If McCain and Palin win, this country has doomed itself

[MrScorpio]

I can't make it any simpler than that

[WCGreen]

1. Right into the shitter....

[FrenchieCat]

2. What about an upbeat thread.....

Like,

If Obama and Biden win, this country will have redeemed itself.


See the difference? :shrug:

One is inspiring and one smells like shit.

[MrScorpio]

9. Even for our side, fear is a great motivator

You know, if the Republicans had two candidates that weren't so batshit crazy, I wouldn't be as scared as I am now.

McCain and Palin are just a hop, skip and a jump from total annihilation

It's about survival this time

[WinkyDink]

41. I think we can take it, don't you?

[GoesTo11]

47. I think both statements are true

I see Obama as being one of the greatest presidents ever. Our country still has enough resources to turn things around, but it will be difficult.

I see McCain as strikingly not up to the challenges of our time, with his temper, his impulsiveness, his Party First orientation and his fairly simple mind. And if he goes, Palin would take a wrecking ball to all that is good and all that is left of value in this country, through bumbling, bluster and bible.

[Obamarulz11]

3. If McCain-Palin win

We might move to Jamaica. No Kidding.

[ContinentalOp]

4. You're wrong.

If they win, this country has doomed all of mankind.

[bushmeister0]

19. I agree!

The entire world is relying on some knuckle draggers in a few swing states to decided their fate.

Anyone hear this today?

NPR's ATC interviewed 13 Pennsylvania voters: All the whites said they'd vote for McSame, all the blacks said they'd vote for Obama.

Very depressing.

One white woman said she couldn't trust Obama cuz we was a Muslim.

He was a Muslim until he died, she said, "killed," I guess, implying he'd blow himself up or something. Creepy.

We're totally doomed.

[vaberella]

26. I know you're right but I need some hope. Maybe we SHOULD all invest on an island. n/t

[stuntcat]

33. yup

x(

[Zombie2]

5. We're thinking Canada...

...we'll swing thru Alaska first, of course. No kidding!

[ContinentalOp]

25. Canada?

That ain't gonna save you from "nukeular" war with Russia!

[vaberella]

27. Fuckin' Hell...that stupid woman did declare war with Russia?! Shit. n/t

[melody]

6. No problem -- Obama and Biden will win and win big

Every sign ahead is a good one.

Incidentally, this country is her people ... it will never be doomed so long as we're around.

[gateley]

7. Yup.

[cliffordu]

8. I'll be just north of the Mexican border on the night of the election:

If they win, I'm gone on my bicycle to Belize...

I paid my dues almost 39 years ago; paid in full.

[MrScorpio]

11. I'd rather head to Costa Rica

Nobody is scared of Costa Rica

[cliffordu]

15. Well, That's doable, too. I'll be the big dumb guy on the Xtracycle cargo bike...

[1corona4u]

10. Shit, we're circling the drain right now....

I just don't understand how people don't see that? I of course mean the republicans. You'd think if nothing else, they'd like to save their own skin, but apparently, they are willing to be the sacrificial lambs to support their party. Like they say, stupid is, as stupid does.

[samuraiguppy]

12. it's not gonna happen

I have a really good feeling this time

[MrScorpio]

13. It better not

This time, it's about survival

[FightingIrish]

14. At risk of sounding like Sarah Palin, God help us.

The clips I saw of her "coming out" interview showed a very ordinary person, in no way prepared for the extraordinary office she seeks. Even the responses she had obviously prepared in advance were beyond lame. She tried to disarm the frighteningly stupid remark she made about the Iraq war being a mission from God by quoting Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln’s quote about hoping that we are on the side of God was a humble admission that we may not always be right. Hers was dogmatic certitude about a war that was a criminal act done in our name.

Tonight I realized that in putting her on his ticket, John McCain has insulted us all.

[nomaco-10]

16. If this turns out to be another stolen election...

and these two idiots take over this country, we're finished.

I can not do this again. The theft of 2000, watching the media take Dean down in 04, had pretty much done me in. I saw something bright and hopeful in Obama and so here I am again. If the dottering old warmonger and the brown shirt bitch take over this country, I'm out of the process forever.

No, I'm not leaving the country, I'm not going that route. I've got deep roots in my community and an elderly mother that will need looking after soon. I will only participate in certain charity works and animal rights activities.

[girl gone mad]

17. For the 3rd time in a row. n/t

[TheKentuckian]

18. We must win

because there will be no where to run, if we don't.

Running won't save you, the world has become too small for flight. There is only one other option and it's not much better.

We must take them down.

[amborin]

20. LAKOFF LAKOFF LAKOFF LAKOFF

THE CAMPAIGN MUST HIRE LAKOFF

[eshfemme]

21. Pretty much.

If there should be a McCain-Palin victory, those anti-intellectual Republicans will know just how much damage a "brain drain" really is.

I really just can not understand the hypocrisy of these people. They enjoy the advantages of the work and efforts of those who believe in science, intelligence and liberalism yet spit upon those very institutions. It's just absurd.

[Koeln]

22. exactly

I am from germany and watching and reading about palin is absolutely scary and i am so happy to life in a country where even the conservatives are moderate and i do not know what to say about palin.

We would be in war with russia from day one if georgia joins Nato and according to the nato treaty if the regional problems with the minorities within Georgia are not solved before.

What a headline US (and NATO) soldiers die to defend Stalins strange regional border policy. Someone has to tell these republicans that black and white are not the only col lours on this planet

How can anybody believe this person is qualified for this job . I am born in a country with russian troops in the eastern parts. John i wait for your call i am ready to lead from day one. I am a man but i can wear women clothes and lipstick is no problem (just a question of payment). I was born in a small town ( OK i life in a big city now). The problems are where i come from we do not teach absency shame on us and our kids become less pregnant. Abortion is no topip and the last time we baned books and burned them is quite a while ago and my last visit in a church was more or less a tourist thing and the biggest problem i am an expert on economic and fiscal issues. I think that the biggest burden to become a republican candidate.

[Pachamama]

30. Willkommen Koeln!

:hi:

Es ist wirklich sehr gefaehrlich was hier in Amerika passiert....Ich sehe es sehr klar und habe auch sehr viel angst.

Wenn McCain/Palin gewinnt, dann wird meine Familie zureuck nach Deutschland gehen...Interessant weil meine Familie Deutschland verlassen hat wegen ahnliche Zeite in 1939 passierte.

Country First - (Amerika) Ueber Alles

:scared:

[Koeln]

31. Wow

Dein Deutsch ist wirklich richtig gut und es ist ja keine einfache Sprache.


Mein problem ist ich verstehe diese Menschen (Republikaner) einfach nicht und ich verstehe nicht wie nach acht Jahren Bush die Wahl so knapp sein kann.

WEnn man konservative amerikanische Internetseiten besucht und die Aussagen dort liest dann fragt man sich wie kann so etwas passieren wie können Menschen so einen Blödsinn glauben und dieser christliche Fundamentalismus die Intoleranz gegenüber allem was anders ist z.B. schwule (gay people).

Deutschland ist bestimmt kein Paradies aber wenn ich mir das durchlese und die Politik in den USA unter den Republikanern anschaue bin ich wirklich glücklich im liberalen Deutschland zu leben wo über 80% der Konservativen Obama wählen würden.

[Pachamama]

35. Danke....

:hi:

Meine Familie ist Deutsch....leider kann ich mein Deutsch nicht sehr oft ueben....

Ich kann die Republikaner auch nicht verstehen und auch wie nach acht Jahren von die Wahnsinn von Bush, das die Wahl so knapp sein kann....oder wie bloed die Amerikanische volk sein kann.

Wie koennen Menschen so Blind sein? Das frage ich mir taeglich...Aber die Wahrheit liegt mehr in das Amerika ist wie ein 16 jaehrige. Sie dennkt Sie weiss alles wenn in Wirklichkeit Sie hat viel zu lernen.

Nein, Deutschland ist nicht Paradies....aber Deutschland und die Deutsche Volk hat gelernt was passiert wenn mann solchen Wahnsinn volgt....Amerikaner haben nicht gelernt und leider, wie ein Alkoholiker, Sie werden nur lernen wenn dinge so schlimm sind und es tut sehr, sehr weh....Ich dachte das die letzte 8 Jahren haben weh genug gewessen. Leider nicht. Leider sieht es aus als ob die Amerikanische Zukunft (und leider die Welt von diese "Ausser Kontrolle Teenager") muss viel Schmerz haben um die Lehre zu haben.

Ich habe in meinen Herzen gehoffnet das mit Obama Amerika konnte erwecken, lernen und aufwachsen. Ich fuerchte meine Herz wird brechen....und die Herzen der Welt.

[Koeln]

38. Obama

mit Obama verbindet man auch hier in Deutschland sehr große Hoffnungen.

ich war in Berlin bei seiner Rede, weil ich gerade auf einem Kongress dort war und es war wirklich beeindruckend.

Ich denke die meisten Deutschen würden einfach gerne Amerika wieder lieben können weil wir Amerika und den Amerikanern letztlich sehr dankbar sind was sie für uns getan haben und Obama würde uns einfach wieder das gute Amerika zurückgeben an das wir geglaubt haben und da swir wieder zurück haben wollen.

Es war die letzten acht jahre leider nicht möglich und wird mit jedem jahr schwieriger.

[Pachamama]

40. Let me translate something you just said for DUers who don't speak German because I think it is so

important for all to understand how not just Germans, but how many Americans and most of the world feels:

"...Most Germans want to love America again because we are still so thankful to America and Americans for what they did for us and Obama would bring that good America back, the one we believed in and the one we want back again. This was not possible the last 8 years and is becoming more difficult each year."

Sigh....I just hope America who came to save Europe and Germany can now save itself from itself.

:hug:

[SammyWinstonJack]

52. Lets let Germans vote in our election!

Seems we could use their help this time around.

[Pachamama]

58. If only they could....

Sigh....

I'm so sick to my stomach right now...you would think I'd feel better after watching the Train wreck named Sarah in her first prime time interview (because she would show the world how scary she is and every sane American would make sure they didn't vote for her). But instead, I realized last night just how scary she is and dangerous and that sadly, too many Americans aren't paying attention. Furthermore, we have the Republicans and the McCain campaign willing to lie, steal and who knows what else to win...

Very Scary....

[Koeln]

59. normaly

i would think that it must be enough to campaign on the issues as economy fiscal situation and health care.... but i am not sure if that´s the case in a divided nation with fanatics that are willing to defend everything.

It´s really really strange. I also watched the interview and read a lot of comments and i think these people are insane. Nobody can say that she was good or even ready for this job

[MrScorpio]

34. Frankly, I'm wishing that I lived back in Bitburg again

Times were simpler 10 years ago when I was there

At least I was out the country and had a president that no one worried about.


I have in-laws in the Netherlands... If McCain and Palin start a war against Russia... Alles ist kaput!

[Koeln]

36. So we were more or less neighbors

I was born near Trier and went to Trier University and clerly visited Bitburger brauerei several times. Now i life and work in Köln.

So you were stationed in Bitburg? Are there still US soldiers in Bitburg i think it´s closed as Hahn. Now i often use hahn airport to make unbelivable cheap weekend trips around Europe from Hahn via Ryanair

[MrScorpio]

37. I lived in Bitburg from 1994 to 1998

I was working down B-50 at Spangdahlem

Bitburg no longer has flight operations, it just has housing and commissary for Spang.

I used to drive all over the place in a Grey 1979 MB 230C. Holland, France, Belgium, Lux, and Germany.

Needless to say, I miss the Autobahn. Nothing like getting around at 160KPH

[Koeln]

39. Autobahn

There are not many Autobahnen in germany left as between Koblenz and trier where there is not much trafic and you can just drive as you want.

Now we have growing numbers of chinese people who first visite Karl marx birth place in trier and then go on the Autobahn to have fun. I am not kidding.

I love Luxembourg i worked two years there and miss it not only because the huge amount of money you can earn working in a Bank there,

[MrScorpio]

42. I know the Karl Marx House. Never went there though

But, I used to visit the Video Wolter around the corner

And that Kebap joint down the street had some great food.

And the Walkplatz right there.

Memories!

[Koeln]

45. I lived

I lived several years in the Karl marx Str. just some houses from the kebap. I only visited karl marx house once with my school long ago.

Trier is really a nice town. it´s not so big and I like the whole Moselle region and surely the Riesling wine. My sister still lives there an di only habve to travvel 90 minutes so i am quite often there

[MrScorpio]

46. It's a small world

In all the times I went to Trier, I wouldn't doubt that we passed each other at least once

I loved Trier too. Nice, friendly people.

I really loved Christmas there as well.

[Koeln]

48. It really is

a very small world.

The trierer christmas market is clearly one of the best in germany. Students call it more the Glühwein market but that´s a different topic.

It´s a very nice tradition

[MrScorpio]

50. I miss the Bitburg Folklore Festival

Now that's a party

Do you ever make it over to Holland for Queen's Day?

In Amsterdam or even in Maastricht, that's a good time

[Imagevision]

23. If Diebold gets involved, hey they did it once (at least)

[SeattleGirl]

24. If that happens, this country is FUCKED.

And I, for one, will seriously consider heading to my nearest border, Canada.

[vaberella]

28. Take it one step further with post # 25. n/t

[bridgit]

29. I don't think they will but even if they do; I don't think a majority of people understand...

the juggernaut quality of America life. It just keeps forging ahead in large measure whoever is in the WH. People will cry, and be concerned. Others will laugh, dance and point fingers. But then the vast majority will get back up the next day, trundle out to their cars and drive off to whatever work they may have left without even putting the 2 & 2 together as to why veggies are so expensive, or their electric bill keeps going up.

We care here that's a given, some even care there though they are most wrong; the rest either don't know, don't care, or don't give a shit whether we're doomed or not.

What a national malady!

[terip64]

32. If they win they will have stolen it and our work will just be beginning I am afraid...

We will have no choice but to fight for this country. I would love to just move away but I know in my heart I won't be able to leave everything behind.

Right now, TODAY, we have to register as many voters as we can and watch these bastards at the polls. The Obama campaign has lawyers ready for election day and we all have to be vigilant.

[bunkerbuster1]

43. No, there's life beyond another Republican coup

Stop talking like that. We survived a fucking civil war, after all.

[MrScorpio]

44. Yeah, but the North and South weren't lobbing nukes at each other

Big diff!

[bunkerbuster1]

54. True that, although it's sobering to consider that to equal the civil war's loss of life

we'd be looking at -- yikes -- about 5-6 million dead americans (about 31 million lived in the US at the time of the civil war, and about 600,000 died, is how I came up with that number.)

To your point--yeah, I guess we'd see numbers like that if nukes were involved, potentially. Maybe more.

[cjsmom44]

49. RE: Right on the Money

You are right on the money here...Unfortunately the masses...the lemmings who want to follow Sarah Palin blindly due to "a reason not to vote for the "scary" black man" or blindly attaching themselves to her because of her radical social views....will march themselves right over the cliff with the rest of the nation.
Unfortunately, I feel that there is so much more of the electorate than anyone ever imagined that would flock so readily towards Sarah Palin for her more traditional views. I don't believe that somehow women seem to be drawn towards her because she is a woman....they want the social war back...they want pro-life...they want their rigid, black and white thinking world back...In this way their life might seem more together..more predictable...because somehow the world seems just so scary
Well, if McCain/Palin gets in the White House...the word scary will take on a whole new meaning...

[Olney Blue]

51. That is true. We just can't let it happen.

[Motown_Johnny]

53. My back up plan is to have about 200,000 liberals move to Alaska and vote for independence

then we can outlaw guns so all the conservatives leave. After that we nationalize the oil fields and use it all to set up factories that make solar panels and wind turbines. We use all the money from the oil to make alternative energy products.

What will McCain do about it? Try to keep us from leaving the union after Palin's husband has been advocating it for years?

[MrScorpio]

56. Dude, do you really want to leave Detroit?

They have no real hockey there

And no Vernors either

They have moose

Moose don't hockey!

[demo dutch]

55. If Americans are dumb enough not to get get it, they'll get what they vote for, evident. The past

8 yrs are the example

[tedoll78]

57. Say goodbye to the Supreme Court for at least a generation.

Stevens and Ginsburg are replaced, making the court 6-3 solid right-wing.

A liberal law passes and they don't like it? They challenge it and their goons on the bench will knock it down without hesitation.

If we lose this election, we stand a good chance of losing the court for a good 30 years. If this comes to pass, I'm out. I quit caring. The country deserves what doom it gets. I'll take a George Carlinesque view of it - just enjoy the ensuing clusterfuck, smug in knowing that we tried to prevent it from all happening.

[rvablue]

60. Word! n/t