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Sat Sep-13-08 09:17 PM
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Where the F are the 527s ???? 53 days left |
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Come on, people, Obama is being swiftboated and our 527s seem to be silent. Please tell me they will react. Enough with turning the other cheek.
I wonder if they have any plans at all. There is so much to reveal about McCain and Pailin, they are certainly not lacking in material.:shrug:
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:19 PM
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1. I've seen one the last few days about McCan't and all the lobbyists who are running his |
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campaign. It was a good one.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:17 PM
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33. That was from the Obama campaign.... |
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...if you mean this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHvb4O_bkooWe should donate to Obama-Biden to help them run ads about the real McCain.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:19 PM
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2. I've heard rumblings about Obama turning them loose. |
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He has kept them under wraps, up to this point, because he thought McCain would run an honorable campaign. That didn't go so well.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:21 PM
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5. I heard the same, but I'm still waiting |
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Obama has been really honorable, but he should've known McCain fights dirty. I am afraid we are running out of time.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:23 PM
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8. I've heard that they are on the way, too... I must admit that Obama's recent |
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comments asking which country is McLame putting first was right on the money and exactly the kind of message that needs to be delivered. They should make an ad out of that particular speech; it was awesome.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:33 PM
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17. I agree with you 100% |
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that speech nails McLame. It would make a fantastic commercial.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:23 PM
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9. No it hasn't . Maybe Obama is saving his silver bullets until we get closer to the election. |
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The only problem with that it gives McCain a good opportunity to paint a false potrait of Obama in voters' minds - which could prove difficult to overcome later on down the line.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:20 PM
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3. He unleashed them 3 days ago - it takes time to make an effective ad |
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Relax, the ads are coming!
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:17 PM
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34. He unleashed them days ago, but prior to that |
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he asked them not to get involved. So do they have any money?
He had better have a plan.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:20 PM
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37. MoveOn asked me for $250, so they sure could use some money! |
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I plan on giving as much as I can afford.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:20 PM
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4. I'm confident they're in production and THIS CLOSE to being released. |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:19 PM
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36. Why are you confident? Do you know something or just |
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hopeful? I'm getting nervous, which is so not like me!
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:14 AM
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43. No inside info (sorry!). |
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Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 10:16 AM by gateley
It's just that when THEY come out with something devastating we all begin hollering that we need to address this -- get tougher, etc. And then, a day or two later, Obama comes out with a new spot which temporarily appeases us. Until the next time. :7
It seems like we expect them to instantaneously fight back (like we can do, here on the blogs), but in real life, it takes time. They have to decide what to do, then implement it, buy the air time, etc.
I'm partially trying to reassure myself, too, so I understand your anxiety. :pals:
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Sun Sep-14-08 05:54 PM
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44. My anxiety is mostly gone. |
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It generally doesn't last long. Once I get away from the Internet and remind myself how smart and savvy Obama is, and how cagey he can be, I always realize that he knows what he's doing and he has a strategy even if the rest of us are in it.
Of course, McLiar got a bump from his convention -- everyone always does -- and his went a little further because of Palin. But she's a novelty, but she is truly only loved by the evangelical nutjobs on the extreme right. The rest of the Republicans -- the ones who are actually intellient and a little closer to sanity than the evangelicals -- were probably excited by her at first, but now that her record, her lies and her lack of knowledge is coming to light, I think they are realizing that McCain made a huge error in judgement picking her. It takes a little time for this type of realization to settle in.
I think they were so caught in the excitement of seeing the party pull ahead, and the excitement of a new, fresh face on the ticket who energized the base, they weren't as quick to criticize as they otherwise might have been. I think that is changing for many of them now.
As for the Independents -- they surely can't be stupid enough to buy into the plethora of exposed lies being peddled by McCain and Palin. We just need to give it a short time to sink in. Things are already looking up and I'm feeling much better today.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:22 PM
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6. In the battleground states where they'll matter |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:22 PM
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7. Your title reminds me of one of the greatest DU posts ever from a few weeks back....... |
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"WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE MODERATORS !"
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:29 PM
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that was a classic....
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:27 PM
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I've actually been watching TV. And waiting.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:26 PM
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11. My question is, when does Biden get a sit down with an interviewer? |
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I understand that Palin was introducing herself with Charlie Gibson, but I would love to have Joe sit down for a prime time interview, and discuss the topics that concern the country.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:06 PM
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:12 PM
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29. I agree with you, but you'd think the media would try to even things out....nt |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:28 PM
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13. They're already kinda starting up-- the DOW ad about the aerial hunting for one thing |
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It'll take a bit but as we all can profess from personal experience, the MSM will be slow on the uptake. I'm pretty sure that there's plenty of stuff behind the scenes we don't even know about.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:32 PM
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15. yep, I guess I should calm down |
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The thing is that I live in a red state (TX), and maybe they will decide that it would be a waste of money to run them here.
And yet, one never knows, there are many many of us democrats here. Also I have talked to a lot of undecideds who may need something like a 527 ad to open their eyes and help them make a decision.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:34 PM
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18. Yeah, you probably wont see many ads in TX |
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Just like I won't see many in California.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:17 PM
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32. having moved from WA to TX |
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I have missed the overwhelmingly democratic public opinion. I envy you for living in a blue state and not having to deal with closed-minded right wingers as much.
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Sun Sep-14-08 02:23 AM
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42. Don't envy me too much |
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I lived in TX for a number of years, so I've gone through that hell already ;)
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:27 PM
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39. Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund is actually a 501(c)(4) , |
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...but the ads they're running are similar to what 527s run, and both 501(c)(4)s and 527s accept soft money (unlimited donations per person). http://www.defendersactionfund.org/about_us/index.html
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:31 PM
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I wasn't familiar with 501s
The truth needs to come out and I understand that the campaign needs to rise above and stay away from it, 'cause they won't be cut as much slack as McShame's campaign. But the rest of us can speak out and tell the truth about this guy and his sidekick.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:44 PM
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41. Ah, I am corrected then. |
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:32 PM
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I will also call them to ask them when
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:53 PM
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23. Sunday, September 21st, we're organizing hundreds of "MoveOn for Obama" calling parties .... |
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Sunday, September 21st, we're organizing hundreds of "MoveOn for Obama" calling parties
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MoveOn members in your area will be eager to help, but they need somewhere to gather.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:58 PM
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:06 PM
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26. Are you going to have a party? |
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:shrug:
I'll probably go to one.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:13 PM
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It will be super exciting to meet other like-minded people and be able to do something hands-on for the campaign.
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:35 PM
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19. Timing, key word - Obama can accomplish more in the last 10-12 days then |
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wasting money now, He already is only 2 points in back of McBush, I have no doubt Obama will landslide Palin
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:53 PM
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22. he should start early |
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The earlier and more consistent, the better. 10-12 days before the election may be too late with voters' minds already set. I still remember the 2004 election, though I've tried hard to forget it.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:04 PM
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25. DFA Is Running One With a Vet Who Served With McAin't |
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:10 PM
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28. do you know if/where it can be seen online? |
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I would love to see it. I think McCain was not the perfect war hero every republican wants to make him out to be. The boy has anger management and honesty issues.
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Sat Sep-13-08 10:14 PM
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Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 10:17 PM by AndyTiedye
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38. any chance you could post the democracyforamerica link as a separate thread? |
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