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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:07 AM
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I think we ought to trust "No Drama Obama" more...So far his instincts have been right
Many are saying (and I kind of feel it too) that Obama is being too passive, not aggressive enough, not mean enough.....(Too Kerry-like) in not attacking the Palin/Mccain Ticket more aggresively.

And the media is saying the Obama campaign is stumbling, that Obama has lost control of the ball....blah,blah,blah.

But I think maybe we ought to take a chill pill, and trust the instincts and strategy of the Obama more.

We've been here several times before. So far, Obama has been through several "slumps" but maintained his compusure and scored a "bingo" at just the right moment.

To use a too popular metaphor these days, if Sarah palin is a moose hunter, Obama is a marksman.

Let's not forget that Obama moved from being a longshot in the primaries, went through a long, bruising campaign and successfully won the nomination. Then he managed to choreograph a very successful convention, despite initial doubts that it was too wimpy.

I agree with those who believe Obama needs to attack, counterattack effectively and be a little bit meaner. But I think Obama knows that too, and he's going to do it in his own way at his own time.



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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:11 AM
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1. Agree! While I yell at the TV and want him to do something
more aggressive, there is a little voice in my head that keeps saying he's come this far without sinking in the mud with the rest. But, we must remember he was running against fellow Dems, and while it was nasty, I don't know if it was this nasty and included outright lies. I dunno. I'm voting for Obama, he is the best choice!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:25 AM
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3. The major difference is the Dumbo Voter factor -- And they're lost anyway
There's about a third of the population who are so ideological and/or brain dead that they're going to go for the Palin/McCain ticket no matter what. They're a lost cause. That's the major difference.

The segment in the middle who still have a few brain cells are the ones Obama has to go for.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:16 AM
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2. I agree. But it is understandable that Democrats are "nervous Nellies" after 2000 and 2004.
Obama has a game plan. So far it is working. Yes, the Palin pick has thrown them off a bit, but he will adjust. That is one difference between this year and 2004/2000. We have a candidate who knows how to win. And the fundamentals are way more in Dems favor this year.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:32 AM
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9. Exactly. Having already watched what should have been TWO cakewalk elections
'walk' away from us, I have to say I am gunshy. I am trying to tell myself that there is still time to get back into the driver's seat, but I remember how Kerry lost momentum and just never got it back.
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:28 AM
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4. The media doesn't have a fucking clue.
When "they" say Obama is on the ropes, his campaign is broke, Democrats are floundering for an answer to Palin, blah blah blah... I wonder what the hell they're talking about.

They clearly exist in a parallel universe because what they're saying doesn't resemble the reality on the ground, at all.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:28 AM
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5. No, his instincts have SUCKED throughout the summer.
McCain is kicking his ass.

Sorry, but Barack needs to realize that this is a streetfight, not a policy debate.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:31 AM
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7. yes it's a sgtreetfight -- But I'd place my money on Bruce Lee over Hulk Hogan
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:41 AM
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11. This is more like Gandhi vs. Hulk Hogan. n/t
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:44 AM
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12. Funny image
Too bad it's right. Obama wants to talk policy, while the Republicans body slam him!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:31 AM
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13. Well, is India still a British colony?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:55 AM
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15. This isn't a policy debate or liberation movement
It's a streetfight.

One candidate recognizes it. The other wants to talk about issues.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:05 AM
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17. Well, it is a liberation movement...
Those are tougher than a streetfight. In a streetfight, all you have to do is minimize the damage to yourself and bloody up the opponent.

In a liberation movement you have to build an "army" and gain support among the populace, then get into the streetfight and gain an actual victory. It takes a lot more brains and strategy, as well as toughness.

I hope I am right and you are wrong....But maybe you'll be proven right.Time will tell...



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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:38 AM
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14. delete
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 10:38 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:30 AM
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6. He can do better.
It can't be right to have day after day dominated by non-issues and not getting his message out. The issues are on our side. The message is on our side. I think much of his instincts are to be decent, which is much of what makes him an admirable man. That may counter some of the other strengths he has in his political instincts.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:32 AM
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8. I tend to agree. Besides, he IS attacking. He IS calling them on their S@*#, usually...
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 09:33 AM by Brotherjohn
... almost immediately after it is put out there (like the morning of the "lipstick" controversy, he was on the stump that morning forcefully addressing it head on).

It's just that the media is giving Palin all the press because she is a new face. And worse, they are buying the McCain campaign lie that she is being treated harshly.

But I believe in a couple of weeks, the Palin shine will wear off, and the incessant whining of the McCain campaign will get old.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:35 AM
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10. I don't think he is in a slump..
the media/republiCONS are trying to bait him into something that they can attack him on. Every morning Scarborough gets on tv and goes on his little speech about what Reagan or other Cons did in the past when someone went on the attack against them and they sit around the table trying to tell him what he should do to attack back. Why would he listen to RepubliCONS advice?
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:59 AM
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16. Agree, and we need to make better use of the memes he gives us
"Do they think we're stupid?" being one of my favorites. As in:

"The economy does better in Republican administrations"
"Do they think we're stupid?"

"Republicans will keep us safe"
"Do they think we're stupid?"

"Palin is totally ready to be President"
"Do they think we're stupid?"



More?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:13 AM
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20. Enough!
says it all
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:06 AM
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18. Exactly right. I really get tired of fair-weather Obama supporters.
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