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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:37 PM
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I think Obama's campaign is actually chipping away at McCain's honor.
That's the one thing about McCain that's considered "gold plated", "untouchable", and only a few weeks ago still inconscionable to even be considered. McCain's been building this thing up for decades, 30 years, and I am already starting to see the word "lie" in many, many articles about McCain's campaign, ads, and his own rhetoric. It won't be long before the word "lie" is associated with the man himself McCain. And, without honesty and integrity, there is no "honor" -- the only thing that McCain was left to run on.

It's taking a while, but I see it working. A month ago, hell even this week, you can't just go out and run ads bashing McCain as a "liar", as "dishonorable". As much as we want to do it, as much as those on DU are comfortable with that, many still aren't -- there's 30 years of McCain myth making to overcome. It looks to me like his campaign is getting there.

Very soon, I think the campaign will be able to go out and say something along the lines of, "you can't believe a damn word this guy says" and McCain's usual defenders (the press) won't be able to say a damn thing to the contrary.

Right now, I approve of Obama's message.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:38 PM
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1. Removing the other lipstick
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:38 PM
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2. I say John McLame is chipping away at his honor.
He's doing a spectacular job of it all on his own.

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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:47 PM
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8. Yea.. McCain himself is suffocating the "honorable" McCain.
My subject line may have given Obama's campaign too much credit for McCain's current implosion, but I do credit them for waiting this out... The "maverick" is dying, and I applaud them for stepping back and letting it happen right now. A time will come when they can attack his "honor" and no one will come to his rescue.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:15 PM
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18. And inevitably at the debates....
they are going to be asked about the "tone of the campaign."
At that point Obama is going to have the opportunity to completely lay into McCain who is not going to be able to justify the way in which he conducted his campaign.
Can't wait, this will be the moment when McCain, who cannot tolerate having his "honor" or "integrity" questioned will completely implode!
One major freak-out by him and it's over....that's just my take!
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:39 PM
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3. I'm Not Sure It's The Obama Campaign
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 01:39 PM by AldebTX
as much as its McCain allowing these blatant lies going out. Surely, he can't think they won't be challenged. He seems to be squandering his own honor.

Isn't it about time he remind us that he is a POW?
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:41 PM
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5. You've got a point. I don't know what McCain's thinking.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 01:42 PM by cottonseed
One thing could be that the internals look a lot worse for McCain than what most of us on DU seem to think. These guys are going negative in a big way, and to deviate from McCain's "brand" of honor like that, might say a lot about how they see the really going.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:53 PM
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11. I agree. McCain and Palin are doing a great job on their own. n/t
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:39 PM
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4. Actaully I think McCain is sacrificing his own honor
by being even sleazier than Rove was in 2004.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:11 PM
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15. I think he originally rationalized his decision to run a dishonorable and dishonest campaign
based on the foul, filth Bush and Rove spread about him in 2000. He uses his plaintive whine about Obama not appearing with him as his public rationalization, but he is lying about that too. I also think that he no longer realizes when he is lying. This may be a result of too many years in politics, his POW experience, normal aging, dementia or disease.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:43 PM
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6. I wish people would stop calling him a "good friend".
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:43 PM
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7. I agree and I think Obama is doing this slowly but surely. Of
course, McCain is helping by claiming that he has gone negative out of spite for Obama not doing town hall meetings together. That makes him look small, nasty and vindictive, not at all honorable.
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cjsmom44 Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:50 PM
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9. RE: Good Strategy
By the time the debate comes around McCain will be a tinderbox...and lets hope will set the stage for a possible McCain public temper tantrum... (keys not even needed LOL)
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:51 PM
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10. Yes, chip by chip with the latest example today
when McCain said, on The View, that Palin took no earmarks as Gov of Alaska, a complete lie. I'm sure they are working on the ad now.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:59 PM
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13. no... seriously?
He said that? (And Barbara Walters--or anybody else for that matter--didn't call him on it? That's odd.)

What is WRONG with these people? It's like they're Insta-Lie machines... put data in, and it comes out as the complete opposite.

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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:11 PM
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14. clearly he lies
Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Friday running mate Sarah Palin has never asked for money for lawmakers' pet projects as Alaska governor when in fact she has sought nearly $200 million in earmarks this year.

McCain made the comments as he appeared on the ABC television show "The View" as part of his effort to woo women to his candidacy.

When pressed about Palin's record of requesting and accepting such money for Alaska, McCain ignored the record and said: "Not as governor she didn't."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/mccain_talks_up_palin_as_a_ref.php
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:05 PM
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17. Yup, McCain is setting the table...
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:58 PM
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12. McCain has reached the point that he no longer realizes when he is lying
and when he is not. It would be sad if it was not so dangerous.
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:16 PM
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16. He's doing it to HIMSELF, too!
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