**** Official Keith and Obama thread countdown**

[Ichingcarpenter]

That is all, turn your TV on to push up his ratings also

[Ichingcarpenter]

1. He's gonna go over her church and Rachel will be on too

[DainBramaged]

2. KO IS ON TONIGHT GREAT START

[Coexist]

3. Cool! Its gonna' be a great three hours

Hardball was good, and now the next two shows!

[eleny]

4. He's hitting them all...

The church, the bridge, the jet and even the cook.

I feel better already.

[DainBramaged]

5. SUPER JUST SUPER!!!!!!!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. The Cook?

I missed that one.

He's going over the bridge to nowhere and the lie it is.

[OneGrassRoot]

24. I missed the whole friggin cook-gate, too! Sooooo many! n/t

[seabeyond]

35. i thought i had gotten them all. didnt hear anything about a cook??? n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. Obama is on right now!!!

[blondeatlast]

10. "Who's he going to tell (ex-lobbyist NMcCain campainers). nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. Obama going over McCain's lobbyist ties and hypocrisy and lies

Now going over the earmarks for her town.

[bdamomma]

8. watching keith now.

rachel following.

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. Thanks, Obama looks great

nice tie.

[geekgrrl]

9. Why can't Obama just say it is a LIE?

What is everyone's problem with using the term LIE?? LIAR??

[blondeatlast]

12. He just did--did you miss it? nt

[geekgrrl]

18. I did not hear Obama say that. Keith said it, nt

[DainBramaged]

13. Here it comes, KO is broaching it

[geekgrrl]

16. seriously-- why dance around the word "lie"? Is it off limits?

At least say "not the truth". Jeez!

[Doremus]

17. Done. Check new ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBtbG5xjFBY

[elkston]

29. I don't understand this either. There's gotta be some larger plan.

[Coexist]

15. LLLLLLLLLLLlliar!

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. Here is the cartoon Obama mentioned

[Coexist]

69. oh thank you!

[abbiehoff]

19. KO just said what I was in the midst of writing.

Why can't he just call them liars.
Why does he have to say their facts are wrong, or their comments are inaccurate, or they're not telling the truth.
The truth is that they're liars.

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. Now going over Fannie Mae and the trillions of debt

[book_worm]

22. Keith suggesting to BO that he start running a Harry Truman type "give 'em hell" campaign

I think he's right.

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Surrogates can do that not Obama

But hard hitting damn right!

[babylonsister]

34. We want the surrogates! We want the surrogates! Where are they? nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

43. Obama laughs and says Palin will surely be on his show soon

sorry ...... I didn't answer your question.

[mzmolly]

53. As do I. Keith quoted Truman "How many times do you have to be hit over the head

to figure out who's hitting you over the head?" I think Obama should use that line.

[Gregorian]

25. A little bit of regulation actually helps the economy.

Obama is a genius.

He's framing the issues people. And doing it on everyone's terms.

[eleny]

26. Obama is talking too much detail

I can hear eyes rolling back in heads.

And this "to be fair" shit has got to stop. Give them an inch, Barack, and they'll shove a yardstick up your ass.

agh.

[Ichingcarpenter]

27. Keith going over more the interview later next up .... the rapture

speaking in tongues and her church

[babylonsister]

30. Maybe a thinking national audience needs detail; no low-info voter

is watching KO anyway. If they are, maybe they're learning something. I like detail.

[seabeyond]

38. i just am NOT going to embrace dumbing down. at all. ever. i refuse. that would be

like saying become the repugs in all their lies, dishonesty and corruption cause they do it adn win. no.

[babylonsister]

39. I'm not either!

:toast:

[eleny]

65. Being clever and sharp doesn't equal dumbing down

This is a campaign not a lecture hall.

[seabeyond]

71. i did not listen so i cannot comment. but this is not the first time it has been suggested

dumbing down.

and really, as important as an election and who would be fixing this shit,.... sit and listen. all of what 15 fuckin minutes. kerry had a friggin 20 minute speech that covered iraq, small business, education and health insurance. oh the roar we heard cause it was dry, boring.... 20 friggin minutes and could nto listen to what he was proposing. how fuckin lazy are we. we get what we deserved. it was incredible the reaction to a friggin 20 minutes chalk full of excellent info

i DONT think it is asking too much, to be a responsible voter.

i expect, demand more from my kids.... and one is just 10

[Born_A_Truman]

66. I agree and I'm weary of all the "get nasty Obama" posts

If I wanted nasty I would switch parties. Enough!!!

[eleny]

79. He doesn't have to get nasty. he needs tosharpen and shorten the message

I'm frustrated tonight and I caucused for him plus support the campaign and am volunteering as well. I won't sit back and cheer when I see the campaign walking into the fan blades of the Republican machine.

[eleny]

46. Obama already has the thinkers, sis

Btw, he keeps saying that he has faith in the American people. I don't share that faith.

This interview is frustrating me and I had to turn it off. I'll check back later.

[elkston]

61. Yeah, no more fairness to the Repubs, even if its true. (eom)

[vaberella]

28. "Pray away THE GAY?!" WTF?!

I have heard craziness from that church but "pray away the gay?"

[Ichingcarpenter]

33. Yep..... I do that for all my gay friends myself

then I travel back in time to the time of the bible and the jesus dinosaurs
and ask Moses and Jesus to help.

It works every time.

[Gregorian]

31. A little bit of regulation actually helps the economy.

Obama is a genius.

He's framing the issues people. And doing it on everyone's terms.

[writes3000]

32. I agree with Keith. Obama needs some righteous indignation. The question is when.

You can only go to that well so often.

But Obama should and will go there. He must.

[DainBramaged]

36. I've been saying it here for WEEKS and keep getting shouted down by 'disruptor's'

but I am still here and say the same thing, GET FUCKING MAD BARACK.

[Ichingcarpenter]

37. Going over the uppity comment

with Obama

[nc4bo]

40. I'm so happy to see Obama on Countdown! nt

[Gregorian]

41. Obama knows that being a good example wins.

[GrizzlyMan]

44. Actually, it doesn't win

It didn't work in 2000 and it didn't work in 2004. Being nasty wins.

[Gregorian]

74. Except that Obama is exceptional.

And we did win in 2000 and 2004.

I ordinarily don't talk about examples. But Obama is in another league altogether.

One thing that I forgot to say. We've pretty much only had old white men. Now we have someone of a very different composition and consciousness. This is the big difference. Because he operates in a way that we aren't used to. I predict he's going to sweep many republicans into his camp.

[spanone]

42. obama is sooo cooool

[Muttocracy]

45. thanks for this thread

no TV and limited internet the next few days but with this I won't be left behind :)

[Ichingcarpenter]

48. No problem... tomorrow will be the rest of the interview

Obama is so calm and cool.

Keith is gonna go over Palin's religion soon.

[babylonsister]

49. OMG, JoeIsOneOfUs,

don't get left behind! :scared: ;)

[Muttocracy]

52. everything moves so fast - if you're off for DU for more than a couple hours

you can't even get the jokes anymore!

[geekgrrl]

47. why won't Obama say that she doesn't have the experience? We need clear soundbites!

It isn't about dumbing stuff down, it is about pounding in a great one liner that people remember, and then repeating it and repeating.

THEY ARE LIARS.

SHE HAS NO EXPERIENCE.

[GrizzlyMan]

50. I don't get it either

The high road doesn't work in today's day and age. That's sad, but it's a loser every time.

[DainBramaged]

51. I think letting the ads speak for him till the debates is fine

If he is uncomfortable playing their game, let his surrogates do it. I just wish he'd just let his hair down once and give 'em hell.

[GrizzlyMan]

55. That's all I want

Like Joe did this weekend "The silence was defeaning!" that kind of thing. He's on the cusp, he was talking about them making stuff up today. That's good...just take it a step further and start calling them liars.

[Parker CA]

56. 'The problem with the Republican VP nominee is...'

'that she's a liar! Alot.'

KO is laying it down.

[Ichingcarpenter]

58. I Made the point ..... Obama is letting Keith do the name calling

because everyone is tuning in to the show.

[JerseygirlCT]

60. Because that's not where we want this fight.

She's the nominee; it's done as far as that goes.

Do we want to have the next 2 months be one long comparison of Obama's experience to Palin's while the real issues are completely ignored? I'm pretty sure the McCain campaign would be happy with that.

What does matter is what she says. And what she says has and will continue to expose her for an ignorant liar. We don't have to get into "is she experienced enough" - talking about the issues will show that she's not, pretty resoundingly. It will also show who is ready to go, right now.

[Ichingcarpenter]

54. KO just called her a major liar ...... you want bet he gets slammed for this?

Keith is the surrogate!............ GET IT? ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?

[OneGrassRoot]

77. Yep, yep. :) n/t

[livedemocarticordie]

57. start fighting--for real--the time is ticking

Well I watched it and all I have to say is I adore Obama and Joe but Joe did the same thing on Meet the Press which I also watched --the whole gentleman, cool customer, above it all routine. That would be great if they had a vibrant vocal day in and day out surrogate attack corps but they do not!!! Where are our attack dogs, where?? I just found the Keith interview boring and almost pale/weak. zzzz.

[RepublicanElephant]

59. just saw this on the front page of yahoo...

Today's Top Searches
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[Ichingcarpenter]

62. Keith is going over all her lies and calling them lies

Obama just left......

[Muttocracy]

67. now that is really interesting - somehow people heard about Obama being on his show?

If it was about the MSNBC intrigue, Chris Matthews would be on it too.

[flamingdem]

63. If Obama did get rightgeous ... predictions on how the MSM would play that?

Say if he said, they are lying... or other blunt statements...

What would happen?

[Ichingcarpenter]

64. That's my point.... Chris Hayes of the Nation is going over the lies.

[OneGrassRoot]

68. I say he's providing brilliant CONTRAST...

Sure, I'd love to see him blast them with everything...call them every name in the book they rightly deserve.

But, he's started the message of "they must think you're stupid," so he is "believing in the American voter" as contrast.

Palin was nasty and it turned off some independents; him being nasty would thrill the shit out of us but probably wouldn't get new votes.

IMHO

[Ichingcarpenter]

70. World Worst Billo

for stalking a prize winning reporter

[ellie]

72. Jesus, she is a fucking loon.

I mean a real, certifiable loon.

On edit:
Superwoman Sarah is the loon. Just in case no one is watching KO. He just showed a clip of her talking to a graduating class at her church.

[bdamomma]

75. yup she is and an extension of bushie.

rapture these loonies now please, and leave us alone.

[Ichingcarpenter]

76. When this gets out and it just came out today

at noon.......... just wait!

[Ichingcarpenter]

73. Going over the church tapes now

Totally ripping it apart.....

[Ichingcarpenter]

78. Rachel starts now anyone want to make a new thread?

[liberal1973]

80. LoL...

That stupid republican ad that Keith played was too funny. :rofl:

I'm waiting for King Kong to come smashing through it.