Janeane Garofolo was so awesome on Bill Maher tonight!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

I usually avoid sexist asshat Maher like the plague but when I found out Janeane was going to be on I had to watch. She put the smackdown on that idiot John Fund. She wouldn't give him an inch of slack to peddle his bullshit about Palin.

Janeane :yourock:

[Bread and Circus]

1. She was super good but made one huge mistake...

she lumped all Republicans and conservatives in with the asshole sitting next to her.

Yeah, he was a liar and a dickhead.

However, there are lots and lots of well meaning Republicans and conservatives out there that will give you the shirt off their back. A lot of them just have a different world view and different values. Much of that is genetic and cultural.

Maher recognized she went too far. I don't blame her though, she's just mad as hell at the lies. We all are.

However, Bill Maher made the mistake of villifying the rural areas. Again, despite the voting history, there's lots of good people out here.

And just like Barack said, they distrust both parties, so they vote with their guns and their religion. And yes, they are BITTER with every right to be.

It's too bad Barack has gotten fucked over for telling the truth.

[qanda]

5. I didn't see the show but I think one mistake Democrats make is always parsing words

Perhaps we need to stop trying to explain everything and add caveats and just get to the point. Anyone who plans to vote Republican after the last eight years deserves to be lumped into a group. I never hear Republicans stopping their rhetoric to add something nice about the small majority of Democrats that they feel are nice. I say give it to them straight and maybe they'll stop thinking we're all soft and wimpy.

[Bread and Circus]

23. What if I said that about ALL WOMEN just because SOME WOMEN are going

to cross party and ideologic lines to vote for McCain Palin for the simple fact that they are voting for their gender identity?

It would be a pretty nasty thing to say, no?

The funny thing is that the liberals and Democrats could win over rural voters in a huge way if there was an honest and ongoing effort. However, when Bill Maher wants to villify the rural areas he does a disservice to the great cause of good.

And that's exactly what the RW smear machine wants. The culture war and the "god and guns" mentality is exactly what allows controlling elite to get re-elected.

People out here just get so damn confused and fed up they vote what they know and it's a lot easier for them to wrap their minds around guns and god than it is to understand exactly what a tiered tax plan is going to do for them.

[genna]

29. You're conflating several different issues: the ability to think, good intentions, and anger.

You sound like Joe Scarsborough and I don't buy that argument.

I didn't see Bill Maher yet.

But I get tired of people saying Democrats are tenative, then getting upset when tough guys and gals go off. Republicans have no boundaries. Choose whether we should be respectful of haters or whether we can call them on their intolerance.

[Bread and Circus]

36. So, you didn't see it, but you want to deride my opinion on it? Wow.

BTW I did see it, enjoyed Garrafalo immensely ( I always do ), but she's not perfect.

But on the other hand, if we had an army of women out there talking like her, I think it would bolster the embrace of the truth.

I still don't how people here can castigate me for saying she wasn't perfect. No one is perfect.

Being forceful doesn't mean being ugly and I still think there were 2 moments where her performance crossed over from forceful to ugly.

[K Gardner]

32. Amen! I made the same exact point she made to my son the other day after

spending a few hours working (in an ER) with some "republican" co-workers. Mean to the hispanic patients who couldn't speak English, rude and condescending.. they carried their "meanspirited" talking points to work with them, used them against patients, and it was disgraceful.

Which I told them to their face. No democrat would have ever acted that way. And Janine was telling the truth..

We need to STOP parsing words.

[Sugarcoated]

7. I thought she was a bit scattered and not crisp with her points

but she got with it as the show went along - I especially liked when she countered the elite John Fund's smug warning, that perpetual Repub BS that we'll lose if we "keep it up", in criticizing Palin with a point I've been making for years - if that were the case Democrats would win in every election.

[bkcc]

9. I agree.

I like Janeane, but it appeared as if Fund's complete and utter smugness took her by surprise and knocked off her game. By the end of the show, she seemed totally exasperated.

[Sugarcoated]

11. She has so much info in that noggin of hers

But I know how she feels . . . so many hundreds of lies and bullshit it's hard to know where to start.

[Bread and Circus]

24. She is one of my favs and she did seem exasperated. It's very hard to argue

people that lie so easily. You get caught chasing their lies and they just move on cooly to the next lie.

[bkcc]

42. That was definitely an issue.

The guy wasn't arguing logically at all. He would lie outright, she'd call him on it, and then he'd condescendingly tell her that she was being a typical liberal.

It was very frustrating to watch. I thought for sure someone was going to slug him.

[SalviaBlue]

48. I saw Fund as being completely chagrined by the end.

He is not used to being called on his insincere cheerleading. Both Janeane and Maher told him he was full of shit and couldn't possibly believe what he was saying.

[Clcal422]

14. no I do Not buy that BECAUSE THIS Girl was PERFECT

SHE HELD HER OWN and STATED FACTS!!!!!!!AND WAS AMAZING 
WHY CAN'T WOMEN LOOK UP TO REAL WOMEN LIKE HER ????????????
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bread and Circus]

22. I'm sorry but she essentially stated liberals are better "people" than conservatives...

that's just not a "fact". It's an opinion.

And she said something to the effect of criminalizing conservative or throwing them out of the country. That's actually kind of a fascist way to think.

Again, she's just mad as fuck and I don't blame her. But she wasn't perfect.

I'm glad she gave that Fund dude both barrels, same with Bill. All that guy did was lie all night.

[K Gardner]

33. She was speaking "tongue in cheek" about the criminal remark, good grief. As for the other, she was

correct and speaking the truth.

[Josh]

19. Agreed. I was there and I thought that bit was awful

I thought she went too far. Even if she's RIGHT, the left has got to learn that you just can't freaking WIN like that. You can't call half the country assholes and expect any of the people in the middle to vote for you.

[Sugarcoated]

39. The Republican's did it for 4 days

at their convention, yet, they've been winning the last couple of elections, so that meme doesn't hold water.

[WinkyDink]

40. "there are lots and lots of well meaning Republicans and conservatives out there"? WHERE, pray?

Voting for BUSHCO the last 2 elections? Maybe listening to LIMBAUGH and HANNITY?
Oh, they might well believe in "personal charity", giving "the shirt off their back" like occurred in Dickensian times. I prefer the SOCIAL CONTRACT, myself.

GMA&*^^&*B.

[blue_onyx]

43. Did he really villify rural areas?

It seemed to me he was just angry that Palin was saying that small towns were somehow better and more American.

[mtnsnake]

45. Good post. n/t

[PatSeg]

2. She was amazing tonight

This past year Real Time has gotten pretty dull and she brought some new life to the show. Usually the token conservative dominates the conversation, but she wouldn't let John Fund get away with that crap this time.

[Clcal422]

17. thank god even Bill Maher knows it is true LMAO

[PatSeg]

26. Welcome to DU!

I never cared for Maher's idea of having a conservative on every show, as they tend to talk over everyone else and often ruin the show. Until Real Time, I didn't realize that there was a consistent pattern such as that regarding conservatives.

[npk]

3. Janeane is as far left as they come

But I still love her.

[vaberella]

4. Does anyone think it's on youtube yet? n/t

[rexy]

6. I think so.

I just found this. The person uploaded it in parts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgjyOuvuCPc

[vaberella]

8. I had just started watching it 5 minutes ago to report that I found it. n/t

[eshfemme]

25. Thank you for the link! Enjoying it a lot!

[senseandsensibility]

52. Thanks for the link

I don't get HBO and rarely get to see this show. Edited to add that I do't know if it's on HBO or Showtime, but I don't get either.

[SeattleGirl]

10. I think she was doing her best not to bust Fund in the chops.

I love her. Don't always agree with her, but damn, she can hold her own.

[Clcal422]

12. SHE WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AMAZING

sooo BRILLIANT That girl IS

[Clcal422]

20. Bill Maher is A way better Man than I am, and

that is saying a lot cause I am a girl but I am too far too the left to NOT tell the whole truth LOL

[Sivafae]

13. I loved Roseanne as well. nt

[me b zola]

38. Me too

I adore both women because they don't suffer fools. Strong, independent women who will knock the crap out of stupid arguments with a quickness.

[johnnydrama]

15. did she nail him

for his "Democrats send 30 dirt diggers to Alaska" lie.

If not, it was a wasted opportunity to call him out.

[genna]

34. Lawyers are dirt diggers?

Fact finders have to sift through the surrounding atmospherics to get what they need to find. If it is mud, fine. If it is shit, fine.

For those who benefit from the mud and shit shifters, it makes no sense to act like those mud and shit shifters are untouchables. It's like saying to a butcher, hey give me the meat but I can't believe you cut up carcasses for a living.

[lonestarnot]

16. Woohoo!

I missed it as I don't have paid channel!

[celestia_leigh33]

18. I missed it

:hippie:

[lonestarnot]

21. Welcome to DU!

:hi: You will love it here! :hi:

[Party Line]

28. Watch it on YouTube

The link is up thread.

[lonestarnot]

46. Thanks! Will but now of to help the next POTUS! GOBAMA!

[PatSeg]

27. Welcome to DU

There will be plenty of clips of the show posted at YouTube and here, if they haven't been already.

[Guava Jelly]

30. I'm glad she grew her hair back out

I didn't care for the blond militant look she had before.
She was good :thumbsup:

[symbolman]

31. She's a real sweetheart been great to us

when we were being sued for a half a million bucks by Michael Savage's people she hooked me up with Robert Greenwald who hooked us up with the ACLU, People for the American Way, etc to try and help us, and Janeane generously donated to us so we could get legal help (a DU'rs sister, a lawyer saved our asses) --

I just got a postcard from her a few months ago, heavily decorated with cute little animals, etc, extolling the virtues of the copy of my book I'd sent her, THE JESUS BOLT. She was looking forward to digging in and reading it, and wanted to add the conceptual metaphor of "The Jesus Bolt" to her lexicon.. how could I say no? :)

She not only talks the talk, she literally walks the walk. There's not a finer more honest person I know other than my wife, esp when it comes to being an empathetic, rational Human Being..

She's the greatest, and Kicked that fuckhead in the balls repeatedly. When she said it might be a good idea to put Republicans in Jail, she wasn't talking about ALL of them, for anyone to think that would be beyond the absurd.

She obviously meant the Crooked ones, the ones she was talking about, those at the RNC spreading Fear and Hatred, etc.

[RxnMan1337]

50. Sorry, off topic but

your Palin/McCain ad made me LOL haha

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

35. Janeane and Roseanne were both fantastic. Too often Maher will have Liberals on the panel

who mean well but aren't in control of the facts to debunk the wrongwing talking points.

Fund couldn't get away with anything until Overtime

I don't know if anyone watched Overtime, but Fund spouted another lie...Todd Palin is a stay at home Dad. I guess Janeane and Roseanne didn't know that he wasn't.

[gulliver]

37. She gutted him like a fish.

In the end, he looked like the smarmy, lying POS he is. It was hilarious too, by the way.

[gulliver]

51. Not Maher, by the way, Fund. n/t

[krawhitham]

41. Janeane Garofalo is always awesome

[blue_onyx]

44. Janeane was great on the show

I didn't know she was going to be on but it was a nice surprise. The one Republican guy was annoying...but she handled him well.

[barack the house]

47. You gotta love Janeane.

[Habibi]

49. Fund: "So what should we do, throw all the Republicans in jail?"

Garofolo: "That would be great!"



:rofl:

[JackBeck]

53. She had us cheering for her as we watched.

It was quite enjoyable watching her. Almost cathartic, in a way.