This whole 'Obama should have picked Hillary' bs is a rw talking point

[jillan]

and I hope you guys all see thru it.

They are trying to make our ticket look weak by implying that Obama is unhappy with his choice.

I remember immediately after Obama picked Biden, rw shills were saying that they didn't think
Obama had the guts to do it.

McCain had no other choice than to pick Palin.
She was the only one who could go against Biden one on one because no one expects her to know crap about foreign affairs. Anyone else - Pawlenty, Ridge, or even LIEberman wouldn't have had a chance against Joey the shark.

They are trying to play with our heads, we can't let them.

[CrispyQ]

1. This is the best ticket we've had since I started voting. --nt

[jillan]

8. Most exciting ticket for me where I really like both the Pres and vp candidates.

[nc4bo]

2. Yea and it's such a good one that Mooselips is repeating it on the ABC interview. nt

[jillan]

3. That's why I posted this.

They are just trying to stir shit up.

[The Magistrate]

4. True Enough, Ma'am

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

5. Divisive politics from the pukes. Who would have thought?

:shrug:

[jillan]

6. I know - it is hard to imagine! They're such nice folks.

[movonne]

7. I just heard a rumor that mc cain wants to dump palin...but his handlers

won't let him because he is failing and they want palin for president...is that a good one...

[1corona4u]

28. I think they're going to have him in a wheelchair, and a drool bib soon...

[Forkboy]

9. Of course it is, but they don't realize that that argument is soooo July.

[applegrove]

10. My dad feels Clinton would help if she had been chosen for the race. I think

Palin's support will collapse not very far from now. She's just repeating the same talking points over and over again, and alot of it is just lies or near lies.

[WinkyDink]

14. Your dad is incorrect. Notice how there have been ZERO stories promoted slandering Biden?

[applegrove]

17. I agree. I think my father is conflicted cause like a lot of men he is conflicted

by Pailin...find her attractive and charming...hating what she stands for.

[Monk06]

24. Lynn Cheney was attractive and charming at 44. She too was/is completely psychotic.

[renie408]

11. "We gots us a GIRL! I bet you wish you had a GIRL, too!"

He picked Palin because she gave his campaign a pulse when it was dead on its feet. It was a temporarily smart thing to do. I have a feeling that the longer she is out there, the less smart he is going to look. They are already starting to sound a little desperate when they insist, "She energizes the party."

[abumbyanyothername]

12. As I said in another thread

I don't think HRC was interested in VP. Somebody suggested Sec of State, but I don't think she wants that either. She will be a Senator for life now, and an important part of the party.

Now . . . William Jefferson might still accept Supreme Court, but I doubt it will be offered.

[Sidney J Mussburger]

27. I thought about that a couple days ago

But I doubt he'd accept. He could help the world alot more through his charity by giving speeches and raising money than by being a Supreme Court Justice.

[Liberal Gramma]

29. He'd be a great US delegate to the UN

The world respects Clinton. He could do a lot of good there.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

31. Sorry, but Bill does not have the chops for SCOTUS appt

I think HRC and Bill will get nice appointments in the Obama administration, but since neither one has ever sat on a bench in a black robe, SCOTUS is not in their future. At least not in the next 8 years

[jeff.marchiafava]

13. Of course it's BS...

And it's ridiculous: they're still trying to get Hillary supporters to overlook the lies and the entire political platforms at play and vote for Palin just because she's a woman. Biden is a great pick: he has experience, he's honest, and quite frankly he's a bulldog. No one in the democratic party is regretting it. The republicans are trying to make another controversy to steal another news cycle: first pigs and lipsticks, and today that's gone. Now it's Obama wants Hilary. Tomorrow it will be something else. They are counting down the days, fake news story after fake news story, and I REALLY hope Obama puts his foot down. He just needs to expose it: say "look what they're doing? They're distracting you. They don't value your opinions or your intelligence. They don't want to inform you -- they just want to trick you. Enough."

Anyway, that's what I hope he'll do. And I hope that will be enough...

[ShadowLiberal]

15. Yeah, it's sickening that the "you're being sexists!" GOP would be using sexism against a Hillary VP

Besides, now that Hillary is out of the race people tend to forget all of the negative things about her that would have hurt her in a general election. The Clinton's have been involved in a lot of scandals over the year, and the GOP was drooling over the prospect of bringing them all back up, and new ones since the 1996 election, to tar her any way they can.

Still, just because Hillary would or wouldn't be a better or worse VP doesn't mean that Obama could have possibly made a better VP pick. I'd have sort of preferred someone with a strong appeal to Hillary voters who would be a somewhat fresh face, or someone who could have brought a state with them, like the governor of Ohio (even if he didn't want the job).

[1corona4u]

16. Yup...

They want people to start doubting the choice. Don't do it.

[progressoid]

22. ditto yup.

[dailykoff]

18. I think so.

I've heard it from various talking heads including John Dean, but Dean isn't a Democrat and even if he thinks he's right, he's wrong.

[RiverStone]

19. I agree - and anybody that posts that negativity here might as well be a troll

Shoulda, woulda, couldas do nothing to help us win the GE.

Joe was a damn good choice --- leave it at that!

[Obamarulz11]

20. BO dont bite on the fake

[eshfemme]

25. I love that picture!!!

And someone's said already in this thread that Biden has had no fishy stories coming out about him. The best they could come up with was Hunter being a lobbyist (yeah, this coming from a campaign that is RUN by lobbyists). This totally fits Obama's MO as in no drama for Obama.

That's what I like about Obama, his decisions usually mesh well (even if they don't appear to on the surface). I can trust that he at least put a lot of thought and consideration into it.

[Patsy Stone]

21. They are trying to reverse engineer the Hillary phenomenon

They need to make moderate Republican women, and undecided women who may have been voting for Hillary just because she's a woman, mad again. They need them upset enough about how the campaign portrays Sarah's negative publicity as sexism in all cases in order to get them to the polls, hold their nose, and vote for McCain.

It's a tall order.

[Egnever]

23. Yup

:applause:

[Sidney J Mussburger]

26. Agree Wholeheartedly

Link to my response in another thread for why other 'Democrats' use this talking point http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7051489&mesg_id=7051687

or I'll just copy and paste


It's beyond fucked up
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 10:11 PM by Sidney J Mussburger
So many of these Dem talking heads couldn't care less if Obama lost the election because they'd be out of a job in the near future. A new Democratic Administration means new talking heads to replace the old ones. Money is the root of all evil, including our own party.

[oldsneakers]

30. I want to see more of Biden

he rocks

[JerseygirlCT]

32. Totally

And eagerly taken up by the remnants who are still pouting over the outcome of the primaries.

Just waiting to say "see, I told you so!".