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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:36 PM
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I grew up in a Catholic Church and Parochial School and they said:
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 10:38 PM by Breeze54
"Judge not let ye be judged"

"Love one another"

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Homily for the Twenty-second Sunday in Ordinary Time

http://concordpastor.blogspot.com/2008/08/do-not-conform-yourselves-to-this-age.html

Jeremiah 20 : 7-9
Romans 12 : 1-2
Matthew 16 : 21-27

This is a difficult weekend for preachers.
Not only because of the hard sayings in today’s scripture,
but also because of the contemporary cultural context
in which we hear them.

Over the past week the presidential and vice-presidential candidates
have promised us more in the next four years
than Jesus promises us in eternity:
- lower taxes, money in our bank accounts
- the cure for all diseases
- justice and equality for all
- and world peace!

By contrast, if Jesus were running for president:
his platform would be - the Cross.
And he wouldn’t be promising to take it away from us.
Instead, he’d be inviting us to pick it up, and carry it
and while we’re carrying it,
to take care not to conform ourselves to the culture around us.

Instead, he would invite us to a renewal of our minds,
so that we can see more clearly what is good, true, just
- and pleasing to God.

If this sounds like a hard line – it’s because it is a hard line.
- and not one we necessarily want to hear.
Peter didn’t want to hear it.
When Jesus spoke to him about the Cross,
Peter pulled him aside and told him,
“Hey! Ease up on that stuff: it’s not what people want to hear!”

Jeremiah didn’t want to hear it either.
The people of his time had forgotten God,
conforming themselves to the culture and its idols.
Jeremiah, a faithful prophet, railed against this.
And his reward?
He became an object of derision, mockery and scorn.
And so he cries out,
“You duped me, Lord! And I let myself be duped!”

Sometimes we’re react like Jeremiah and Peter.
We expect that in return for being faithful,
good things and good times will come our way,
and when they don’t, we might feel duped by God –
or at least confused and disappointed.

Jesus himself might have laid claim to such feelings.
He faithfully preached the kingdom of his Father’s mercy –
and what was his reward? The Cross.

It’s amazing that we who claim to want to follow Christ are surprised
when the path we walk turns out to be the way of the Cross.

Our attention will be captured for the next two months by the election
and the decisions we, as voters, will be making.
Today’s scriptures might prompt a few questions…

- How do I walk the path of Christ,
faithful to the truth of the Cross,
as I make our way towards November 4th?

- As I study social issues and concerns facing the nation and the world,
how have I been conformed to this age and its morality?
Do I have a solid grasp of what is truly good?
What cultural realities have seduced me?
How might my heart and mind be in need of renewal?

- As I listen to opposing parties and candidates arguing for my support,
how do I discern the truth in what I hear and read?
How do I discern between what is false and what is true?
Do I know what’s pleasing to God? And if I do –
what difference does that make in my political choices?

- Even the money in my pockets reminds me that We Trust in God.
How will my trust in God shape my decisions on November 4th?

If you read in any of the above some hint of who I'll vote for,
please let me know - because I don't know yet myself!

The only platform I'm pushing here is the platform of the Cross.
The Cross is the platform of God’s truth and we are called,
each of us, to live by that truth.

We began our prayer this morning by tracing on ourselves
the sign of the Cross,
marking our bodies as offerings for spiritual worship.
God’s word is proclaimed at the foot of the Cross
and its shadow hovers over the table of Eucharist.
May our Communion we share in this bread and cup
be food for the renewal of our minds and hearts
that our choices and decisions might be good and pleasing
in the eyes of God.

-ConcordPastor
Posted by ConcordPastor at 12:00 PM


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:48 PM
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3. I don't agree that it is now, completely ...
"the church of child rape." Yes, it's happened
but I don't think all of the priests are at fault.

"This is a difficult weekend for preachers.
Not only because of the hard sayings in today’s scripture,
but also because of the contemporary cultural context
in which we hear them."
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:53 PM
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7. I agree with you. I don't go to church anymore, but this characterization is self-serving bigotry.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:56 PM
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8. Especially when protestant Preachers have been arrested in the same numbers.
It permeates all religious sects!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:48 PM
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4. None of our priests and nuns ever said anything like that. In fact, they said the opposite.
Any person who lived his or her life according to the principles taught by Jesus, whether they ever heard of Jesus or not, but Lived as much as they were capable a Christ-like life, they too would be in heaven.

That WAS the 60s though and it seems to be the general opinion, though not my opinion, that the 60s were screwed up.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:04 PM
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10. There has always been the doctrine of "baptism of desire."
That is, anyone who WOULD have accepted God's grace had they been given the opportunity would also be saved. And also the "Harrowing of Hell," when Christ descends to the dead and offers them salvation. All of which is to say that the offer of reconciliation is eternal and doesn't end at death.

So many of these seeming contradictions and hypocrisies are really addressed in church doctrine, but the church doesn't do a very good job of teaching all this.

For me, it is all mythhology; but a profound and beautiful mythology that points to valid truths.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:51 AM
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12. To me Everything about it is translated into common physical realities, ordinary concrete truths. No
superstitions. Here and now.

For example, from what I've heard about Iraq, it seems pretty obvious why the nuns always used to say blasphemy is the most dangerous sin.

And YES! "the church doesn't do a very good job of teaching all of this."
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:50 PM
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5. AAAAAAAAAAAAAA MMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNN
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:43 PM
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2. We were also cautioned against speaking for God, blasphemy, and told, when we became young adults,
that each of us must decide right and wrong for ourselves and accept the consequences, good or bad, on our own souls, that there is no quid pro quo and even Jesus's next to last words were "Father, why have you forsaken me?"
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:52 PM
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6. the presidential and vice-presidential candidates have promised us more in the next four years than
"... the presidential and vice-presidential candidates have promised
us more in the next four years than Jesus promises us in eternity:.."

I hear :sarcasm: !!! :P

I'd agree with that and the Catholic Church taught me the same.

BE SKEPTICAL!!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:58 PM
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9. Funny, I don't hear promises to DO it for us. I hear promises to work on it WITH us.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:14 PM
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11. I hear him saying "Follow your heart"....
"To thine own self, be true."

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:53 AM
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13. Yes, and IF you're REALLY true to "thine own self" you'll find that
to a large degree self = others.
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