S_E_Fudd
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:05 AM
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Minnesota Poll: McCain pulls into tie with Obama 45%-45% |
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:06 AM
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1. how many DUers will freak out over this poll? |
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I'm not one of them. Obama will win Minnesota.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:18 AM
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14. If it were say....mid-October I would be freaking out. |
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Right now, I'm just mildly annoyed.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:07 AM
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McCain got the expected bounce from their convention. It'll be a different story next week.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:10 AM
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3. I'll worry if the poll stays the same a week or two from now. |
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Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 09:13 AM by Kdillard
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:13 AM
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9. Looks like this organization only does a poll once every 4 months. |
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So I guess we won't see another one until January.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:17 AM
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lol. True but I am going to hope another organization does another poll |
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Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 09:18 AM by Kdillard
at least a month from now. I believe the numbers will be different but there seems to be work to do in any case. The numbers are not surprising considering when it was taken and where.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:11 AM
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you guys are the best at knocking down every bad poll for Obama...so have at it on this one....what? The poll is conducted by repubs? Now enough dems in the sample, 2 week convention bounce....let's hear the excuses now?
Minnesota should never be close....
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:15 AM
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if you read the article it was taken one week after the RNC, pretty much the peak of their convention bounce. It's not making excuses to acknowledge that and to not get panicky till we see it a week or two from now. How about some mental toughness?
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:46 AM
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31. that's not the point here, the point is what would you have Obama do different? |
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he is raising money, he is campaigning strongly, he is responding to attacks, he is ratcheting up his own attacks, his own convention was flawless, unified and on message.
he is running an incredible campaign and the only thing i'm fretting about are the ignoramus low information voters that decide our elections and how they are swayed by lies and prejudices much more than the rest of the voting public.
as for Obama, he just needs to keep plugging away. nobody said this would be easy.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:48 AM
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32. What a big man you are.... |
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:12 AM
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5. The last poll was in May. |
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C'mon. McCain was getting so little media attention in May that he could've died and nobody would've noticed.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:12 AM
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6. Not surprising there would be big Palin bounce in MN. |
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:17 AM
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12. Actually...according to the analysis... |
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Palin was a wash in Minnesota
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:29 AM
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23. Yes, I see that. But it also said follow up interviews showed that Palin evoked strong reactions. |
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Whatever the reason it won't last.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:12 AM
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7. Don't believe it. I cannot understand the collective mind of |
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the press and pollsters. If they go out of business because of more years of Mcsame, what will they be saying then?
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:13 AM
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But don't give up hope. Wonder what affect this will have on Franken?
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:17 AM
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11. This was done in the state they held their convention |
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but aside from that, what are the details of how they conducted this poll?
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:17 AM
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13. I could probably find an Oregon poll like that too |
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I know they were around in 2004. I really don't know how the pollsters manage the fraud, but it IS FRAUD.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:20 AM
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15. Is Star Tribune a right-wing newspaper? |
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:24 AM
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The Strib is a great paper!
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:25 AM
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21. Ok, thanks for the info. |
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:21 AM
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16. Minnesota hasn't gone red since 1972... |
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if they weren't seduced by the 'Reagan revolution' or the warmongering, fear tactics of GWB, then I can't see them getting all gooey over McFailin/Palin...please don't let this countryn be that crazy...
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:24 AM
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20. 1980 and 1984 Minnesotan Walter Mondale was on the ticket... |
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For the Democrats which explains especially 1984...
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:58 AM
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1968, 1976, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004?
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:06 AM
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37. Not saying Minnesota hasn't been a blue leaning state... |
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But the reason it resisted the Reagan onslaught was because of Mondale being on the ticket
1968 - Minnesotan Hubert Humphrey was the Presidential candidate
1976 - Minnesotan Walter Mondale was on the ticket
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:22 AM
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18. SUSA had Obama only up by 2 in MN a month ago. |
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SurveyUSA 08/13 - 08/14 682 LV O:47 M:45 http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=3af2463a-4cc8-4435-989f-3ea28464ab49MN might be close but it will/must stay blue. It is critical to Obama's victory.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:34 AM
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25. I'm working hard here in Mpls. TONS of Obama signs, scarce few |
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McCain signs!!
Obama, Biden, Bill & Hillary do need to come here and work the exurbs tho'. Exept for Rochester and Duluth, forget outstate- its Ashcroft-land!
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:35 AM
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27. Minneapolis isn't the Problem... |
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Not surprising there would be precious little McCain support there...
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:35 AM
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39. I work in the Mpls exurbs, and there isn't much McCain mania going |
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on there. Quite a few Obama signs. In fact I see more of the old */Cheney 04 stickers than McCain, (not sure how to gauge that). My workplace (manufacturing) leans to Obama.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:40 AM
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30. Great to hear! Keep up the good work. I am a volunteer here in MD. |
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But our focus is VA. We are very optimistic we can turn VA blue.
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:47 AM
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42. Why are you working an area that Obama is already winning? |
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:25 AM
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22. Senators Obama and Biden need ... |
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to spend time in Minnesota. They should hammer McCain on economic issues and health care. Minnesota is a good state for Hillary to push Obama's health care plan. Hope they have time to visit some of the rural areas. Palin is the main factor right now for the polls in Minnesota. Hopefully, as more and more comes out about how REALLY BAD she is, the polls will reflect Obama's real and potential strength there.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:39 AM
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Spending time in states Obama should win easily. Mccain picked a vp that is helping him alot. We must talk only about the economy now.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:33 AM
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as far as I know it's not a right wing paper. they endorsed Obama in the primaries. their polls are usually accurate gauges of how the state is leaning. as stated above the poll was taken right after the convention and reflect the bounce. I'm positive Obama will take the state, but note to all Minnesotans: Get Out There and Knock on Doors!
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:35 AM
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26. obama will take minnesota by 8% |
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nobody on this board should worry about minnesota.
the people there can take care of it.
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Sun Sep-14-08 09:37 AM
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28. Avista Capital Partners - owners of the Star Tribune |
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http://www.examiner.com/p-203370~Avista_Capital_Partners_and_EnCap_Investments_Lead__350_Million_Investment_in_Royal_Offshore.htmlTied up in oil like you wouldn't believe. I wonder where their political loyalties lie. I wonder why we're seeing such a pile of negative poll posts lately. It couldn't be Rove demoralizing the troops could it? Surely the Republicans wouldn't go so far as to bias polls. That would just be INCONCEIVABLE!
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:48 AM
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44. The Strib has consistently been left leaning... |
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And endorsed Obama in the primaries...
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:08 AM
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34. Minnesota will go Obama. |
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:11 AM
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35. Um, Republican convention was there. |
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That's why we never lost our lead in Colorado.
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:12 AM
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36. Some of these polls are crap |
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Minnesota is safe, it's not going Republican.
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:17 AM
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38. No way in hell we'll lose MN! |
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There's just no way. That is all.
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:43 AM
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41. You REALLY think he's going to lose Minnesota? |
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:47 AM
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43. I'm more concerned... |
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About what it says about Obama's strength overall...and that he will need to expend time and money defending what he should have no problem winning
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Sun Sep-14-08 12:07 PM
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45. do some research MN was close in '00 and '04, too, but ultimately it will go to Obama |
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