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Palin asset for Republicans in U.S. rural vote
Reuters ^ | September 12, 2008 | Carey Gillam

Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:16:50 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

KANSAS CITY, Missouri-Missouri corn farmer Phil Vogler doesn't need to listen to any more campaign speeches or see more political ads to know who he will support in November's U.S. presidential election.

Vogler's vote is going to Republican presidential nominee John McCain. The farmer cites as a key reason for his newly found enthusiasm not McCain's record but his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

"She helps. She is probably more conservative than McCain is," said 38-year-old Vogler, a self-described conservative who farms 2,000 acres in northwest Missouri. "She'll be good on the economy."

Only weeks ago, rural America's 60 million voters were considered largely up for grabs as assorted economic woes focused attention on a need for "change" - the central theme of the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

But political observers now say the mood may be shifting in favour of Republicans following McCain's selection of the 44-year-old Palin as the nominee for vice president and the party's own agent of change.

The first-term governor's conservative anti-abortion, pro-gun views, along with her tough-talking complaints about government excess and her family life in a small Alaska town, is endearing her to many rural voters.

"She is a phenomenon and people are paying attention," said Dee Davis, president of the Centre for Rural Strategies in Whitesburg, Kentucky. "It's changed the dynamic for the moment for sure."

The centre is conducting a poll on how well the candidates are appealing to those living outside U.S. cities and suburbs and hopes to have fresh data within two weeks, Davis said. "Nobody is happy with the way the country is going. And early on, we saw that really favouring Obama," said Davis. "I don't know that is true now."


(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2008; alreuters; election; electionpresident; elections; mccain; mccainpalin; obama; palin; palinnation; ruralvote; sarahpalin
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1 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:16:51 PM by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Landslide



2 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:19:43 PM by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes, although the news may be encouraging, why would anyone want to believe anything that Reuters has to say, beneficial or otherwise. It’s time to start considering where this ‘news’ comes from in my opinion.



3 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:19:57 PM by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She helps. She is probably more conservative than McCain is," said 38-year-old Vogler, a self-described conservative who farms 2,000 acres in northwest Missouri.
As much as this shows how Strong her support is among conservatives, I think the underling agenda of the story is to try and paint her as someone those "hayseed hicks" support.




4 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:21:17 PM by chaos_5 (http://www.cafepress.com/chaos_5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Very true. In fact, I think she’ll especially be an asset among rural voters in the northern tier states.



5 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:21:50 PM by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, I’ll say this much, if the non Urban Areas go to Palin/McCain, or start swinging that way, there is no way Obamao/Biden can bring them back.

Obamao has been campaigning for 18 months now, there is nothing he possibly could say or do to return them to the fold, in fact, all he can do is drive whatever support he has further away.

Sarah Palin was a earthquake and there is no way to go back and stop a earthquake from happening, God Love her family though, they have targets on their backs for the next 52 days.



6 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:22:08 PM by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In Missouri, where unemployment rose to its highest level in 17 years at 6.4 percent in July, the Illinois senator's campaign has 40 campaign offices, 27 of them in rural communities, compared to McCain's nine.
This is another interesting line. What are they trying to say, Obama cares more about employing people during hard times?


7 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:24:00 PM by chaos_5 (http://www.cafepress.com/chaos_5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Power !



8 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:25:12 PM by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yessir, them rubes Cleatus, Dorkus and Emanuale need to quite cling’in to them guns and bibles and come on over to the comunitee-organizin side o’the street!



9 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:26:31 PM by Jagman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Conservatism wins elections, every time it is tried!

It would be nice if the RINO’s, other entrenched congress critters, and so-called blue-blood republicans would figure that out some day. They were too dense to figure it out after the Reagan era, and now they have been given another example in process, since the pick of the conservative Sarah Palin by McRino.



10 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:29:27 PM by webschooner (McWhatshisname/Palin 2008 !!)
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To: P-Marlowe
First impression are so important. People are seeing Sarah and saying “yeah, I can go with that.” I know I did.



11 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:29:46 PM by shteebo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The NRA is preparing to mail a flyer out to over 4 million members with Obama’s votes against gun rights over his years in political office.

I am hoping those NRA members receiving this information will use it to educate those friends and relatives they have around them.



12 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:31:37 PM by HD1200
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To: P-Marlowe
I predicted at the Convention (to a reporter, I might add) that I expected another "Reagen Landslide 48 victory!"
Today, I'm even further convinced that what with all the Obama-mania crazed staffers taking pot shots everywhere at Palin and MSM talking snobs on TV, Radio, etc. are driving the heretofore undecided, uninvolved voters, to the McCain/Palin ticket (I must add, they are coming our way because of Palin and inspite of the snobbish elite who declare that she's unprepared and unworthy of the job, especially those lib Hillary snots who hate a woman who really does make it on her own, loves her husband and kids and never views her voters as anything but people like her!

The one group that I've yet to hear lampooned by the media are the union members who hunt, fish and bowl and possibly take their families camping on vacation.

This group must be truly in love with Sarah!


13 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:31:42 PM by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: P-Marlowe
Those of us that “cling to guns & religion” are a sleeping giant and we have now been awakened.



14 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:33:07 PM by HD1200
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Besides the Bradley/Wilder/Gantt effect, pollsters have not been as good at polling rural voters as urban and suburban voters. Of course Obama is hoping for young voters to turn out better than they have historically and to have cell phone only voters who are not measured by the polls. Still, I suspect the rural voters favoring McCain/Palin by a greater percentage means Obama will not get as high a percentage of the actual votes as he gets in polling.



15 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:33:34 PM by JLS (Do you really want changec being two guys from the majority of Congress with a 9% approval rating?)
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To: padre35
Sarah Palin was a earthquake and there is no way to go back and stop a earthquake from happening, God Love her family though, they have targets on their backs for the next 52 days.
Oh no ... unfortunately, the Palins will be target rich for Libs indefinitely. Those with working brain cells in the Dim party and the Medjia, realize she is not only a threat now, but that whether the Pubs win this election or not, that Sarah Palin is the new face of the Republican party, she's conservative, she's hugely popular, and if they do not destroy her, she will be an incredible political force on the right for many years to come.

The onslaught against Sarah will never stop.


16 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:33:47 PM by webschooner (McWhatshisname/Palin 2008 !!)
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To: webschooner
You’re right, and I’m pretty certain that they have some dirt on Todd Palin, the Obamatons are all cheerleading to get the man out on the Campaign Trail, if he does that, he makes himself a legitimate target.



17 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:37:18 PM by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Clintonfatigued
You ain’t a kiddin’. I’ve always lived in the midwest and I assure you, the only descriptione anyone in “fly-over country” could give for a “Community Organizer” is either “rabble rouser” or the guy who picks up litter along the roadside (who has more positive impact than BHO ever did).

But every one can relate to a working mom, balancing kids, jobs, and home life, family values and family problems.

I love this line and think it could well be her campaign slogan when she runs for President:

“At last, one of US!”



18 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:47:54 PM by bigbob
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To: webschooner
The onslaught against Sarah will never stop.
Something tells me that Sarah won't either.


19 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:52:08 PM by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird
You got that right — she’s definitely a gamer (and she’s our gamer).



20 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:55:06 PM by webschooner (McWhatshisname/Palin 2008 !!)
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To: shteebo
People are seeing Sarah and saying “yeah, I can go with that.” I know I did.
I want to relate a discussion I had at work this week.

A union electrician asked me who I thought I'd be voting for. I told him I had been thinking long and hard about it, even comptemplating sitting it out with NObama and McCain as my choices.

But then, Sarah Palin was picked by McCain and introduced to America. Told him that that had sealed the deal for me.

He protested, but weakly. Finally admitting that he has been hearing that alot lately.


21 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:56:44 PM by woofer ('Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth' - Steyn)
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To: JLS
pollsters have not been as good at polling rural voters as urban and suburban voters
A little harder to rig the vote to match the polls in rural areas too.


22 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:02:20 PM by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: woofer
Did you mention to him that Sarah is married to a Union guy?
Cheers!


23 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:02:50 PM by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Palin is what the GOP needed!!



24 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:12:58 PM by MaineConservative (Obama, we aren't electing McCain for president of GEEKS-On-Call, but for President of the USA)
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To: woofer
Interesting. Todd Palin in the Steelworker’s Union is yet another thing that Sarah has that the other three don’t. She can say truthfully she’s a union family. I wonder if that carries any weight.

Personally, I was unenthusiastic about McCain after the McCain/Feingold campaign finance reform bill which I still think is wrong-headed. (I want strict disclosure of contributors, not limits on donations.) But, I’ll forgive him that for this Palin pick which is nothing short of brilliant.



25 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:15:39 PM by shteebo
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To: shteebo
I wonder if that carries any weight.
Palin in the Steelworkers? With the Construction Trades You gotta be kidding.

They hate factory union members. They're coerced into joining, not organizers, etc., yada, yada.

What these guys want and have been talking about, at least until up to the Palin choice announcement, is the EFCA.

I like to ask them why the EFCA? Apparently, it gets the union bosses off their butts for additional dues money for demoncRAT coffers if they get a ton more union members paying in.

Its a big issue for them with no discernible gain other than that. Pocket book issue.


26 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:31:31 PM by woofer ('Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth' - Steyn)
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To: chaos_5
I am from Missouri, and I have to be shown, in order to believe. Governor Sarah Palin has shown me! I am so proud of Gov. Sarah Palin, and I am on board!



27 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:38:15 PM by tessalu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, for starters, NW Missouri is conservative already. If this were true of rural Iowa I’d be more inclined to say this a great news. Iowa continues to elect the likes of Harkin and now its 2nd Dem Governor in a row. We’ll see if the trend among rural voters is as widespread as hoped when Iowa starts to shave points off it’s love for Obama.



28 posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:15:14 PM by CARTOUCHE
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