. Everyone makes typographical errors. Even you n/t

[ashling]

33. Don't you know that waitresses are as unreliable

as community organizers? :sarcasm:

[CakeGrrl]

43. Fair's fair...let cyberspace do its work while Obama/Biden stick to the issues

Mooseburgers made her first impression in front of nearly 40 million people, and it wasn't a good one outside of her base; stories like this won't be as hard to believe.

[Chloroplast]

49. Thank you!!

I'm so tired of the holy rollers and their 'we'll look like fools! waaahhh!' attitude. Edwards and Clinton were accused of affairs; they lied and the truth came out. McCain swore up and down that he wasn't involved in the Keating 5 scandal: lie. Palin calls herself a reformer because she was against the 'Bridge to Nowhere': lie. If this story isn't true, the truth will come out, Palin can sue and the journalist that wrote the piece will have a reputation in tatters. Until then, I think it's fair game.

[krkaufman]

48. No offense intended, but a Malloy "confirmation" isn't going to catapult the story into the MSM.

And if Lucille is a friend of Malloy, a Lefty radio host, it will make it less credible, if anything.

[Sebastian Doyle]

50. Some people here aren't very subtle in their hatred of a talk radio host who speaks the truth

Why is that?

[invictus]

52. K&R

[rufus dog]

53. I disagree Ben

I just was driving home and heard Mike start to go into it and his opening comment was along he line of 'from what I hear...' He was talking about the ebay/jet for the 10 minutes I was driving home and then went into this story. I had read about it already and was home so I turned the car off. If he was so sure about it wouldn't he had made it the top story. Also he was very matter of fact when he announced the Lucille story, unusually calm. If he had the goods on her I think he would have been in his normal highly agitated state.

[ben_meyers]

59. So you didn't hear him, but yet I'm wrong?

I know what I heard, and if you can't believe Mike, who can you trust? For cripes sake his wife even posts here, doesn't that mean anything?

[kestrel91316]

61. Ben, I don't they are getting your sarcasm.

I still think you'd be happier elsewhere. I'm surprised you haven't had a pizza tossed your way.

[rufus dog]

79. Maybe Mayberry in post 64 clears it up.

I agree, Mike was talking about it. I still disagree that he 'confirmed' it. Fully admitting that I turned the radio off after his lead in to the story, the reason being, Mike's presentation at the beginning.

I think she is likely a racist piece of shit, hates gays, liberals, French, New Yorkers, Californians, on and on, but until there is proof the story has no legs.

[McCamy Taylor]

60. They need other CREDIBLE witnesses---like a minister--who overheard it,

[vaberella]

63. Let's go one step further and say it was her relatives, the husband's side.

I would rather a tape or a video.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

64. I don't think "confirmed" means what you think it means.

[onenote]

66. repeated does not mean confirmed

He repeated the story but he hasn't provided anything approaching confirmation that it actuallyl happened. At most he "confirmed" that Lucille the waitnress with no name says it happened, which was never in doubt in the first place.

[madrchsod]

67. needs to be fully "vetted" before i`ll believe it...but.....

god i hope it`s true. sometimes mike goes a bit overboard

[Zomby Woof]

69. Mike Malloy??

:eyes:

[Catherine Vincent]

70. I wouldn't be surprised if she picks up more supporters because of that quote. nt

[book_worm]

80. unfortunatley unless you have audio of her saying it, this will not gain traction.

[Tarheel_Dem]

87. I agree. And strategically speaking, does this really help Obama?

I mean a whisper campaign may have repercussions for "unintended" victims. The McCain campaign has already accused Obama once, falsely, of playing the race card. I can just see the GOP talking heads accusing Obama of orchestrating a whisper campaign against Palin. These things need to be verified by more than one source.

[samuraiguppy]

81. I knew she

was a racist I just knew it. Do you think they will dump her now--and lose huge--or keep her and lose huge--it really is a no win for them either way...

[No Elephants]

84. Even in Dixie, not many public officials would name their business "redneck."

[brentspeak]

88. Rumor repeated on the Malloy show = "confirmed"?? n/t