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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:17 PM
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Obama must be an Ali fan, because he's working the Rope-A-Dope to perfection!
I know everyone's getting frustrated that Obama isn't "hitting back." At times, I have been as well. But remember, Obama and Biden are THE SMARTEST MOTHERFUCKERS IN THE ROOM! And Obama is working the smartest technique possible against an overly aggressive opponent: the Rope-a-dope.

I'm only 21, so I wasn't alive when Muhammad Ali met George Foreman for the Rumble in the Jungle. But, as a sports enthusiast, I've watched the fight, and Ali totally redefines boxing strategy in this fight. Foreman, before his current role as a grill shill, was known for his strength and knock-out power. He would simply overwhelm and crush anyone put in his way. If Ali tried to go punch for punch with George, he'd have been killed. So he came up with what he later coined the Rope-a-dope. Ali knew that if he tried to go for the kill early, he would get knocked on his ass. He also knew that he had 10 full rounds to work with. So when Foreman came out swinging, Ali covered up. Foreman kept swinging, again and again with all his might, but he couldn't get anything through. Sure, he did superficial damage to Ali's arms and sides, but he didn't make any significant damage. And all Ali did was absorb the hits. He occasionally threw back a punch if there was an opening, but he was content to let Foreman punch itself out. And as the rounds went on, Foreman got tired. He was running out of punches to throw. And in the 8th round, Foreman ran out of gas. And when he did, Ali knocked him out and won the championship.

Obama's confirmed himself to be an Ali fan in the past, and I think he's taking a page out of The Greatest' book. Obama knows that if he stands up, punch for punch with the Rethug machine, backed by the media and 527 smear campaigns, he's not likely to win the fight. But he also knows that the tide is with the Democrats this year. As long as he can avoid getting knocked out, he can take this fight the distance.

He also knows that the Republican ammunition is limited. The benefit of the long primary is that all of Obama's dirty laundry has been thrown out and absorbed months ago. Reverend Wright is a specter of the past, as is "bitter-gate." Ayers and Rezko didn't stick with Hillary and they won't stick for McCain. Obama has the issues on his side. He just has to avoid being dragged down in the muck.

McCain is throwing everything he can at Obama now. Celebrities, Paris Hilton, and sex ed classes are being taken in by people now instead of in late October. By the time that Election Day rolls around, as long as Obama has played it safe, the McCain camp will be out of ammo. And that's when Obama takes control.

The news cycles that matter are the ones closest to Election Day. Of course, if there's a major scandal or breakdown (See: Swiftboats), that cycle becomes unimportant. But Obama knows that. He knows that the Rethugs are going to run out of ammo on him, as long as he doesn't give them any more himself. Obama is holding back on his best shots for the final rounds, the ones that will resonate with the American people the most. That's why he hasn't been harsh on Palin's lies. That's why he hasn't called out McCain for his BS. And that's why I honestly believe he let the "7 homes" issue fade away. It will be a more powerful hit closer to Election Day than it will in late August and early September. Unlike the Rethugs, Obama won't overplay his hand. He'll play it cool, take an easy jab when it's presented to him, and save his big bombardment for when it matters.

After all, Obama hinted at this recently himself, when he said, "I didn't throw the first punch, but I will throw the last."

THE CHAMP IS HERE!
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:18 PM
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1. Nice Post! We are going to win this thing! n/t
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:26 PM
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2. Thank you for brightening my day.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:37 PM
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3. Wonderful post, K&R...n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:41 PM
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4. Funny, right below your post was "Obama needs to attack"
Before I replied to your thread.

Lol - perhaps he is doing OK if we can't decide if he should do one thing or the other. I think he needs to do both actually, depending on the venue. He also needs surrogates attacking for him.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:44 PM
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5. You forgot the best part of that story
After Foreman got through with his last fusillade of punches, and as he was standing there gasping for breath, Ali (who was still hurting pretty bad from the punishment) said, "Is that all you got, George? My GRANDMA hits harder than that!" Then he finished Foreman off.

Ali was at Obama's nomination acceptance speech. I'm sure that Obama knows that there's nothing like the Rope-a-Dope, if you've got the stuff to use it.

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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:55 PM
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6. Obama / Ali
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:31 PM
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9. Possibly my favorite Obama picture ever!
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:52 PM
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10. Me too. I think it will be an historic photo
that captures a mood, a moment in a time from the life of a great man. And every bit as iconic as the Ali picture on the wall behind him.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:56 PM
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7. I love that photo
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 07:57 PM by demwing
it deserves to be seen without comment
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:56 PM
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8. I hope you're right. If you're wrong, Obama loses
Let's all hope that Obama holding back as part of strategy.

If he's not, and he continues to hold back and we hit election day, Obama will go the way of Kerry.

I hope to God you are right.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:19 PM
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11. I was thinking the same thing just today. nt
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:22 PM
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12. Hey- I hope you're right, and Rock On for being so informed & motivated at 21!
It took me a half-dozen more years to get informed & pissed off enough to jump in the ring, so to speak.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:13 PM
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13. I'm not sure if this plays into the rope-a-dope strategy...
...but the pattern I see emerging is that Obama sits back, chills out and takes the attacks right up until they start to stick. Then he smacks them hard, they reel a bit, Barack kicks back and starts taking it again. He doesn't really worry until the polls start to show an effect. It's almost like he's fighting back just enough to keep the polls neck and neck.

Now, I assume that the final 2 weeks leading up to the election, he'll fucking unleash and McCain won't know what hit him.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:32 PM
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14. Agree. He has stated as much in interviews. For that reason they really should
know better. But all they can do is attack, for they have no new ideas to sell.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:51 AM
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15. One Reason for Some of the More Ridiculous Attacks
that McCain has made lately, like the "lipstick on a pig" accusation, is that this is the BEST McCain has right now.

Everything else is either beaten to death already or even stupider. Obama is giving McCain nothing to punch at. And it's showing. Obama, on the other hand, has tons of material for the weeks leading up to the campaign. And now after McCain has slung so much mud, he can unleash the 527s without looking bad himself. It will be great fun to watch.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:52 AM
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16. WHAT'S MY NAME, FOOL???
Obama!
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:56 AM
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17. I don't know anything about boxing...
but of course I've heard the phrase "rope-a-dope" before. Thanks for the great explanation!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:10 AM
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18. I hate to be a downer...
...but presidential elections aren't boxing matches.

For one thing, there's no "knock-out" in elections. Everything comes down to a scoring decision. And, if you fall behind far enough in the early rounds, you won't be able to win with a single punch early on.

To twist the analogy, if there weren't any knock-outs in boxing, Foreman would have been so far ahead on the judges' cards by the 8th round, all he would have had to do is hang on until the end of the fight to win overall. I hope that isn't what McCain will wind up doing.

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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:49 AM
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19. This is a great analogy, I've been thinking Obama's
doing something along these lines (although I was thinking more like a Poker player to McCain's Craps). I didn't know Obama was an Ali fan and had totally forgotten about how he fought... "floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee." :)

The thing most folks forget is that Americans tend to have rather short memories. When they go to the voting booth things have to be fresh in their minds and many independents won't make up their minds until the last minute. So if you know a bit about how things work and you only have so much $$ to spend... pissing it away a bit at a time over a long time makes less sense then saving it up for hard and heavy at the end.

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