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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:07 PM
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Bloomberg Report:: McCain campaign misrepresenting crowd size estimates
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 01:10 PM by grantcart
At first they criticized Obama for getting huge crowds and now they lie about the size of their own

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a1J0tfV3XJYs&refer=politics

McCain-Palin Crowd-Size Estimates Not Backed by Officials




Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming.

McCain aide Kimmie Lipscomb told reporters on Sept. 10 that an outdoor rally in Fairfax City, Virginia, drew 23,000 people, attributing the crowd estimate to a fire marshal.

Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson said his office did not supply that number to the campaign and could not confirm it. Wilson, in an interview, said the fire department does not monitor attendance at outdoor events.

In recent days, journalists attending the rallies have been raising questions about the crowd estimates with the campaign. In a story on Sept. 11 about Palin's attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited by the campaign.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:11 PM
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1. LOL
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 01:12 PM by MPK


Whoops! You changed the story
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:12 PM
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2. A STD check (lol)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:13 PM
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6. I went with my husband I'll have you know! :)
MPK
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:06 PM
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21. Sad..... Obama has really gotten inside their heads
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:12 PM
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3. Keep this K'd
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:12 PM
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4. McCain can't count houses or crowd sizes.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:13 PM
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5. This is why he wants to do events with Obama...
...so he can take credit for the HUGE crowds that Obama attracts.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:18 PM
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12. excellent snark!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:14 PM
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7. Isn't there anything they DON'T LIE about?
That is the question. :eyes:
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:14 PM
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8. REPUBS ARE PROPAGANDA, ALWAYS
:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:15 PM
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9. Wow. Why is McCain in the doghouse with Bloomberg?
Not to say I'm not pleased. I am. I am very surprised, however.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:16 PM
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10. 8,000 vs. 23,000
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 01:16 PM by ProSense
Yeah, the RW is really motivated.

:sarcasm:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:17 PM
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11. I KNEW that was the case. NO ONE can convince me that Mooselini
can draw those kinds of crowds.

The fix is just bigger all the time.

Dominionist America. We are fucked.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:56 PM
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18. well but they forgot that crowds are outside and actually can be counted lol
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:00 PM
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19. Yep - we have people that can count higher than 6000, for instance.....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:19 PM
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13. Good- so if we translate this into supporters/voters,
instead of 23,000 McCain gets 8,000?

I know it's not that cut and dried or across the board, but it's an indication, right? That there aren't as many rabid followers as they'd like us to believe?

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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:19 PM
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14. The emperor has no clothes... the republicans have no shame.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:20 PM
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15. No worries. They balance it out by underestimating Obama's crowds.
:mad:
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:23 PM
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16. just like there were 50,000 Harleys at Sturgis
:eyes:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 01:43 PM
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17. have you ever been to Sturgis - that number is probably accurate


all the dentists and accountants drag their trailers to the outskirts of Sturgis and then ride in on their Harleys lol
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:14 PM
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22. maybe over the course of the week, but definitely not in McCain's crowd of around 5000 people
10 Harleys for every person?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:39 PM
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23. oh no besides it wasn't a McCain event it was an event that he interloped into
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:23 PM
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34. before Palin, he had to glom onto whatever was available
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:02 PM
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20. They're not lying about Sarah being a Pit Bull
Her policies are the pits and she feeds us a lot of bull.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:41 PM
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24. they are pathetic.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:43 PM
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25. I will never fathom how they have any credibility left at this point.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:36 PM
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28. it has been an astonishing decline in credibility and honor
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:25 PM
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26. K & R, I'm not surprised n/t
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:28 PM
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27. LOL (nm)
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d.amber Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:48 PM
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29. This is too funny n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:52 PM
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30. 8 thousand idiots are bad
enough.

Doesn't mccain care that's he's branded a liar and a whiner?

Whining about Obama's crowds and then lying about his own:silly: :+
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:13 PM
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31. Mc Cain; I didn't say 23,000. I said 23,000-ish
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:31 PM
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32. rounding to the nearest lie
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:32 PM
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33. These Unamericans are sooo man-made!
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