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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:04 PM
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It would be a serious mistake to underestimate Palin
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 08:13 PM by kennetha
I just saw more of her interview. She is much more comfortable talking about things other than foreign policy. She still does not come across as a terribly deep or astute student of the ins and outs of tax policy or entitlements or anything of that sort. But she is much more relaxed and in her comfort zone.

She also has certain openness and seeming vulnerability that many may find appealing. And I'm sure that now that she has basically flubbed her first foreign policy interview, she will be much better next time. By the time the debate rolls around, she may be able to bring that same relaxed folksiness to bear on foreign policy discussions.

My point is that we shouldn't underestimate her appeal. When she gets off the details of arcane policy and onto personal narrative and when she is allowed to talk those domestic issues at which she isn't a total dunce, one can see that she has a certain appeal

For example, even though her personal views on issues like abortion are quite conservative -- even to the right of her running mate's views -- she didn't come across as an intolerant right-wing loonie. She acknowledged the diversity of views on this score and she managed to sound like a politician who is more interested in finding reasonable compromises than one who is dedicated to fighting pitched battles. Of course, she could just be a wolf in sheep's clothing. On that I think the jury is still out. But its clear that McCain and Palin are counting on the base staying energized more by her personal story and personal commitment than by any explicit promises to do their bidding. This is the same kind of trick that Ronald Reagan successfully pulled on the prolife movement. He gave them the theme music constantly. But he didn't actually advance their cause all that much.

Anyway, the question with Palin is how far beyond the Republican base she will appeal. The folks who are in play, I'm guessing, are independents, weak dems, and/or weak republican constituencies. Whoever grabs the lion share of those folks wins the election.

I don't have any particularly startling thoughts right now about what we can do to diminish her appeal. I think on issues we win. I think if its more about personal narrative and a sense of identification, Palin gives their ticket a potential leg up.

Bottom line, I do think it would be a mistake to just ignore her, as somebody suggested we do on another thread. She is not out of the game. She had a bad debut in her first face to face interview -- a really bad debut. But her second act showed her strengths. They are not insurmountable. But they are real.

Obviously, the McCain campaign will not let her do any heavy lifting on foreign and international affairs (except on questions about oil and energy independence) except when they are force to. She is very much out of her depth on these topics, obviously. But one can see what they see in her, despite that. When she is on her "home turf" she has a simple, understated appearance of authenticity that I do believe many will find appealing.

Maybe the key is to not let her play on her home turf very much. But I'm not sure how one goes about making that happen. That's not something our side really has much control over. THe press, I guess, could be a big help here. If the press decides it has a duty to make it plain that Palin is way out of her depth on C-in-C kinds of issues, that could be a big, big help.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:53 PM
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:53 PM
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2. Thanks for your concern. eom.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:54 PM
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3. Let's just focus on McCain for now
The more we obsess about Palin, the worse we do.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:03 PM
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11. Agreed
Promoting the idiotic obsession here is not helpful IMO.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:55 PM
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4. You know ,kennetha
You've been a thorn in our side ever since Clinton lost. Which side are you on?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:57 PM
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7. Kennetha just said he/she was going to donate to Obama the other day
That the healing process has been hard, but he/she realizes it's time to move on and contribute to Obama now because we can't let McCain/Palin win. So please don't attack...what's the point of alienating people we need on our side?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:02 PM
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10. Hey, democrattotheend
If my post alienates Kennetha, was he ever on our side? I'll ask that of any Clinton supporters planning to vote for Palin.
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Higher Standard Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:56 PM
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5. "Well, maybe next time you will estimate me."
- Michael Scott, Regional Manager, Dunder-Mifflin Scranton
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:56 PM
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6. No. We ignore her and attack McCain, period. We know your "concern" game
You wanted Hillary in the primaries and are still pissed, so you come here trying to mess up the strategy.

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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:58 PM
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8. Palin is scary as hell.

she is a hyena in sheep's clothing. A stupid, mangy poacher of the most frightening type.

the thought that she could possibly become president is too horrifying to contemplate. :scared:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:58 PM
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9. Or maybe the key is that she's a complete lightweight and you'd have to be a moron...
... to vote for McCain.

I dunno. Maybe?

:shrug:

I'm not going to fight this by walking on tiptoes. Stupid is as stupid does. Enough.
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