OBAMA TALKS HURRICANE, BASHES MCCAIN - first read

[Ichingcarpenter]

-- Obama, who canceled a planned appearance on Saturday Night Live tonight out of concern over Hurricane Ike, asked supporters gathered in a park here Saturday morning to keep storm victims in their thoughts and be prepared to help.

He then, however, went on to deliver a sustained assault against McCain as the opposite of change. Comparing their plans on taxes, health care, education, national security and energy and warning a crowd the campaign put at 8,000, citing the fire chief, not to "be fooled" by McCain and Palin's promises of reform.

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This part is about the Hurricane and what our campaign is doing about it
so I will let our readers read that


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John McCain doesn't get it. He doesn't know what's going on in your lives," he said, repeating a phrase that has become a new favorite since a Sept. 11th service forum featuring both candidates. "How else could you say the definition of rich is when you make $5 million, so that somebody making $4 million must be struggling. How else could you have an education adviser who admitted in the New York times that, you know, John McCain hasn't paid much attention to education policy? Or a health-care advisor who said that we don't really have uninsured because everybody can go to the emergency room. They don't get it. They don't understand what is happening in your day-to-day lives."

The McCain campaign sent out a statement blasting Obama for what it called personal attacks against the Arizona senator.

“It says a lot about Barack Obama's judgment that while his campaign canceled his appearance on Saturday Night Live and his running mate stayed home, Obama went ahead and delivered a series of scathing personal attacks,” McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds wrote. “Today's attacks mark a new low from Barack Obama.”

When asked which attacks were "personal," another spokesperson, Andrea Saul, pointed to Obama's statement that McCain had "no commitment to public education."

Saul wrote that McCain had attended the Naval Academy and his kids went to public schools and said it was "outlandish to insinuate that Sen. McCain doesn't care about public education."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/13/1393418.aspx


OBAMA HAS GOT THEM ON THE RUN! MCCAIN'S ANSWER WAS LAME!!!

[yellerpup]

1. The classic bully's response.

"You're not supposed to hit me when I hit you first!" At least, that's what Mikey told me when I was 5 and he was beating me up every day.

[NotThisTime]

4. Pretty much... UHHH Poor Baby!

[yellerpup]

22. McCain doesn't know how to deal with issues.

Two words. Bo. Ring. What an asshat!

[Imagevision]

2. And where was Mccain & Bush when katrina hit?

[SeattleGirl]

3. What bullcrap.

Of course, the McSame campaign is going to say that kind of crap regardless of what Obama says.

[holiday]

6. I'm getting real tired of McCain acting so "Omg that is a new low from

Obama" please... McCain is running a sleazy campaign for one. Two, this is an election.. does he think Obama is going to go around America talking about how wonderful Senator McCain is???

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. It would be almost as ridiculous as claiming that you just

did a personal attack on me by responding to this thread.




I think this is a turning point because it shows they are just getting desperate
in their responses now.

[MrModerate]

5. Another subtle error by McCain and Co.:

By acknowledging the "attacks" are drawing blood, they're weakening their own "Obama is a pussy" meme for voters who might be predisposed to think that.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. Totally a weak defensive stance

without intellectual merit. McCain has no plan for education.

[BrainStorm]

8. "John McCain doesn't get it. He doesn't know what's going on in your lives,"

While this is very true, it might a losing battle as a meme this time around.

McCain/Palin, as a male/female ticket is like a Daddy/Mommy dichotomy. In the family, Daddy can be clueless as long as Mommy knows what's going on in your life, and I think most people feel that Sarah Palin can really sympathize with the average person's life. (We know this is bullcrap, but many voters respond to archtypes, not substance.)

With a male/male ticket, it becomes more important that the President knows what is going on in your life.

What I think is that Biden should go after Palin and say "Palin does not understand what is going on in your lives." Show how she is really a politician and not a "real", "normal" person.

[HughMoran]

13. P* is not, I repeat, NOT the candidate

McCain is the Presidential candidate - the "mommy/daddy" supposition makes no sense to me.

If McCain can't run the country, no VP is going to make him do it better. How pathetic would someone have to be to think that the VP is going to pull the puppet strings for 4 years - that's not how this country is run. Cheney was quite the exception, but even he lurked in the background for the most part.

[BrainStorm]

18. I understand. But the voters don't seem to.

That's the problem. Don't yell at me. I'm not the one who is voting that way. But most people vote emotionally, not logically.

[HughMoran]

19. We'll see how they ultimately vote

The shine is wearing off and all that's left is the actual senile candidate who can't stop his running mate from lying 24/7.

[BrainStorm]

20. I fervently hope you are right.

I can't help being cynical tonight. Sorry.

[HughMoran]

21. I was cynical 2 nights ago

Things have leveled off now and it's time for Obama to put this old geezer away.

[BrainStorm]

23. Sometimes I just want to kick Obama in the butt and say "Attack!"

And then, I have a beer and try to forget about it.

[Ichingcarpenter]

26. Bullshit...... I met a woman today that was gonna vote the ticket

because Palin was on it. She was a Hillary supporter

I changed that after talking to her.

[stillcool]

27. I don't know what voters..

you are talking about. Sarah Palin is freaking people out. I don't know if the Republicans she is scaring the shit out of will vote for Obama, but they sure aren't voting for McCain. The people out there are not nearly as stupid as the people in here would like me to believe.

[Ichingcarpenter]

28. My story is true.. take it or leave it

She was a big Hillary supporter and gets her news from Fox and CNN, no internet.

It took me two hours to calm down after talking to her and giving her the facts

She is X military and Black.

[stillcool]

30. I don't doubt you..

I just don't think that this person is in the majority. I know how uninformed so many people are, but think that most..if they knew the facts would either stay home or vote for Obama. My faith in people goes up and down like a yo-yo, and it's alot easier losing hope, than it is getting it. We have so little time left, that I just have to believe that we can do this.

[Ichingcarpenter]

31. I changed two voters today

One, going to the car at my condo talking to the Hillary fan.
The next at the dog park talking to another woman who also
gets her news from the wrong places.

Two
The people at the dog park like to hear my opinions and facts.
I also give them references on what to google to confirm the facts themselves.

I have never been proven wrong on the economy, news or what is what and they have come to respect that.

I changed another one that liked Palin but didn't like McCain and bought into their bullshit.

[stillcool]

34. That is something...a two-fer!

it's amazing what a little information does. I think that the media, going overboard the way that it has is actually helping. It used to be when I talked about the media people would look at me like I was paranoid, or a conspiracy freak. But they have so tarnished themselves that pointing out the lies is like shooting fish in a barrel.

[carpe diem]

32. Black woman, former Hillary supporter, voting for McCain/Palin

because of Palin?...that makes no sense to me unless she just hates men and wants any ticket that has a vagina on it. Seriously...I'm not doubting she exists, but she is in a very, very, very small minority.

[Ichingcarpenter]

36. It blew my mind! She does have a lot of friends and entertains many

X- military enlisted retiree spouses, which I can hear when I walk by, so yes, she is influential in her sphere.
She is a 'Law and order' type person. She shops at the base.


She and I had conversations about Arnold and she has worn anti-Arnold T-shirts
I've dealt with her on Condo Board and with the arson that affected both of our units
plus the litigation that involved the corruption of the board.
I know her, she is uninformed, conservative but changes with good information.


I gave her the low down on the Politics of Palin, with not hiring blacks in Alaska, her religionist
views on Abortion and even questioned her on ............ 'I can't believe a black person, let alone
a woman, would even consider voting for that Ticket".

She said she never heard any of this information before, but would have to reevaluate her stance.
and may not even vote.

She still thanks Obama is a Muslim.
Church and state is still strong in this town.

[BrainStorm]

40. "Hates men"? Is that your first thought?

Paranoid much? :tinfoilhat:

[Cha]

10. Rec'd! Here's Obama from Political Videos..

talking about "Ike" and the people who are devastated..

ultraist (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-13-08 05:50 PM
Original message

"Obama on Hurricane Ike: During difficult times, Americans come together"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x189081

[debbierlus]

11. Wield the truth, Sen Obama. And, let the babies cry

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. ZAP! Comixs ------ the big baby toon

[PCIntern]

15. Where's Captain Pissgums?

Oh yes...he's running for office!

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. He held his breath as a child if he didn't get his way until he past out

[Arkana]

12. It seems like the McCain campaign can't come up with a

good rebuttal--just "NO U" for everything.

[jefferson_dem]

17. "personal attacks against the Arizona senator"?

You know what, McCreep, you pitiful lying old bastard. You can fuck the right off!

[samuraiguppy]

24. GOBAMA! GOBIDEN!

It makes me SOO proud to see you hitting them hard!

[crazy_vanilla]

25. wow, that's what "personal attack" meant

and I was calling it telling the truth


Go Go Obama:yourock:

[BlackmanX]

29. One of my teachers was a yellow dog Hillary supporter

She considered mccain but was so pissed off about his statements about public education in his convention speech. She wasn't warm to Obma until I showed her a link to his education plan. Now at least she'll be open to Obama because she said that she didn't want to vote for a repub.

[BlackmanX]

33. Balls, Balls and more Balls

It's pretty bold for Obama to go after those 2 frauds after a hurricane. He's serious now mcshit better be on guard cuz this is not going to be his week

[quantass]

35. .

[jillan]

37. "A new low"

Haha - they say the same exact thing everytime Obama or Biden attack.

[davidpdx]

38. I can't tell you how satisfying it will be when we put

McPalin down on election night.

[nc4bo]

39. Dishonorable and unworthy.

The Obama campaign responded quickly, e-mailing this statement from Press Secretary Bill Burton: “We will take no lectures from John McCain who is cynically running the sleaziest and least honorable campaign in modern Presidential campaign history. His discredited ads with disgusting lies are running all over the country today.

He runs a campaign not worthy of the office his is seeking."

Amen and I hope the keep chipping away at the facade.

p.s. - just saw that "same old" "not ready to lead" Mccain ad - :puke:

[freespirit5]

41. The mess in Texas is Bush/McCains fault

it is