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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:35 AM
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Keep Your Eye On The Ball : Fight John McCain. IGNORE Sarah Palin
We are allowing the subject to be changed, and that is what the opposition is counting on.

Not This Time, Good Citizens!!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:38 AM
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1. YUP...he is the FOCUS......the main prize.....pure ambition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj2pmBW1Xb0&feature=related

watch him admit it...the ambition part....
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:40 AM
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2. He needs to be hammered for his outright lies and hypocrisy. Palin is merely a diversionary tactic
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:45 AM
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3. You are correct....
and the whole thing is surreal. The Republicans have sunk to a new low..(if that's possible). The verbal attacks by Rudy the Ghoul, Hockerbee and Thompson were pathetic. I think people in America are finally getting pissed. I notice they are calling out the MSM on their McCain cheer leading.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:06 AM
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4. ABSOLUTELY!!!!
The GOP wants to make it all about her.

Need to focus on mccain and his weak stand on important issues.


There are so many ridiculous posts here over the past week - trying to smear her - and with absolutely no substance. Just like the GOP was planning.

The focus has to get back to mccain - and take her out of the equation.
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:11 AM
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5. It is CHICKENSUIT time...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:13 AM
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6. Amazing how little Democrats ever learn
We've been handed a dozen issues- and a dozen character questions about BOTH McCain and the fundie extremists and yet people actually insist that we ignore them.

Wow.
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ghurley Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:18 AM
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7. No, it matters... The pick of Sara Palin shows John McCains Judgement...
So the lack of vetting shows how he makes reckless decisions.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:52 AM
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13. The issue is McCain. Don't mention Palin's name. THAT is the point
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:20 AM
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8. *Every* single scandal of Palin's points out the fact that McCain
has horrible judgment and that he lied about the vetting process.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:29 AM
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9. Nope. THAT is bad thinking. She must be shown for what she is.
HUGE mistake to follow your path.

You fail to understand that it is important to limit the impact of her.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:08 AM
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10. But it's more fun to go after Palin. McCain is an old, boring guy with terrible policy positions.
Palin is much younger, more attractive, and has a lot of juicy personal scandals (or issues if you prefer) that are much more fun to talk about than McCain's position on the war or his cluelessness when it comes to the economy. (I know you're probably going to say that McCain is more dangerous because he will be the president and CIC, while she will have the impact on public policy that Dan Quayle had.)

It is much more fun to write for the DU Enquirer than for the DU Policy Quarterly. ;)
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:49 AM
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11. Disclaimer : Posted at 4 a.m. -ish while jacked up on Nyquil and Vicodin...
after watching a rerun of Larry King live w/ Arianna Huffington... :rofl:





:wtf:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:51 AM
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12. whoever controls the narrative wins.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:54 AM
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14. I disagree...
Barak and Biden should keep their eyes on McCain.

Obama's surrogates should be working Palin like a body bag. Fact is that the Republican Party is divided among the traditional small-government, low-tax conservatives and the lunatic fringe of American Protestantism. If we can keep punching away on the extremist views of Sarah Palin and the fact that there's a 30% chance of her becoming President, we can keep the Republicans divided through Election Day.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:06 AM
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17. I think I panicked after watching Arianna Huffington advocating the same strategy on LKL.
It is so alarming to see the glowing coverage of this nutjob who is so unsuitable for this position.

Sarah Palin disgusts and infuriates me, and I want to see her 'outed' for what she truly is...


I am just not entirely sure what I had in mind when I made the OP, which is both amusing and scary..the idea of these two winning is getting to me I guess.

Yikes.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:58 AM
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15. K & R
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:00 AM
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16. It isn't an either/or dichotomy, we should be working both McCain and Caribou Barbie over
McCain because he is the actual nominee for president, Palin because she is an extreme RW fundie nutcase and can be shown up in a horribly bad light. McCain's choice of Palin is an extension of his judgment and values, and the worse she is, the worse it makes McCain look. We should not only be going after Palin, but also after McCain AND Palin as a reflection of McCain. Get people out in front of the media pointing out why the McCain camp won't let her do interviews or pressers. Hammer home her many skeletons, bring to light just how far out there her "values" are.

This isn't an either/or dichotomy, we can, and should, hammer both sides of the 'Pug ticket. Anything else is playing into the 'Pugs hands.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:30 AM
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18. No Shit...I concur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBq1UYA--pA&feature=related

This clip is McSame sayin his drive for the prize is ambition...never mind the Patriotism stuff...pure ambition...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:39 AM
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19. Hellloooooooo. We are not fighting anyone here. We are posting on a message board.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:41 AM
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20. Agree...Stay on message! n/t
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:42 AM
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21. Go after Republicans in general
They are the party of No Ideas. Make McCain into just another Republican, part of the cadre that has been screwing the country over for eight years.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:58 AM
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22. That is a mistake
McCain will very likely not last his term, which means that essentially she is running for President as well. If we ignore Sarah Palin now, we lose the precious opportunity to uncover all of her skeletons before the election. While she may be a shiny distraction away from McCain right now, we need to hammer home the idea of her as President, because while some people may not mind her as VP, they may be absolutely frightened picturing her as President. There is also an added bonus to this approach. I can't imagine McCain liking being upstaged by her. The more attention that is paid to her, the more he will be marginalized, and I don't think his ego would like that at all, which will make him more prone to making mistakes.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:14 PM
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23. I agree. Except on policy issues where Palin=McCain=Dubya, IGNORE Sarah Palin
IMO she's a distraction, designed to draw Democrats away from the McCain=Dubya theme of a winning campaign that Obama mapped out and has followed even from before the Republicans had settled on any particular clone of Dubya on policy issues.

IMO Palin is "bait" tossed out by the Rove students who've taken over McCain's campaign. Democrats swallow the bait by attacking Palin on "experience", "qualifications", "ideology"--and all the other non-policy "issues" the Rs are pushing. By swallowing the bait, IMO simply empower the Rs to derail Obama's issues-based campaign, by using political ju-jitsu, deflecting attacks on Palin into non-policy attacks on Obama. Whenever Democrats point a finger at Palin on something other than a policy issue, there may be three fingers pointing back at Obama for Rs to exploit.

In particular, IMO, whenever Democrats attack Palin on "experience", they invite no-win comparisons of Palin's experience with Obama's. As soon as Democrats start playing that game, they have lost it, no matter how surreal the Rs' arguments for Palin, and no matter how sound Democrats' arguments for Obama.

But if Democrats insist that Mccain-Bush policy positions on taxes, energy, healthcare, foreclosures, education, job training, etc. be compaired FAIRLY with Obama's, with all republican lies fact-checked and exposed, IMO Democrats will with the White House in November.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:16 PM
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24. Palin may well be a white supremacist, and if so, this reflects on McCain
Polls show her with 50-percent approval, largely on the basis that people only know about her what they have been spoon fed by the corporate media.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:17 PM
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25. Palin's our line of attack on McCain.
Seriously, she's fucking Christmas for Obama and Biden.

We attack Palin, we discredit her, which is amazingly easy, considering the huge number of scandals that have been found on her already, and not only do we sink her, but we press the point that McCain showed incredibly poor judgment by choosing her without vetting her, and McCain is dragged down with her.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:22 PM
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26. Sorry, but I've got a $50 bet with a co-worker that Palin will
"seriously damage" McCain's campaign. I could use the money!
:evilgrin:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:25 PM
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27. I agree. They did that effectively in 2004. They are trying...
...the same tricks in 2008. NOT THIS TIME. I am awake, and I REFUSE.:patriot:
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