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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:27 AM
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Sarah Pinocchio strikes again!! Latest Lie from Factcheck
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 08:28 AM by Laura PackYourBags
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/energetically_wrong.htmlEnergetically Wrong

September 12, 2008
Palin says Alaska supplies 20 percent of U.S. energy. Not true. Not even close.
Summary
Palin claims Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." That's not true.

Alaska did produce 14 percent of all the oil from U.S. wells last year, but that's a far cry from all the "energy" produced in the U.S.

Alaska's share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.


And if by "supply" Palin meant all the energy consumed in the U.S., and not just produced here, then Alaska's production accounted for only 2.4 percent.
Analysis
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin sat down with ABC News' Charlie Gibson for an interview, part of which aired Sept. 11. In the exchange, the Alaska governor misstated a basic fact about her state's energy production:

Palin: Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.

It's simply untrue that Alaska produces anything close to 20 percent of the U.S. "energy supply," a term that is generally defined as energy consumed. That category includes power produced in the U.S. by nuclear, coal, hydroelectric dams and other means – as well as all the oil imported into the country.

Palin would have been correct to say that Alaska produces just over 14 percent of all the oil produced in the U.S., leaving out imports and leaving out other forms of power. According to the federal government's Energy Information Administration, Alaskan wells produced 263.6 million barrels of oil in 2007, or 14.3 percent of the total U.S. production of 1.8 billion barrels.

But Alaskan production accounts for only 4.8 percent of all the crude oil and petroleum products supplied to the U.S. in 2007, counting both domestic production and imports from other nations. According to EIA, the total supply was just over 5.5 billion barrels in 2007.

Furthermore, Palin said "energy," not "oil," so she was actually much further off the mark. According to EIA, Alaska actually produced 2,417.1 trillion BTUs of energy in 2005, the last year for which full state numbers are available. That's equal to just 3.5 percent of the country's domestic energy production.

And according to EIA analyst Paul Hess, that would calculate to only "2.4 percent of the 100,368.6 trillion BTUs the U.S. consumes."

Palin didn't make clear whether she was talking about Alaska's share of all the energy produced in the U.S. or all the energy consumed here. Either way, she was wrong.


McCain Gets It Wrong, Too


Sen. John McCain has also has used this inflated, incorrect figure. On Sept. 3, McCain told ABC News' Gibson:

McCain: Well, I think Americans are going to be very, very, very pleased. This is a very dynamic person. been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply.

McCain repeated the false figure more recently, in a September 11 interview with Portland, Maine, news station WCSH6.

Footnote: When we asked the McCain campaign where the 20 percent figure came from, we were referred to the Web site of the Resource Development Council for Alaska, Inc, a group that says it promotes development of Alaska's natural resources. It states:

Alaska Resource Development Council: Alaska's oil and gas industry has produced more than 16 billion barrels of oil and 6 billion cubic feet of natural gas, accounting for an average of 20 percent of the entire nation's domestic production.

This falls far short of supporting Palin's sweeping claim, however. It refers only to "oil and gas" production, not total energy. It refers only to production, not total consumption or supply. And the 20 percent figure is an "average" over many years, though the site does not say exactly how many. That makes it very much out of date, because Alaskan oil production has declined sharply in recent years. According to EIA figures Alaskan oil production has dropped 22 per cent in the most recent five years alone.

And in case you are wondering, Alaska produces even less of the nation's natural gas that it does of its oil. EIA figures show Alaska accounted for just 1.9 percent of total U.S. natural gas production during the six months ended in June 2008. And even that is dropping rapidly. The figure was 2.3 percent just two years earlier.

–by Justin Bank



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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:29 AM
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1. Gee! I thought "energy" was the ONE thing she knew. . .

At least that's what they've been pushing since it became so glaringly obvious that she knows nuttin' about nuttin' else!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:32 AM
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3. HAHA This is very distrurbing on many levels. It shows a complete
and utter misrepresentation ! Either she's a freakin liar or she doesn't even know what
her state is doing.
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joop Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:13 PM
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23. I vote both, Laura! pffft.
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Pete2069 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:38 AM
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41. What she knows is that Oil controls policies and people
Bush and Cheney has placed oil company personal all through
our government controlling our polices.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:30 AM
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2. kick!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:33 AM
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4. 5th rec...
...to the Greatest Page with ya...to show how again the Tundra Trash on the R ticket is a fucking liar.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:52 AM
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5. Fast jump to rec 11.
I am beginning to think the majority of Repug politicians are incapable of telling the truth about anything.

It is such a violation of trust, promotes cynicism, and alienates the people from their voice and duty as citizens.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 08:54 AM
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6. She does look kind of like Pinocchio in this pic.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:30 AM
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9. Thanks - I also did this one:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:00 PM
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15. very good -- you are so creative. I would love it if you did one
about McCain supporting the troops. This is the hugest misconception and
the polls show that everyone thinks he does care.

He was against the GI bill of Webb's. He voted NOT to mandate a minimum
on the times between redeployments to Iraq. He has voted against GI
pay raises. AND he voted against extra money to help with mental issues
when GIs returned. Hell, there's probably a hell of a lot more
- I found these on a simple search.

Maybe a pic of the soldiers and then all the bills he voted against?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:55 PM
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12. perfect
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:55 PM
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13. perfect
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #6
38. omg! lol.....thanks...eom! : )
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:06 AM
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7. Fuckin' redneck doesn't know the difference between "energy" and "oil" - she's qualified for what???
Saying 14% is "nearly 20%" is a bad enough exaggeration, but equating "energy" to "oil" just proves her "dumb as a stump" reputation. She's just an ignorant moron with a pretty face - I'm totally disgusted that we've been distracted by this bimbo.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:55 PM
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36. pageants....and that is it! n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #36
43. Is it time to vomit yet?
...or arm up for the upcoming civil war?

:puke:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:14 AM
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8. "she knows more about energy than anyone in the U.S."
actual McCain quote.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:27 PM
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27. Another reason to doubt John McCain's judgement. NT
NT
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:49 AM
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10. Palinocchio
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 10:03 AM
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11. I love it!
:rofl:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:58 PM
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19. Love it!
Palinocchio is my new favorite name for her.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:57 PM
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14. she got confused when she was visiting Iraq from another country
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:46 PM
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16. McPale states that, also... in that absolutely pathetic interview posted here recently...
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:11 PM
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17. 4.8 percent of all the crude oil and petroleum products supplied to the U.S. in 2007
You can't make this stuff up
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:23 PM
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18. Charlee didn't bother to correct her llies.
When she spewed lie after lie he didn't arrive with the facts that would prove that she was lying. The RWingers whined that he was unfairly grilling her. In fact, he did the opposite. He let her spew lies without follow up questions & allowed her to ramble on with her absurd answers.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:28 PM
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20. Maybe he was thinking it was his part to let her hang herself?
Then he wouldn't be accused of badgering. The wingnuts were saying the questions were totally
unfair. If he had followed up...they would have really played her as the victim.

I can't stand the guy -- but I am glad he did something to expose her.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:47 PM
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21. Maybe he just didn't have energy production data at his fingertips
I'll settle for what he did do -- he got her on the record on these points so that others can point out her laughable mistakes.

And he gets major props for the "Bush Doctrine" debacle.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #21
37. exactly. We take what we can get. He sucks. But, he doesn't
suck as bad as everyone else (at this moment) so we like him
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:51 PM
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22. Wow..you'd think they'd stop lieing after being caught so many times. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:20 PM
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24. Chocolate Rations are up and we have many missiles





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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:25 PM
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25. Palin is nothing but lipstick wearing BS. with $350.00 specs. give her a Bush script?
and she's good to go, unlike McCain
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 09:26 PM
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26. I recently heard that the US gets most of its oil from Canada
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 09:27 PM by SemperEadem
not the Middle East--that was a surprise.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 10:32 PM
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29. Canada and Mexico
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 10:34 PM by Maestro
I am almost sure of it.

Edit: Yep, I am correct with Saudia Arabia in a very close third.

Oil Imports
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:53 PM
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35. so, if that's true - why the hype about mid-east oil and the US
being slaves and pawns (ala 9-11) to the mideast? Is that all bullshit?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:29 PM
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44. Well Saudia Arabia is a close third
so there is money going there, but overall we should strengthen ties with Mexico and Canada. And yes, the "We need to be less dependent on ME oil" is bullshit to me. What we need to do is say, "We need to be the leader in developing new energy technologies."
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #35
47. rapaciousness and greed
plain and simple.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:21 PM
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46. thanks for that table!
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 04:22 PM by SemperEadem
That'll come in handy in this drill-drill-drill debate.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 10:00 PM
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28. Maybe I missed it but ...so Alaska produces 14%
of all oil wells in the US what % is actually distributed within the US vs shipped to other countries.

No one is asking the politicians this question. What % of all Oil manufactured in the US is exported? It makes sense to me that if we cut those exports and distribute within the US that would lower oil prices.

Am I wrong?
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 10:38 PM
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30. What's the difference beteen Judy Tenutta and Sarah Palin?
They both sound alike, but Judy knows more about foreign policy.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. wow - flash from the past. I have been trying to think of who Palin
sounds like -can not place it. people say the woman cop in Fargo.

You say Judy. Neither quite exactly the match I'm thinking about...
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:27 PM
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31. K&R
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:28 PM
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32. K&R
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:40 PM
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33. kcik and RECOMMENDED!!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:40 AM
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39. Lies on energy from the energy expert? Heavens, No !! //nt
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:43 AM
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40. KandR
She's going down....
Or as she would say: "goin'" ...or "gonna" go down...

peace~
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:50 AM
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42. My gosh...
can anyone believe anything that comes out of McCain/Palin's mouth? Do we even know they are telling us the truth that their names are actually John and Sarah?
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:41 PM
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45. Shouldn't you subtract the amount that is exported
Doesn't Alaska export most of it's oil? Alaska provides very little of the energy that the US consumes, much less than even the 2.4% mentioned in the article.
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Abugface Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:26 PM
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48. Is Keith Olbermann bankrupt yet?

He's donating a $100 to charity for every Palin lie - he's sure got guts (or a lot of money).
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:28 PM
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49. She lies like a liar, the big fat liar!
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