McCain Now Winning Majority of Independents (6 pt bounce)

[glancingthefuture]

umm.. not good. as we are going after these Independents also.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/110137/McCain-Now-Winning-Majority-Independents.aspx


September 9, 2008
McCain Now Winning Majority of Independents
Majority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%



by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

[Wapsie B]

1. Tracking polls.

nuff said.

[BeyondGeography]

2. ...

[Lost-in-FL]

3. Every independent I know was a Republican...

that left the party because of bush so yes, the will tend to vote for McSame cause of Palin.

[Politicub]

48. Same here

I tend to think independents are republicans who want attention - but they couch it in "doing their research."

[tblue]

4. He's peaking. Please stand by. Hurricane Sarah is being downgraded to a tropical depression.

[VolcanoJen]

18. snort!!!

This post made me LOL!

Thank you. :-)

[nc4bo]

51. lol. Nice. nt

[mzmolly]

5. Nope. This is analysis of the Gallup "outlier" poll bounce.

Nothing more. :hi: Gallup had McSame ahead in the end of July as well. PIFF!

[writes3000]

6. Oh no! They got a convention bounce! It's not good! It's not good!

But other polls show his convention bounce is ebbing! But we shouldn't look at those! Just the ones that worry us!

Not good, folks! I'll find another poll to enhance our worry as soon as I can find it.

[tpi10d]

7. polling at the height of the mccain bounce n/t

[Solomon]

8. Here we go. First they tell us it's the white women, now they

tell us it's independents. Next they will be telling us it's democrats.

[melody]

9. Poor bad news trolls

They just don't understand the phrase "convention bounce".

[gateley]

10. I have a question --

how/where are these people getting the info that is making them switch?

We know it's usually only us who watch Obama's and Biden's speeches (probably the same for the hard core Reps), it's usually only us who tune into Keith (and now Rachel!).

So is it the news coverage about Palin that is bringing this ticket to their awareness, and the lack of news coverage for us?

Actually, we're probably the only ones who really pay attention to the news coverage, too.

I just don't get how/where people are getting their info that makes them lean in one direction or another.

Any input?

[Name removed]

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[Sugarcoated]

34. I don't think it would play out the same way that it is for the Repubs

Two minorities for the first time in our history, very likely would've been a very hard sell.

[gateley]

35. My argument against that is that although the DEMS would get behind

the ticket, Hillary's long-standing high negatives with Republicans would act as a lightening rod to bring out voters to vote AGAINST her.

What are your thoughts on that?

:popcorn:

[Name removed]

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[gateley]

53. I understand what you're saying, but

but what about my opinion that the high Rep Hillary negatives could energize people to come out to vote against her? Again, it's not us, it's THEM I'm worried about.

(I should note, that I've never understood the reasoning/logic behind the Reps intense negative attitude toward her, but it exists nonetheless, and I'm thinking strategically here.)

[Name removed]

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[MoonRiver]

49. "He would have been unbeatable with Clinton on the ticket."

Truer words were never spoken. Welcome to DU Believeit! :hi:

[Shine]

11. Not buyin' it.

:thumbsdown:

[Orsino]

55. The poll might tell us nothing more than that more and more Republicans...

...are afraid to identify as such.

[GrizzlyMan]

12. Every "indepedent" I've ever met has been a moron

Frankly, I have more respect for strident Republicans who support Bush and McCain with equal glee. At least they know what they want. At least they've taken a position. Anybody who hasn't taken a side in the last 8 years, whether that be Repuke or Dem, is someone who you will find cares more about American Idol and college football than they do about their country.

[DrDan]

45. you are sooooooo off-base

Independents are there because they have taken a position - and it is not in sync with the corporate driven parties.

Just because you live by party loyalties does not mean all progressives/liberals share them.

[GrizzlyMan]

56. Yeah, I've heard that song and dance before

And anyone who is "undecided" at this point would almost certainly not identify themselves as a progressive or liberal. Please, give me a fucking break.

[DrDan]

61. your articulate manner aside,

would you agree that anyone voting obama has blindly sold out to the Dems?????

Same boring, immature, mal-educated argument.

[alwysdrunk]

63. Screw that

I'm an independent and I'm proud to say so. Like being a staunch party member in a TWO FREAKING party system is something to be proud of. I have my own mind and nobody's "party platform" is going to tell me what to think.

[Dawgs]

13. Please quit with this shit.

Post-convention polls don't mean a damn thing.

[glancingthefuture]

14. We need to be aware of the good as well as the bad news.

[Bobbie Jo]

25. I've been watching your posts...it's not working.

[glancingthefuture]

28. So? Why bully me?

[Bobbie Jo]

33. Because I can't reach through this screen and kick your ass.

[symbolman]

40. Bwhahahahaha!!

I don't think you need any help so I'll just sit her and catch the head as it rolls by..

You made me LOL.. :)

[glancingthefuture]

41. More of the same. Have a good day. I am

tired of your insults.

[WI_DEM]

15. umm, thanks for your concern.

[glancingthefuture]

29. you are welcome. I hear Sen. Obama is good good in WI.

[Johnny Potpie]

16. YGTBKM.....

Fuck!!!:mad:

[Bobbie Jo]

17. Not buying it either...typical disinformation spewing OP

I've been watching this one.

[glancingthefuture]

22. Maybe the Poll is wrong? This is a discussion board.

[ClarkUSA]

19. Remember folks, the McCain campaign is offering prizes for trolling comments on Dem blogs...

Thanks for your concern, though.

[1corona4u]

20. IT'S BULLSHIT PEOPLE....

GOD, stop posting this trumped up poll shit.

[Zuiderelle]

21. umm.. *cough* bullshit *cough*

[victoryparty]

23. don't even fret about the polls yet...

...I wasn't excited when Obama was up by 7 or 8 and I'm not worried now... these things need time to play out. I would bet that things will be close to even again by this time next week, or possibly Obama & Biden will have the lead.

[victoryparty]

24. don't even fret about the polls yet...

...I wasn't excited when Obama was up by 7 or 8 and I'm not worried now... these things need time to play out. I would bet that things will be close to even again by this time next week, or possibly Obama & Biden will have the lead.

[victoryparty]

26. don't even fret about the polls yet...

...I wasn't excited when Obama was up by 7 or 8 and I'm not worried now... these things need time to play out. I would bet that things will be close to even again by this time next week, or possibly Obama & Biden will have the lead.

[Abacus]

27. Relax. McCain's been leading with 60% of independents since the start of the election season

Only recently, leading up to the Democratic convention, did it begin to turn in Obama's favor. These results are right in line with the previous ones: of decided independents, McCain gets 58% (52/(52+37)).

[Teaser]

30. Uh, have you seen conventions before

this is what happens after conventions. It happened after ours too.

[marlakay]

31. prove to me short timer you are on our side???? nt

[SoCalDem]

36. Wishywashies who cannot decide WHAT they are, will change their minds

3 or 4 times between now and Nov..

With as MUCH difference between the parties, as there is, I don't honestly see how ANYONE could call themselves independent these days.. I would like to see them NOT allowed to vote in primaries too.. Let them actually register one way of the other, and then participate in that party's primaries..

In general elections everyone gets the same ballot, so big f'n deal..take your ballot and vote for people from 4 different parties if you like.. there's nothing stopping you..

I am so sick of hearing about the wishywashy independents whose asses must be kissed hourly..These are people who are too lazy or too dumb to read up and decide what their own standards are.. They like the shiny objects and empty promises..shame on the rest of us for making them feel more important than they deserve to be.,.

Those Reagan democrats/independent were REPUBLICANS who were a bit ashamed to admit it..

[Doctor_J]

37. So an inexperienced, corrupt, ultra-right-wing nobody bumped them 6%

B-bye USA

[dennis4868]

42. It makes no sense...

even my parents who have been Dems forever are now going to vote for McCain because of Palin...oh, they love her story. WTF? What about the country? What about the never ending wars, millions of babies without health care, job losses, global warming, etc..? Oh, they just love her story!!!! WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT HER STORY...when people are dieing because they do not have health insurance or someone loses their job how in the hell is Palin's family story going to help that person/family? WTF is going on here?????

[EstimatedProphet]

38. Not buying it

[Hamlette]

39. check out fivethirtyeight.com to see why these polls are bunk

when they break it down, the sample size is too small to be significant.

know hope but send money...to Obama.

[DFW]

43. We got our bounce, he got his

Now, down to the real work

[moondust]

46. Baloney.

You don't veer sharply to the right (or to the left) and pick up a ton of independents as a result. It's ridiculous to think that that many voters would suddenly and en masse forget the past eight years of Republican disasters and sucker for any more of it.

[namahage]

47. Yeah. Because picking a perky RWer who was grossly unqualified...

...worked so well for the CBS Evening News. Sure, they were first when Katie started...for about a week. Where are they now?

[progressivebydesign]

50. Independents are ALWAYS traditionally republoican-leaning. nt/

[1corona4u]

52. Not for long...

I don't buy it anyway...

[Hawkeye-X]

57. Not anymore. Watch tomorrow's polls. McCain will start dropping like a fly.

Trust me on this...

And you shouldn't be trusting polls to tell you what Americans think. They've already made up their minds and they're ready to vote. Goddamn if we have to wait until November 4th.

Hawkeye-X

[Peacetrain]

58. What Hawkeye said

:thumbsup:

[americanstranger]

59. OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! OMG!!

Tacking poll. calm down.

- as

[A-Schwarzenegger]

60. That is the most beautiful short story I have ever heard

in the last fifteen seconds. :*

[terrya]

62. I call bullshit.

I don't buy this for a second.