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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:10 PM
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Haven't You Had Enough Of "Bizarro" World?
I swear I don't understand what goes through peoples minds.
Just when you think you see the light at the end of the tunnel, "BAM" we enter "Bizarro World".
Up is down. Left is right. Intelligence is bad. Judgement is reckless. Science is heresy. Good is evil.
What has the average American morphed into? Why are they so easily swayed be shiny objects? More importantly, why do they continue to vote against their own best interests?
I swear I just want to puke everytime I turn on the TV and see some talking head pontificating about McCain's new rockstar.
In my best caveman voice,"Rockstar now good - before rockstar bad". This is right in line with "Bizarro World" thinking.
Wasn't it just a few moons ago that being a rockstar was akin to killing babies? What happened?
Well I'm pretty sure what happened is quite Rovian. Nobody in recent history has been able to create the right atmosphere for "Bizarro World" better than Karl Rove.
He is the master at turning things upside down. He understands that these Stepford pod people will sell their souls for the shiny objects, just like the Indians when they gave up most of the US for a couple of baubles.
We have seen this happen for the last few elections, but seem to have no answer for it. You would think by know after seeing this movie already, that we would understand the plot and be able to change the ending. But like Charlie Brown we keep falling for the football being yanked away from us in Van Peltian fashion.
Maybe I'm wrong, but unless the shoe drops on an Alaskan scandal, history says we might be in trouble.
I have had a lot of faith in Obama. I just don't have a lot of faith in middle America.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:20 PM
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1. I know most Americans are nice people
But, like sheep they don't read and it may not be their fault. The biggest decision they care to make is what tattoo to get. Republicans have deliberately turned off Americans from having any interest in politics. And those that try to stay informed are met with distortions that rival a Black Hole event horizon shit storm of lies, propaganda, distortions and over-emphasis of trivial distractions.

Why on this green Earth is this race even close?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:23 PM
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2. They don't read and think...

..and it is their fault.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:26 PM
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3. It's close part and parcel because of
the dumbing down of America.

Being smart means you're an "elitest"

It's just like Idiocracy, he talks like a fag.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:35 PM
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6. Idiocracy is the future of America
My hillbilly (sorry, Mountain Man) friend from the Appalachians once told me the one thing Americans are really good at is "white trash culture". I think he was right, and we're exporting that culture around the world in the form of Coke, McDonalds, Walmart, and Disneyland. Along with it, is that we as a people seem to place a high value on ignorance and stupidity, and a low value on smarts or wisdom. A few people seem to understand this (Chris Rock, Matt Groening among the famous), but too many of us seem to feel that somehow America will pull through despite the glorification of mediocrity and stupidity.

Not only do we revel in white trash culture, we're inflicting it on the rest of the world, which still maintains some respect for its intellectuals and thinkers. The age of Idiocracy is upon us.

What was that Mencken quotation about Americans finally electing a moron to the Presidency, and being overjoyed? We did, we elected Reagan, and we've been sliding downhill ever since.

I have bad feelings about the election in November.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:39 PM
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7. The most prophetic movie
I have seen in many a year is Idiocracy.

It sure is stupid, but it's insight is biting and ironic.

If we aren't in it yet, we at least have our toe in the water.
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mass independent Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:47 PM
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8. Interesting that you'd mention Idiocracy
I was watching the RNC the other evening. My wife had already fallen asleep. She wakes up during Sarah Whatsherface's speech and says, "what's that screechy noise and does it have to stay on". So I reach over and hit the last channel button, the tv flips back to a movie channel and Idiocracy is on. I went right from Ms. (almost) Alaska to "Unaware of what year it was, Joe wandered the streets desperate for help. But the English language had deteriorated into a hybrid of hillbilly, valleygirl, inner-city slang and various grunts. Joe was able to understand them, but when he spoke in an ordinary voice he sounded pompous and faggy to them". The juxtaposition stopped my heart for a moment. A true story even. BTW - Republicans are certainly down with one of my other favorite lines from the film...."I like money!" The stupidity in the deliver doesn't translate well to the written word but it is what makes it so damn funny.

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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:36 AM
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19. Hi mass independent
Welcome to DU!:hi:

I'm with your wife on "that screechy noise." That speech the other night hurt my ears and I don't mean that figuratively. My ears throbbed for a good hour after the speech. I can't believe more people aren't talking about her horrible, nasally voice. Maybe I just have really sensitive ears.

Anyway...welcome again!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:30 PM
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4. I know how you feel

This is the American voting public's big chance

to reject all this Rovian shit.

I hope they turn out in droves to do it.

The majority of the MSM wants a MCbush Presidency.

and I think a majority of Americans want an Obama Presidency.

Obama has to battle MCbush and most of the MSM for the next 60

days.

Yes We Can !
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:33 PM
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5. I've spent 20 years trying to convince youth group kids that unwanted teen pregnancies
are a bad thing. WTF was I thinking?!!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:48 PM
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9. The thing is; mainstream America is NOT like them!
but the MSM is trying to convince us otherwise.

If mainstream America were full of insane right wingers, pop culture would be very different:

The top pop band would be "Jars of clay"

"Sex in the city" would instead be "becoming a good helpmeat" (sp?)

The Animal Planet channel would instead be the Dead Animal Channel

The "Left Behind" series would have been more popular than Harry Potter

"Will & Grace" would have never made it to a second episode. Instead, "Blue Collar TV" would be enjoying it's tenth Emmy winning season

NASCAR would be bigger than the Superbowl AND the Olympics

The Discovery channel would be far less popular than those Christian evangelical networks


Nope, it's all a lie. The repugs have 55 million members while we have 72 million and growing. There are more of us, we just need to get as noisy and obnoxious as they are.



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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:54 PM
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11. Yes that's all true, but
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 10:55 PM by chitty
they would have most people believe that they need to vote their way because it is the American way.
We are out side the mainstream, we are "far" left. Crazies. Even though most people would agree with most of our points of view.

Hence - Bizarro World.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:15 AM
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17. I honestly don't believe that "most" people believe that crap
if they did, the GOP wouldn't need to steal elections.
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karmaqueen Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:52 PM
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10. I agree...
You put into words exactly how I feel. I get so sad when I hear good people being mocked by these idiots. You are so right when you say that "Rock Star" crap is beyond belief. I know that if these liars win, I give up trying to understand what half our population is thinking.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:17 PM
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12. Rove wanted Romney
but I agree with everything else you and others on this thread have said.

Look, the last 40 years tells us we only win presidential elections when things are really bad. We've won after Watergate and after the worst recession in the last 20 years. The one exception was Bill Clinton's re-election in 1996, when things were good and he got credit for it. In every other election, the Republicans have won using a variation of the same theme; we're the sneering, un-American, unmanly, out-of-touch elites and they're the wholesome, upstanding, muscular, patriotic everymen. And Americans, white Americans, buy it, even when it goes against their rational, material interests.

The Republicans are the masters of the asymmetrical political attack; they take our perceived strength, our ability to use government to make peoples lives a little bit better and use it against us, by portraying us as arrogant elitists whose desire to help people is a form of condescension.

Will it work again? I think things are sufficiently bad for just enough Americans to put some thought into their vote this year. I also think we have an excellent ticket. It's beyond maddening that this is the best we can hope for, but Americans are what they are, a politically unserious nation with only a passing interest in public life.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:39 PM
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13. Why would Rove want Romney?
He would never have energized the Fundies, just alienated them.

McCain is just not that smart. He never could have forseen Palin's super nova status.

It took more savvy than McCain has for this choice.

It also took someone who knew they could deal with the baggage.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 PM
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14. Rove is on the outside of this campaign; McCain hates his guts for what he did in 2000
If you need more reassurance, Rove said McCain's speech last night "wasn't all that great."

Rove does not have magical powers. If you read the rest of my post, you'd realize that. We've been losing for 40 years, since Karl was in grade school. Time we understood that and stopped glorifying Mr. Potato Head.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:50 PM
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15. Well I agree that he doesn't have magical
powers, but he understands how to run a republican presidential campaign.

I think old Karl has his fingers in there somewhere.

We have been losing for 40 years, Mr Rove had to have a mentor at sometime.

As I recall I saw a video clip of a young Rove working on Nixon's campaign.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:02 AM
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16. True...he even has a little cameo in Perlstein's book, Nixonland
The guy is smart, but it's still bascially the same playbook we have faced for many, many years. I knew McCain would go there, just didn't know exactly how. I don't think he is done being cynical, either. In the past two days, we seen racially inflammatory comments from elected officals in Georgia and Iowa. When Palin started saying "John S. McCain" the other night, I thought that was a set-up to start using Obama's middle name. Hasn't happened yet, but there's still plenty of time.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:16 AM
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18. I often wonder if it's 'most' Americans. Or just the media feeding us bullshit.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:53 AM
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21. Me, too. n/t
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:50 AM
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20. MC Lame is no "rockstar" He had plenty of empty seats at the Excel Center.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 12:53 AM by Tigress DEM
This at facility that can hold about 20,000 depending on configuration. (Minus 3,000 seats removed for construction of TV live shot platforms.)


http://www.xcelenergycenter.com/uploads/assets/presskit/RNC%20By%20The%20Numbers.pdf



AND let's see almost a PACKED house of 84,000 at the DNC. McBlunder isn't even an opening act much less a rockstar.


OH YEAH, almost forgot. When Obama was AT the Excel Energy Center to announce his acceptance as the party's presumptive nominee, he had 15,000 inside and 13,000 in the halls surrounding.... 38,000 and not even a full on convention.


Keep dreaming Jon BoMic Anchovy



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