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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:54 AM
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Does Anybody Else Feel They Can Relate To Obama Bashers, Now That Palin Has Entered The Race?
It's funny how I used to wonder how anybody could actually believe all the smears and lies that were being spread about Obama in the beginning,and now I find myself almost interested in reading the National Enquirer and buying into the stuff they're writing about Palin. Everytime I come on this site I'm waiting for the other shoe to fall off the Palin candidacy just like Obama haters wait for the Rezko stuff to bring down Obama.

I see Palin as dangerous for our country because of her inexperience and radical views just like others have seen Obama over the past 18 months. It's crazy how similar i've become to those people i've always considered nutty consipiracy theorists or even sometimes racists. Because of her positions on the issues, her controlling attitude, and redneck sensibilities I feel like this is the last person that should be in the white house, just as conservatives fear Obama because of his associations, past positions, and urban/city sensibilities. The parallels between Obama and Palin's candidacy are uncanny and really put liberals against conservatives in a way i've never seen before.

Her church scares the shit out of me just like Trinity keeps conservatives awake at night. Her evangelical beliefs give me the creeps the way black liberation theology gives conservatives anxiety attacks. Her ability to give a good speech doesn't convince me in any way she knows jack, just as conservatives think Obama is an empty suit. Her being from Alaska makes me feel that she's out of touch with other americans, like conservatives think Obama is out of touch because he's from Hawaii and spent time in Indonesia. I worry that she won't lookout for minorities they way some whites worry Obama will only lookout for minorities. At the end of the day I wonder how anybody could support this extremist, the same way other wonder how Obama has so many supporters.

So now I have to ask myself if I still think those people are crazy, or am I just as crazy? Either way, I definitely feel like I can relate to Obama bashers now, and in a way I never thought I would.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:00 AM
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1. No. nt
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:03 AM
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2. telling the truth about Palin is not bashing her.
the other side is telling lies about Obama, and you know it.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:09 AM
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6. Ofcourse they're spreading lies, but we've probably spread a few of our own as well.
I think for the most part we've been getting the truth out, but some of these stories like "Sambo beat the bitch" really hasn't been verified and we have no proof that it actually occured.

We're not as bad as they are, but we get a little nutty at times as well, in my opinion.

I think we should be spreading her radical views around more than all these other stories that we can't back up with any real evidence. We shouldn't become what the Obama bashers have been and continue to be.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:04 AM
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3. Getting the truth out on an unvetted candidate who nobody but McCain chose is not bashing.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:08 AM
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4. Point well taken, and I agree. The biggest difference I see, while recognizing
I also have a biased view, is that very few people are pleased with the status quo and want to see the current RW direction needs to change. McNuts really does sound like he will continue on the same path we are now on, and even the media said Palin is way to the right of McNuts! I understand why the Ext. RW love Palin the same as Kucinich has a lot of supporters on the left. MOST Americans are afraid of what they view as radical change, which is why I don't think Palin will be able to gain & hold on to any broad support. The Ext. RW will continue to LOVE HER so McNuts will get their vote, but as more & more comes out about her wanting to make all abortions ILLEGAL, and pushing that old story of All Jews are going to hell because they don't embrace Jesus, he will lose any Dem support he MIGHT have had, and lose most of the Indi's too!
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:16 AM
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8. To an extent I think it's out job to get this stuff out there since she won't do interviews...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 11:17 AM by malik flavors
but if we put out too much crap the stuff that actually legit might get lost in the muck as just more lies.

We need to keep spreading this stuff, but persoanlly I will just be telling people about he out-of-the-mainstream views. That's really all I think people need to hear about. Once they know she doesn't believe in global warming and tried to censor the libraries in her town they'll be pretty turned of by that stuff alone.

But I agree she isn't in anyway change or a reformer, and people need to know it. Her earmarks, support for the bridge to nowhere, leaving a town of 5000 20 mil. in debt...

How can she balance our budget, as McCain says he wants to do, if she couldn't even balance the budget of Wasilla, Alaska? A town with a population of less than my high school...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:08 AM
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5. No.
The conservatives are the ones who are crazy.

Quaylin wants creationism in the schools. That is a real position of hers. Obama does not stand for socialism. That's a lie and exaggeration the conservatives make up.

Quaylin's positions on the issues shows she won't look out for minorities. The concept that Obama would only lookout for minorities is not his position - it is a made up fear of the conservatives.

The right wants to be in power, so they make things up, things they think will scare the voters. 911 isn't working any more. So they're making up some new shit. It's their SOP.



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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:23 AM
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9. I agree with your points here.
Palin was against the hate crimes bill, so that shows to some degree she isn't lookng out for minorities, while Obama hasn't done anything to show he isn't on the side of whites. To the contrary he's done as much for them as anyone else.

But there have been a few Palin stories that seems silly to me. The affairs, the baby cover up, the sambo story. I have a hard time buying into those until I see some serious evidence.

Troopergate on the other hand I believe has legs, as long as the republicans don't somehow keep it from going forward.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:09 AM
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7. They are the crazy ones
We love Obama for many reasons, but the primary one for me is his proven competence. He managed to beat the Clintons, who had every advantage, with better organization. It took years of hard work for Obama to get where he is now. He's proven himself.

Palin OTOH was picked out of a hat by McCain barely over a week ago and 30% of the country fell instantly in love with her because she was "just like them"! And she hasn't even talked with the press yet.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:26 AM
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10. Nope.
Because their fears of Obama are based in racist paranoia, not reality. Our fears of Palin are very firmly based in reality.

They fear black liberation theology because they know nothing about it. We fear dominionist theology because we DO know something about it.

They say he's an ampty suit, when he is a constitutional scholar with years of public service. She got her degree from 2nd rate colleges in journalism and her accomplishments are being a small town mayor and 20 month governor of the third smallest state in the US. He represented more people as a state senator than she governed as Governor of Alaska.

The parallels you are trying to draw are purely cosmetic. And irrelevant, as he is not running against her, but against her boss.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:35 AM
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11. Speak for yourself
You may think you have a problem peddling in smears and lies, but I try not to do that. There are legitimate questions about Palin's record, and it's not a smear or a lie to discuss those on DU.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:46 AM
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12. Uh, I never said it was. And, ofcourse their are legit questions, I said as much in my opening.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:43 PM
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13. the journalist, Charley James, who wrote that article
http://thepoliticalcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/

seems pretty genuine to me. all i know is what i read, of course.
but he seems to have done his research.
AND...he does have people in the article that WERE willing to let him use their full name.
So read the article(s) if you haven't already. Then think again.



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