After a very good night for our side.... I see the "concern" bots are logging in....

[scheming daemons]

The morning shift over at McCain Psyops must've just clocked in for work.

:eyes:

[City Lights]

1. It's really irritating.

x(

[Labors of Hercules]

2. McCain Psyops... that's fucking hilarious!

:rofl:

[jakem]

4. what did the mccain naval psyclops say...?

eye, sir!


(sorry, my 7 year old loved it!)

[Eurobabe]

3. They're watching Morning Hoe and Peggy Nonothing-Noonan

:eyes:

edit: since learning a second language my English spelling SUCKS!!

[Connie_Corleone]

5. I see a bunch of complaining about the new Obama ads that have come out.

I'm not going to complain about the ads because I'm not the target audience for them.

"These ads suck!"

"The ads aren't harsh enough."

"I don't like the ad going after McCain for not knowing how to send an email."

"We're doomed!"

"This campaign is reminding me of Kerry in 2004. We're fucked!"

Maybe, just MAYBE the ads play differently to people who don't follow politics 24/7 like we do here. Just a thought.

[Honeycombe8]

6. No, you're wrong. I know a good ad when I see one. I know a so-so ad when I see one.

I know a boring ad when I see one.

McCain is getting away with:

Lying about Obama's supposed sex ed bill, in a TV ad. No ad response by Obama camp.

Stealing Obama's "change" mantra and turning it into a gimmicky slogan. No ad response by Obama camp. ("Here ya go....steal my change message. That's okay with me.")

Making his campaign all about his second banana because he has nothing to offer himself, he was losing when it was all about HIM, McCain. No Obama camp pointing this out.

Snarking that community organizers don't have actual responsibilities. No Obama camp ad response.



Instead, the ads are nice, but are about....Obama represents "real" change. Okay, that's nice. Been said before. And before. And before. Can always hear it again, because it's true. But not the sort of ad that wins presidential campaigns when the other side is barraging you with negative ads containing lies.

The other ad points out that McCain is out of touch, lives in a different century. That ad is actually okay. It's aimed at the youth vote. But doesn't he have the youth vote already?

There's nothing in those ads to get the undecided or independent middle America guy/gal to vote for him. Change? That middle America guy now sees BOTH campaigns saying they are change agents. So they cancel each other out (unless someone points out the other is using it only as a gimmick, and started doing so just 2 weeks ago).

[TornadoTN]

8. It's a little disingenious to imply that all of us who aren't enamored with the ads are "concern bot

Seriously - I don't have a problem with the lobbyist ad, but the 1982 ad is a mistake. It's insulting to people who don't consider themselves computer literate which is far more than many of us here are willing to admit. It makes McCain out to be far more "common" than it shows him out of touch - plus it gives people something to relate to him about. It's a ready made homerun opportunity for McCain to fire back about perceived elitism. If its directed at younger voters, there's a problem with that - their voting record is the lowest in our populace, we are counting on something that is a unproven and unreliable commodity - and we don't do that by denigrating the part of the populace that has the highest percentage of voter turn-out.

I do this shit for a living. This is a bad move.

[Honeycombe8]

7. I'm a diehard Obama supporter & have been since January. And a contributor. But I'm concerned.

I see the Kerry weakness happening all over again.

Supposedly the Obama camp was coming out swinging today. But it hasn't. It needs to. It's THAT simple.

[Saturday]

9. This is why you head the "Obama Never Does Anything Wrong"

committee. I'm "concerned" for you if you see no problem in the Obama campaign the last couple of weeks.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. They come in droves whenever it appears that Obama has scored a point

It is their purpose in life. Their pride cannot even contemplate the possibility of an Obama win, so they try to create the reality of a loss even when reality itself points otherwise.

There are many posters on this board who you will never see again after November 4, since their pride will not allow them to show their faces after they've been definitively rebuked.

[Virginia Dare]

11. They're trying for that free coffee mug...n/t

[stillcool]

12. It's like a broken record..

I think we need a Concern Forum.

[chitty]

14. Just what in the hell is wrong with being "concerned"?

I would rather be concerned early on, and adjust, than cocky and lose.

I think you forgot that Chimpy is cocky and don't listen to anyone.

[stillcool]

18. After reading hundreds of 'concern' posts..

it gets a little old. You either spread the cure, or you spread the disease.

[chitty]

20. Is the cure ignoring obvious problems?

[stillcool]

21. The cure is registering voters..

and getting the information out there. If people are counting on ads, or the tv to win this election we lose..and rightfully so.

[renie408]

23. Uhhh...It's great that you were defrosted from cryostasis for this election, but I have to

break it to you...it isn't 1960 any more.

Ads WILL win or lose an election for you. Ask John Kerry what happened to him after the Swiftboat attacks. I am not saying anybody needs to panic, but pretending like all we need to do is register voters and stick to the issues isn't realistic.

[chitty]

26. Amen to that.

[stillcool]

35. Ads will win or lose this election for you...

For me? Registering voters is a way better use of my time. Information is contagious, and spreading that is way more valuable then any tv ad. And that goes way beyond this election. As I say, you either spread the disease or you spread the cure. I wasn't around in 1960. Are you referring to tv?

[renie408]

22. Yeah and then the 'Ignore' forum can go on pretending that it's OK for McCain

to be leading by 3 pts in the polls after being a complete joke affiliated with one of the most disliked presidents ever and after choosing a goddam self proclaimed HOCKEY MOM for his VP.

To paraphrase one of our own slogans, if you aren't concerned, you aren't paying attention.

[stillcool]

38. You know it's funny..

every time I go down to my Democratic Headquarters I feel better. Every time I talk to people in my little world about all the shit that's going down I feel better. I guess some of us just don't rise and fall by what comes through someone's television screen, or by what a poll says.

[President_Obama]

40. why don't you just have a good cry then? we won't laugh, promise.

[Jennicut]

13. Obama did excellent on CNN last night, Palin screwed up last night...still more concern bots

Very very annoying. The race is close, its tied. What if we were 5-10 points behind? Their heads would explode. Tired of the should have picked Hillary posts, the he is like Kerry posts, change has been taken over by McLame posts, etc. etc. etc. Nothing useful to Obama at all. Its going to be close as half the country is still Rethug. Never forget it.

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[Democat]

16. The Obama campaign knows all, you little people know nothing!

If you don't agree with the Obama campaign's "Kerry" strategy, you must be a Republican!

[chitty]

19. Yeah Kerry....

I waited for that guy to say anything right up until election day.

You know what we got?

Bupkis.

And George for 4 more.

[President_Obama]

41. if you act like a Repuke, you must be a Repuke!

calling Obama 'Kerry' is the height of repukishness

[Democat]

46. I didn't call Obama "Kerry"

I said his campaign is using the "Kerry" strategy of kissing Republican ass while Republicans beat his ass.

[President_Obama]

49. so you didn't call him Kerry, just that he's acting like Kerry?

pardon me if I don't see a difference

your signature says it all. it is evident where you stand.

[L0oniX]

17. I am concerned about concern bots.

[Borgnine]

24. Not all of us can be shiny happy optimists.

By my nature I'm naturally pessimistic, bitter, and downtrodden. It doesn't mean I'm not fighting hard for an Obama victory. It just means that, after 2000 and 2004, I'm not willing to overlook the same ineffectual tactics for fear of offending those who thinks it somehow empowers John McCain.

The fact is, the more of us who register our "concern" now, the better chance we can influence the campaign to hit harder. And if it isn't necessary, if Obama wins this thing despite our "concern," then GREAT. We'll all be happy and none of this will matter.

[Balderdash]

25. I'm concerned about people who try to stifle

other Democrats with bullying tactics, like calling them "concern bots" or
"concern trolls". DU has always been a place where Democrats and Progressives
(read liberals)could come and refresh each other or talk about their "concerns"
in a respectful manner. We're all Democrats here, concern doesn't make anyone
a damn troll. Mindlessly following along is not a Democrat trait.

[President_Obama]

42. oh, balderdash!!

[cliffordu]

27. Yep. I think they must be conscripting idjits and subnormal morals cases from

the local county jail, though, cause they sure lack the sophistication of the earlier bunch.....

[blondeatlast]

28. Fresh e-mails from the Heritage Foundation. Man, their intern pool is going downhill way fast. nt

[President_Obama]

29. it seems their talking point this morning is electoral-vote.com

thread after thread saying "oh noes! look at this we're doomed!"

at least they make it easy for us to spot them.

[Dawgs]

31. Losing doesn't concern you?

WTF!! We should be up by 10 points against these idiots. I bet you felt the same way in 04'.

[President_Obama]

39. you don't concern me at all. in fact, I pity you for your necessity to panic and flail about.

but don't let me stop you if you're having fun.

[Dawgs]

48. You should be concerned about another four years of Bush, not me.

And, I'm not having fun. I'm actually paying attention.

[Dawgs]

30. Yeah, fuck it, why be concerned about losing?

We're only talking about giving our Presidency to a war-mongering, sexist, corporate loving, old fart that picked someone with less foreign policy experience than any American that's been out of the country more than once.

What's sad is that you're not concerned.

[chitty]

32. Yeah really.........

Maybe the ones calling people concernbots are really trying to make us more complacent.

[President_Obama]

43. We aren't about to give McCain anything. That only exists in your concerned little head.

[TexasObserver]

33. You really need to stop denigrating members who don't agree with you.

Palin didn't do well, but she didn't make any disasterous comments.

Obama was his usual bland self at a sit down forum about a topic that is lame, at best.

Obama's new ads are weak, and not going to effectively respond to the attacks.


If this is your first election, you should calm down and respect the opinions of others.

If this is not your first election, what's your excuse for not understanding how disasterous it is to have Democrats who fail to see anything wrong with running a weak campaign down the stretch?

[jonnyblitz]

34. Isn't there some discussion board online where the more

"overzealous" element of the Obama movement (no offense intended to reasonable Obama supporters) can go where you all can swoon, chant, and gaze fondly upon your lord and savior's image so you can leave the rest of us who want to honestly discuss the issues the FUCK alone here at DU without this "thank you for your concern" CRAP? I have been reading your posts for quite some time and you really need to bring your complete HYSTERIA down a few notches. People like YOU are why some of us have to FORCE ourselves to support your hero enthusiastically. seriously. I never saw a bigger group of WHINEY ASSHOLES than a certain segment of the Obama movement. Obama is not fucking GOD, deal with it.

[pecwae]

36. Also always seems to be the same

ones who are concerned about the concern bots.

[WI_DEM]

37. mostly some former hillary supporters

who are the most concerned.

[redqueen]

44. Eeyores everywhere...

it's annoying.

[President_Obama]

45. someone told them that DU had good thistle!!

then they get here and there is none, so they whine and mope about

[MyNameGoesHere]

47. I know but i am comforted by the fact the concern police have mobolized

and are squashing any inkling of concern. It is very good indeed.