How Do Creationists Explain The Existence Of Dinosaurs?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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[GOTV]

1. lies planted by the devil to weaken your faith

[NC_Nurse]

2. Bill Hicks told us:

" To test your faith."

"Does anyone else have a problem with the idea that GOD might be FUCKIN' with our minds?"

[tnlurker]

3. That they all died in the flood

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

29. Oddly, they don't think that. Noah took two of EVERY creature

[Starry Messenger]

49. Missing the Ark

Robot Chicken:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbRCdkBzMOU&feature=related

MPK

[Peacetrain]

68. Actually they took 8 of every creatue..just two of the unclean

:)..

[independentpiney]

4. Easy, God created them the same time as man

Have you never seen the Flintstones? Creationists think it's a documentary. And as the poster above points out, they all died in the flood because they were too big to fit on the ark.
Hope that clears things up for you.

[nxylas]

78. What about the little ones?

How come they died out and elephants survived? I once asked a creationist how Noah rounded up both kangaroos and polar bears to put on the ark. He told me he'd get back to me, but never did.

(FWIW I believe most legends have a kernel of truth, and that the Noah story was probably based on a real incident in which a man built a boat to protect two of every domestic animal from a localized flood.)

[iamjoy]

5. A Few Theories

Dinosaurs were evil, so God killed them all

Dinosaurs were created when the other animals were, and have since died out (see above)

There were no dinosaurs, what scientists find was put there by God as a test.

[tanyev]

6. My church body is not a fundie denomination, but I did have a pastor

once who did not believe that dinosaurs existed. God put those bones in the ground as a puzzle, a little joke, you see. Funniest thing was that one of this pastor's young sons was absolutely obsessed with dinosaurs.

[Orangepeel]

7. "Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible"

I swear to someone else's god. I saw a fundie preacher on TV singing a children's song called "Behemoth was a dinosaur." Apparently, dinosaurs were around in Biblical times, it's the junk science carbon dating that's wrong.

[Coexist]

8. don't ask.. it will give you a headache and make your heart bleed for their ignorance.

[rug]

9. McCain needed a pet.

[Kookaburra]

14. hehehehe

Good one, Rug.

[alphafemale]

35. !!!!!!DUzy ALERT!!!!!!

:rofl:

[Curtland1015]

39. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Awesome! :rofl:

[KathieG]

59. LOL

:rofl:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

10. I've had extended discussions with them on that precise issue.

seriously, a fundie teacher (an expert on creationism) sat next to me on a long flight.

Dinosaurs still exist, they are simply hiding in caves in Africa, until the rapture comes. I kid you not.

They WERE mentioned their instruction manual, but they were called different things back then.

Given my radical atheism, it made for an interesting flight. What surprised him was that I knew his bible far better than he. In fact, I am trying to get a book published about the contradictions, lies, and bullshit that are sprinkled throughout ye olde and the gnu testaments. (About 1/3 of the book covers translation problems, from aramaic, to attic greek, the total lack of hebrew speakers when King James collected his scholars, and more. I really dug into how the book totally changed in the early 1500s because of church politics and open street warfare at Trent. Inerrant book, my ass.)

I don't think I convinced him. He was red-eyed, frustrated, and visibly pissed by the end of the flight, and kept on saying, it's faith man, you got to believe. Because it is the TRUTH!

[alphafemale]

37. Like that King James "gift"

"Thou shall not suffer a witch to live"

It was originally poisoner; of wells probably. Which actually makes sense considering the edge of life existence people would have had at the time.

Poisoning a well would pretty much have been genocide.

Though the bible openly praises genocide at other times...so

:shrug:

[coalition_unwilling]

47. You have no doubt heard this, but

might I suggest a quote to head up your chapter on King James:

"If English was good enough for Jesus, it ought to be good enough for the rest of us!"

Just a thought:)

[jcla]

73. But dinosaurs do exist

they are called birds.

I can see bats hiding in African Caves... sometimes big cats or other carnivore...even people but not too many dinos.

The Bible was not written by one person but by many. So contradictions are not surprising. (But I don't believe in the Bible is the word of God. Too many people have tampered with it over several thousand years.)

Good for you, antifaschits, hope you frustrated him and kept him foaming at the mouth. I just wonder whose 'truth' he was speaking about.

[stray cat]

11. With a theory - since none of us can explain with historic detail how evolution or creation occurred

[renie408]

17. Was there supposed to be a 'sarcasm' tag on that? n/t

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

31. probably not. Sigh.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

51. next time, please add the snark tag. heh, you had me going for a sec.

[Symarip]

12. Here:

[Patsy Stone]

16. LOL!

That's hi-larious. And: 2 Tone? :thumbsup:

[Symarip]

Yeah

I've been in a great many ska bands. I grew up on 2 tone, though I prefer 60's Skatalites traditional sounding material better (basically, all the bands The Specials/Madness/Etc covered).

[Patsy Stone]

36. Which would explain your name.

I, too, was weaned on 2 Tone, but I do love Desmond Dekker and other first wave bands. For the degree of difficulty, I'd have to go with Los Fabulosos Cadillacs. They're tight as hell, and they do it in Spanish. :)

Push Play: http://www.imeem.com/people/Vod3DO/music/kPIZ57UL/los_fabulosos_cadillacs_te_tirare_del_altar/

[RayOfHope]

46. LOL! Love the pterodactyl and volcano in the background n/t

[Poiuyt]

50. Jesus rode dinosaurs

[MNDemNY]

13. Explain? Where is your faith, Man?

Obviously it's just another one of god's "tests". You fail, even bringing it up, enjoy your extended stay in hell.

[renie408]

15. Yeah, I always want to ask a fundie,"Where do you think all those FOSSIL fuels come from?"

[ret5hd]

19. You believe FF's came from dinosaurs?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Here

"Fossil fuels do not really come from Dinosaur fossils; most comes from decaying vegetation(plants) and the by-product of microbial activity. Over a VERY long time the organic matter gets buried under the ground by the build-up of sediment. As it gets buried it slowly gets digested by microbes, as well as compressed and cooked from the heat. The organic matter gets broken down into several basic components. The oily component of the plant and animal matter gets released. The oils are driven back up through the rocks by the heat. Most oils will slowly dissipate but if there is an impervious layer of sediment above the oil, (most of the time it is a clay like layer), it gets trapped and collects. The oil companies try to find these trapped pockets of oil when they drill."


-sigma

[MNDemNY]

24. But, in only 5000 years???????????????????

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Who Put A Time Period On The Process?

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. More

We'll get to the results of that little treasure hunt in a second. But first let's look at this skeptically: what makes mainstream geologists so all-fired sure that petroleum is of biological origin? The idea seems bizarrely complicated on first encounter. Contrary to wide belief that dinosaurs were centrally involved, oil is thought to have derived mainly from single-celled plankton that flourished tens to hundreds of millions of years ago in nutrient-rich environments, such as lakes and the shallow seas above continental shelves. Upon their demise, the plankton sank to the bottom and were buried in sediment before their remains, rich in hydrocarbons, could decompose. Chemical and biological processes then converted the plankton bits into a waxy substance called kerogen, some of which over time was forced down deep enough that its temperature rose to between 65 and 150 degrees Celsius. This was the "oil window"--the range of conditions under which slow roasting and a bit of catalytic basting could rearrange the organic ingredients into crude oil. (The heat and pressure needed to create diamonds, since you asked, are much higher.) The petroleum then migrated by complex means to reservoirs where it was sheltered until humans could pump it out. I personally don't doubt this scenario, but you can see where the idea that it would produce two to four trillion barrels of commercial-grade crude might move some to think: Get out.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2652/did-oil-really-come-from-dinosaurs

[MNDemNY]

41. Why god, of course. Silly, the earth is only about 5000 years old, duh.

[barack the house]

18. We gotta cut this out when they believe in dinosaurs is inconsequetial>

beating on them for their beliefs is not a vote winner. What we should be doing right here is talking to them in their language because of a mass prayer movement had a reverse effect and brought it to the RNC convention. They consider carefully who their guy backs. We have to deal in their world I'm not say become believers but work in their rality a little, then we can do this.

[OwnedByFerrets]

33. Letting citizens know that they believe the earth is ONLY

6000 yrs old IS our responsibility. It shows what idiots they are. It shows how removed from reality they are. She should be hammered on this in every interview. She wont be, but should.

[ret5hd]

20. They were placed by God as a test...and if you fall for this trick God sends you to hell...

And do you know why? Because he loves you.

[grantcart]

53. Ok now that is the funniest thing I have ever read at DU

Christ my side is hurting - may have broke a rib


You will be hearing from my lawyer.

[sufrommich]

55. lol. nt

[votetastic]

22. Humans and dinosaurs live together in harmony

But there wasn't enough room for them on Noah's ark

[JBoy]

38. There were dinosaurs on Noah's ark. Didn't work out too well though

[City Lights]

23. Straight from creationism.org:

DINOSAURS - Every natural history museum in the world today displays large dinosaur models. Their defensive teeth, spikes and claws are often shown extended. As evidence of the prior existence of these kinds of creatures we have a myriad of bones found on multiple continents, footprints buried in sedimentary layers and ... legends. All over the world people remember the dangerous dragons of old. But they slowly went extinct. Men feared and hated them. Stories of ancient encounters with dinosaurs/dragons are found in China, Thailand, including other parts of Asia, and in Roman, Russian, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, North, South, and Central America, and across Africa too. Are we so much smarter and more academically inclined than all of our ancestors that we should reject all of their historical records - just to prop up temporary evolutionary theory?

Carbon-14 dating of carbon buried in the same layer with dragon bones helps to confirm that they are really only thousands of years old. The myth-ions and myth-ions of years never happened; only in the past 200 years has it become fashionable to forget our true ancient history (of thousands of years) in favor of God-hating (or: "bumbling-inherently-weak-god") evolution. Evolution requires the belief in long epochs of supposed time and chance improvements.

Dragons and sea monsters have become mostly extinct prior to our modern era. By the way, there is evidence that they grew much larger prior to the Great Flood. Just as humans lived much longer (Genesis records ages of some people to have reached over 900 years!) so a reptile ... living much longer then could have grown much larger before the Flood - which is indeed what we see in the fossil record of the pre-Flood world.

Humans and lions live on Earth at the same time today. But we live in different places. Porpoises will ram sharks that come into their waters. So naturally then they also live in different places - while living at the same time. Why couldn't humans and dinosaurs have lived at the same time? They'd probably keep mostly separate and then get buried separately if there was a catastrophe, but this could be theoretically possible, correct? There are at least two places known today with human and dinosaur tracks in the same sedimentary layer: one is in Paluxy, Texas, the other in Eastern Turkmenistan. Plus we have the legends, from all inhabited continents mind you, which should not be automatically discounted. (text by P.A.)

http://www.creationism.org/topbar/dinosaurs.htm

[goodboy]

62. Why no human fossils mixed in with dinos? (nt)

[faithfulcitizen]

26. DUH, haven't you heard of the Flintstones???

:think:




:P

[Politicub]

28. McCain was a POW!

In what respect, Charlie?

[chitty]

30. I talked to one the other day.

I said that with scientific instruments we can date rocks and the like to be millions of years old.

You know what he said to me?

"They could be wrong, machines aren't always correct"

How do you reason with that kind of logic?

[Pisces]

44. It is a circular argument with fundies. One told me that you can not put intellect above God.

They actually think it is bad to be too smart. It is frustrating trying to talk to a fundie because it is never what they think or do, it is what God instructs them through the bible. Therefore they have no accountability to there actions or words.

The scary part is that while many of us have poo poohed the creationist they have grown in numbers due to home schooling fundies. It is insane how many children are being raised never hearing of Darwin!! Watch the movie "Flock of Dodos" and it outlines all of their arguments and answers to the dinosaur question, and carbon dating etc. Don't expect it to enlighten anyone because there is no rational explanation.

[quaker bill]

32. There are a mixture of things held

but all in all, they do not find them to be a problem. There are a myriad of things that would bring the entire theory into question if one were to pay attention to them or consider them credible. You and I might find such unreconciled matters to be a concern, on the large, they don't.

[sarge43]

34. Evil secular scientists lie to tempt the faithful. Honest. n/t

[rucky]

40. We lived side-by-side with them 6000 years ago.

Before they were wiped out in the flood.

I guess they couldn't fit on the Ark.

[bronxiteforever]

42. Man lived with Dinosaurs and tamed them with Milk-Bones

:evilgrin:

[Starry Messenger]

43. A liberal conspiracy.

Isn't everything?

MPK

[JackBeck]

45. My SIL and BIL (Baptists) told their children

that God put the fossils there to test their belief in Him.

[tsuki]

48. The sixth grade teacher here said that Satan planted them to

test their belief in God.

[iiibbb]

58. That's funny... Bush tests mine.

[chitty]

61. that's pretty funny!

[sufrommich]

52. The point to Fred and Barney as proof

that man and dinosaur coexisted.

[depakid]

54. That's the attraction of creationism!

You don't have to explain or critically think about anything!

[AtomicKitten]

56. According to Tina Fey, they rode the dinosaurs to church.

[RagAss]

57. The Freakin Flintstones !!!!

[AnnieBW]

60. Dinosaurs lived with Humans.

Didn't you see "The Flintstones"?

[TNMOM]

63. my fundie mom-in-law says there were no dinosaurs

she says the dinos were mythical creatures.:crazy:

[Ikonoklast]

64. Dinosaurs live to this very day

And anyone that says otherwise is a fool.

I have proof:




AARRRRRRGGHHH!!

[Hepburn]

65. According to TBS's Jan Crouch...they were on the Arc with Noah...

...:rofl:

[ibegurpard]

69. wow, that was some ark

eom

[moxie_1]

66. Like they "explain" everything else:

Covering their ears, closing their eyes, and repeating whatever some nutcase told them.

No group of people are more resistant to science or logic.

[BlooInBloo]

67. Like anyone gives a fuck what idiots say.

[Raine]

70. Dinosaurs are faked...

I actually had one tell me that....dinosaurs never REALLY exisited. :eyes:

[Awsi Dooger]

71. Everything you need to know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYDiPizDIs

[PerfectSage]

72. Creationists say that McCain is a dinosaur that God created to lead them astray.

[kiranon]

74. There is a religious coloring book with Jesus riding a dinosaur.

That's how they explain it. They have no problem mixing dinosaurs and religion. If you don't think about things, it's easy to mix it all up into one historical period. It's up to the rest of us to figure out how to get through to these folks that they are wrong about history, wrong about religion and wrong about politics. Good luck. (Saw the coloring book on another site not sure where.)

[dchill]

75. Duh! - Ponies for creationist-cave-kids!

:shrug:

[Stop Cornyn]

76. They did not fit on Noah's Arc

[BlooInBloo]

77. Don't forget the Creationism Museum!!!

:rofl:

http://www.creationmuseum.org/

[XRubicon]

79. The Flintstones