Animal lovers will defeat Palin.....

[Jade Fox]

Animal lovers cross all political demographics and income groups. The powerful "wolf killing" ad put out by Defenders of Wildlife has gotten a huge response. We need a lot more adds like it. I'm making a big donation to DoW this weekend.

And yes, I did say "defeat Palin", because that's who we're running against now. Ignoring her would be deadly. Does anyone really think that tired old man McCain would be polling as high as he is without her?

[hisownpetard]

1. Yes, the race has changed. It's PALIN/mccain, and we have to fight this tooth and nail.

[mucifer]

2. There are LOTS of hunters in this country.

BTW I've been a vegetarian since I was 16, 26 years. I think there might be a stronger voting block in the animal hunters than the animal rights activists.

[Peregrine Took]

7. Well, let's just go "toe to toe" with them and see who wins! n/t

[Critters2]

9. Many hunters don't consider aerial hunting to be really hunting,

any more than canned hunts. Others don't like hunting predators, because it throws nature out of balance. Yeah, some hunters just think animals were put here to be shot. But, between the more ethical hunters and animal lovers, this could hurt Caribou Barbie.

[hlthe2b]

26. Exactly.... "real hunters" don't kill for sport by aerial gun spray.

that's for true cowards and sadists.

[nam78_two]

12. A lot of real hunters find the kind of canned hunting Palin, Cheney etc. do disgusting

I know a lot of hunters who hunt for food-but that is a very different thing from the sort of pure blood-lust or whatever that seems to motivate these psychos.

[enough]

17. I know a lot of hunters (all of whom eat what they kill) . They have very high standards

of hunting ethics. They absolutely despise anything like canned hunting (of which aerial hunting is a form). I think this ad will strike a chord with them.

[midnight]

3. What is with the two front runners for the V.P. slot. Mittins was

awful to his family dog. Putting him on the top of the car in a crate, and flying down the freeway-for hours. And Palin killing for power.

[kskiska]

36. And Huck bragged about eating horsemeat.

He loved it.

[Condem]

4. I would easily kill a human before....

Nah, I better not go there.

[liberalmuse]

5. I want to see an ad about the Polar bears, too.

I was wondering why PETA or the wildlife groups hadn't put out an ad, but I'm so glad they did. People need to know what this woman stands for. I hope someone puts an ad out about the rape kits, too.

[Jade Fox]

42. Yes--a polar bear ad.....

as soon as possible.

I hope Planned Parenthood or some women's group puts out an ad about those rape kits.

[ShortnFiery]

6. Not just "Animal Lovers" - non-sociopathic HUNTERS disavow "Aerial Hunting" as both

barbaric and chickenshit. That's not SPORT Hunting. :grr:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. it's being broadcasted around the world apparently

not in their MSM yet but via the internet

[ShortnFiery]

13. Yes, and remember this is not a left-right or Pro or anti-gun issue, it's a moral compass issue.

It's not "sport" to us a helicopter to chase down wolves until their exhausted, then kill them. Hunters who value "the sport" and eat the meat of their prey loathe sociopathic assholes who use this "shooting fish in a barrel" type tactic.

Most hunters don't hire guides to TAKE THEM to the game, they actually TRACK the game.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

32. the more people who see this, the better

[lonestarnot]

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[msongs]

11. wheres the video showing her murdering defenseless animals from a plane? nt

[ShortnFiery]

16. Palin might as well have pulled the trigger when she authorized this barbaric practice.

:grr:

[Raine]

14. I have some friends who are animal loving repugs

and I end to push her cruelty to animals heavily with them, they are going to have to decide which is more important...their love of animals or being a repuke.

edit: typo correction

[flamingdem]

15. hmmm. Isn't Pamela Anderson a PETA member? She hates Palin. I hope they are donating

to Obama's campaign!

[vaberella]

19. You know she must be. She is more than a PETA member she's a

Wild life Conservationalist. She may come across as a ditz but she's so into Animal love it's ridiculous and sometimes from her antics near extreme. So yeah...you know she'll do what she can to make sure that woman is out.

[flamingdem]

21. She told a reporter to tell Sarah Palin to "Suck it" after he asked her opinion

on the gamey VP candidate

[vaberella]

30. Yup, I saw the video a HuffPo. She even rolled her eyes and mentioned the bear. n/t

[vaberella]

18. I've said it before and I'll say it again, she pissed off a nation of animal lovers. n/t

[HughMoran]

20. Wishful thinking

1) Palin is not running for anything
2) You overestimate how much people care about this.

[Jade Fox]

23. Palin's not running for anything? Wha?

No, I don't overestimate how much people care about this. See post 22.

[Hepburn]

22. Our Gubenator Ah-nold decided one time the way to reduce costs was to...

...kill shelter animals earlier and save the costs of keeping them until their owners could get them or they could be adopted. The reception for this by the Cal voters was bad, really bad. In fact, outrage would be a good description. What that POS Palin is doing is far worse, IMO. I hate her, really hate her, and I hope to hell she gets the same public outrage ~~ and even worse ~~ that Asshole Ah-nold got over snuffing puppies.

JMHO....:grr:

[Raine]

37. Arnie said the his kids gave him hell about that

he even admitted himself that it was dumbass mistake to even have contemplated it. I despise Palin cause of her cruelty to animals. I hate her so much, the thought of hearing about her killing animals for the next 4 years makes me want to puke. :puke: :mad: :grr:

[Raine]

24. Maybe this bloody stuff goes over in her circle

but it doesn not go over with the majority. I don't care if she was a Demorat and running with Obama I will NOT ever vote for someone that does that kind of thing to animals! :mad: :grr:

[Olney Blue]

25. Hit her hard. Little baby polar bears swimming around trying to find

an ice floe, wolf pups sniffing their dead mother on the snow, Sarah with her fur clothing, etc......

[dgibby]

27. Wolf pups

Wolf pups are also being killed in their dens, according to DoW. I just donated to them so they can get their message out to more people. :-(

[RamboLiberal]

39. Yep - good article here

Climate change. Although Alaska is ground zero in the crisis of global warming, Palin has done virtually nothing to address the problem except hold meetings and appoint a "climate sub-cabinet" that likewise has done little. Lots of talk, no action. Although in the past two years the Arctic summer sea ice shrunk to the lowest levels ever recorded, Palin apparently does not believe it is human-induced or cause for alarm. She was asked to establish an Alaska Office on Climate Change, an Alaska Climate Response Fund (based on a tax on Alaska oil production) and emissions reduction targets for Alaska, but has taken no action on those requests.

Polar bears. This summer, Palin filed suit against the Bush administration over the federal listing of polar bears as threatened, saying that her opposition was based on a "comprehensive scientific review." But when asked to release the scientific review, she refused. The document, later obtained by the public (from the federal government), clearly shows that, contrary to Palin's assertions, the state of Alaska's marine mammal scientists agreed with the federal conclusions that the polar bears are in serious trouble because of global warming and loss of their sea ice habitat, and that they would be gone from Alaska by 2050. Palin clearly decided to oppose the listing in order to protect Arctic oil and gas development, then publicly misrepresented the basis for her decision, and then tried to conceal all of that. Having run for office on a platform of honesty and transparency, this behavior was neither. Her extreme position here puts her to the political right of the Bush /Cheney administration.

Endangered species. Earlier this year, Palin approved a $2 million state appropriation for a conference on the "economic impacts" of the Endangered Species Act, designed to persuade the public that ESA listings were too costly and unwarranted. Recently she agreed to use the money instead to fund the state's lawsuit against the Bush administration over the polar bear listing -- a likely violation of the state constitutional provisions on appropriation. She opposes additional species listings and other protections in Alaska, where many species are at risk because of climate change and other threats.

Predator control. Palin approved and expanded the state's aerial predator control program, where wolves are shot from aircraft and bears hunted from aircraft and killed upon landing. This year, her state biologists even dragged 14 newborn wolf pups from their den and, having already shot their parents, then shot each of the pups in the head at close range. Last year, her administration offered a $150 bounty for each wolf killed until the bounty was ruled illegal by the courts. Hundreds of wolves are killed each year by this antiquated state program that has no scientific justification whatsoever, but rather is designed to appease Palin's urban sport hunter supporters.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/377955_palinenvir07.html?source=mypi

[Jade Fox]

43. Thanks for posting that! nt

[Kaleko]

28. That dumb hockey mom hunter is becoming the hunted.

Watch out, Palin, we'll even haunt you in your dreams.

[cascadiance]

29. Call Link TV to get them to re-air Defender's of Wildlife FULL length doc on this topic!

This aired on Earth Focus some months back, well before Sarah Palin was nominated, and even though not pointing a finger directly at her, it certainly to the government of Alaska to task a lot. It really gives one more in depth look at what's happening, and yes, it also has some pics of wolf puppies in it too (1:00 in). Maybe if enough of us contact and challenge them to air this for added donations from us, we can help get this message out more and more!

Earth Focus wolf hunting clip page: http://www.linktv.org/video/2126

Link TV contact page: http://www.linktv.org/contactus

http://www.defenders.org/programs_and_policy/wildlife_conservation/imperiled_species/wolves/wolf_recovery_efforts/alaska_wolves/index.php

http://www.defenders.org/resources/publications/programs_and_policy/wildlife_conservation/imperiled_species/wolf/alaska_wolf/silencing_alaskans.pdf

[Orangeone]

31. I don't get it

Palin is supposed to be for slaughtering wolves to "protect" the moose and caribou, but she's for drilling in ANWAR. Isn't that going to be bad for the caribou?

[begin_within]

33. And here's a distillation of it

[kskiska]

34. I know of a horse blog that's turned on her

because of the wolf story. There were a number of Repugs there, too, but they've shut their mouths. Must be conflicted.

[ailsagirl]

35. KICK

[girl gone mad]

38. This video has gone viral.

Librarians, booksellers, book collectors and people who work in the publishing industry also seem to be overwhelmingly against her due her inquiries about banning books and her ties to a church with a history of censorship.

[XemaSab]

40. She's pro-whaling too

x(

[RamboLiberal]

41. Salon Story on her Wolf Hunting program-good article to send around

Sept. 8, 2008 | Wildlife activists thought they had seen the worst in 2003 when Frank Murkowski, then the Republican governor of Alaska, signed a bill ramping up state programs to gun down wild wolves from airplanes, inviting average citizens to participate. Wolves, Murkowski believed, were clearly better than humans at killing elk and moose, and humans needed to even the playing field.

But that was before Sarah Palin took Murkowski's job at the end of 2006. She went one step, or paw, further. Palin didn't think Alaskans should be allowed to chase wolves from aircraft and shoot them -- they should be encouraged to do so. Palin's administration put a bounty on wolves' heads, or to be more precise, on their mitts.

In early 2007, Palin's administration approved an initiative to pay a $150 bounty to hunters who killed a wolf from an airplane in certain areas, hacked off the left foreleg, and brought in the appendage. Ruling that the Palin administration didn't have the authority to offer payments, a state judge quickly put a halt to them but not to the shooting of wolves from aircraft.

Detractors consider the airborne shootings a savage business, conducted under the euphemism "predator control." The airplanes appear in the winter, so the wolves show up like targets in a video game, sprinting across the white canvas below. Critics believe the practice violates the ethics of hunting, while supporters say the process is not hunting at all, but a deliberate cull.

Palin has argued that she is worried about Alaska's hunters, locked in perennial competition with the canine carnivores for the state's prodigious ungulate population. A hunter herself, Palin has battled critics of aerial wolf hunting with the support of the Alaska Outdoor Council, a powerhouse advocacy and lobbying organization for hunting, fishing and recreation groups. In addition to so-called urban hunters, who shoot moose mostly for fun, Alaska is home to a significant number of subsistence hunters, including some of the Native population. Subsistence hunters rely on an occasional moose to make ends meet. The wolves, Palin has said, are stealing food from their tables.

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Gordon Haber is a wildlife scientist who has studied wolves in Alaska for 43 years. "On wildlife-related issues, whether it is polar bears or predator controls, she has shown no inclination to be objective," he says of Palin. "I cannot find credible scientific data to support their arguments," he adds about the state's rationale for gunning down wolves. "In most cases, there is evidence to the contrary."

Last year, 172 scientists signed a letter to Palin, expressing concern about the lack of science behind the state's wolf-killing operation. According to the scientists, state officials set population objectives for moose and caribou based on "unattainable, unsustainable historically high populations." As a result, the "inadequately designed predator control programs" threatened the long-term health of both the ungulate and wolf populations. The scientists concluded with a plea to Palin to consider the conservation of wolves and bears "on an equal basis with the goal of producing more ungulates for hunters."

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/09/08/sarah_palin_wolves/

[TwilightGardener]

44. I think the Defenders of Wildlife should cut the most graphic part

of their ad so it can be shown on television--people get the idea, watching the poor wolves run through the snow away from the plane, that they're about to be shot--the suggestion alone is powerful enough to make the point, no need to turn stomachs. Otherwise, I think the full ad is great for the web--just needs to be fine-tuned for TV. I don't know if they have the budget to air it, though.

[meow2u3]

45. It's not hunting to shoot and kill an animal aerially

just to watch the poor creature die a slow, torturous death.

OTOH, it's understandable to shoot a tranquilizer dart into a sick yet dangerous animal by air for the sole purpose to subdue the reluctant animal and get him or her the life-saving veteranary treatment it needs. That should the only reason for aerial shootings--non-lethal and so as not to risk your own life to save an animal.

This is not true in the case of the Attila from Wasilla; she just enjoys watching helpless creatures suffer, be they on two legs or four.