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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:32 AM
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You're fools if you think that Mr. McCain & Ms. Palin can't win...
Do you think that Republicans CARE the Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin lied about Mr. Obama?
Do you think that Republicans CARE what the truth is?
How much damage control will Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party have to do for these lies?

The truth of the matter is that Ms. Palin DID energize a base that was begging for something to stir it up. Mr. McCain could have nominated a block of cheddar cheese and the base would have gone for it. Because they are that desperate. And never deny the power of desperate people.

To the people who said that Ms. Palin showed her true colors in the interview; probably. Do you honestly think Republicans care? Of course not. The media certainly doesn't. USA Today ran a front page article today on Ms. Palin and how she governed from the middle and had to work with Democrats. Most people won't go beyond the headline to see that Ms. Palin CAN work across the aisle, just like Mr. McCain said he could. Because the media feeds this pablum to them and they just eat it up.

So please don't think that Mr. Obama has nothing to worry about. We live in an age of sound bites. Where the average voter seems to have the memory retention of a goldfish.

Always keep in mind: These people voted for Mr. Bush twice so they obviously don't put any real thought into it.

Thank you.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:33 AM
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1. Bush didn't wineither election. He stole them both! n/t
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:36 AM
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2. granted there
was prolly some election fraud in cuyahoga county and we have to fight that fiercely

but to deny the reality of rethugs' ability to master the sound bites, etc.....is folly

we have time to fight and frame




to simply chalk things up to fraud is a losing strategy
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:20 AM
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12. And the populace sat and took it. Never forget THAT part. NO PROTESTS.
Oh, a few lawsuits here and there. But not "by the People".
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:36 AM
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3. they don't care how dirty and wrong their ads are
and they don't care about the lies told to win campaigns. It blows my mind. I am afraid of my fellow American.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:37 AM
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4. I'll agree with this statement . . .
Always keep in mind: These people voted for Mr. Bush twice so they obviously don't put any real thought into it.


We have a large group of people in this country that cannot name in order every President of the US, can't find Rwanda or Sudan by site on a map, do not know the difference between Iraq and Iran, weren't aware of the situation for women in Afghanistan in the mid 90's when the Taliban took over, have no idea about the sweet oil deal Venezuela offered us a few years ago, can't pick Angela Merkel out of a picture (ditto Putin, Sarkozy, and Brown), had no idea that the Pharmaceutical company Clinton bombed in Sudan had a Board was steeped in A.Q. connections, and really honestly believe that . . .

The U.S. declared war on Germany and THUS it was okay to strike out at Iraq. <--------- Not true. But because George Bush said so - these people believe it. They also dis the French but have no idea that they went willingly into Fascism.

What's truly frightening? They don't care that Sarah Palin doesn't know any of these things either.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:41 AM
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5. I agree, however...
while the craziest wingnuts won't care, the traditional republicans and undecideds are likely to be turned off by this woman, including the "deer in the headlights" interview.

If nothing else, hardcore republicans who have a thought process will stay home and not vote, even if they can't bring themselves to vote Obama.



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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:51 AM
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8. Agree
But I think it's hardcore 'true' conservatives as opposed to neocons that will sit home.

I type this carefully . . . just because I'm sure these people are at D.U.

But I don't trust the judgment of anyone who voted Bush in 2000 or 2004. They've shown a lack of critical thinking skills. Therefore I've come to the conclusion if they haven't come over to the 'light' - they will cling with McCain/Palin as some sort of 'savior' from themselves.


They don't get it - they don't get what the definition of insanity is. And they certainly don't get that they are asking the very people who have harmed them to save them from the harm.


I swear to god I've fallen down the rabbit hole.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:56 AM
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9. You make great points...
And, I agree about distinguishing between "true" versus "neo" conservatives.

You'll note below that I tend to call the wingnuts "theoconservatives," as that is what Palin has brought to the ticket.

The ones who cling to them as saviors don't ask questions at all; that's the problem. No independent thought process. They are consumed with fear and hatred. It's sad, really, if it didn't impact the entire world so much; just as Bush's presidency would be comical, if it hadn't resulted in so much death and destruction.

Geesh.



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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:46 AM
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6. I absolutely agree.
I think the "it's going to be a cakewalk for Obama" talk has to end. As we've seen, the people running the McCain/Palin campaign will stop at nothing to win.

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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:51 AM
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7. check out this site
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

great site but is shows McDouchebag is leading in the electoral college for the first time.

I KNOW this may be from his convention bounce but when you think about where this country is today this should not even be close. it is too close for comfort and close enough for them to steal again

People need to get over the fact that Failin is a bitch and start concentrating on getting BOH elected and keeping McDouche out of the WH

peace
S
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:07 AM
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14. Objectively, McCain is now the front runner
Leading in polls, leading in Electoral polls, leading in betting odds, and still controlling the narrative.

This is the fight of our lives.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:22 AM
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15. I just hope people wake up in time...
I do agree with Mr. Obama on many things. I agree with Mr. McCain far less.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:01 AM
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10. After * Won/Stole The Last One No One Here Doubts That
What we doubt is if the USA can survive another Repuke administration.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:17 AM
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11. The emperor has no clothes!!! And this ain't a nudist colony.
Not even the MSM can hold back the truth from coming out now.

Not now.

Not after 8 years of Bush trying to define reality.
Lying his ass off on a daily basis.

Won't work now.
Too many people have asked "why did I lose my job?"
They said the economy was great, so why did Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac just collapse?

Why did we go to war in Iraq, if no WMD's were found there?

Too many questions, not enough lies.
They ran out of lies.

There are too many dead soldiers to account for.
Too many lies about WMD's in Iraq.

And then there's Valerie Plame.
Bush can pardon Libby if he wants, it ain't going to go away.

Not now.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:21 AM
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13. 30% (their rock solid base) doesn't win an election. We need to reach the swing voters
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:21 AM by kayell
and we need to ensure that every single Democrat is properly registered, is totally motivated to get to the polls, and that their votes are counted.

What You Can Do to Defend Election '08
http://electiondefensealliance.org/what_you_can_do_defend_election_08
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