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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:53 AM
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Paul Begala hits it on the nail...
Today on This Week, he said the way to get under John McCain's skin is to go after his "Honor"; take his campaign tactics, and throw them back at him as "dishonorable" and unworthy of a former Naval Officer.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:54 AM
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1. Dems cannot do that...
it may turn off some voters...we have to be nice.

:sarcasm:
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:02 AM
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3. But he IS conducting himself dishonorably
Lying in the face of facts, and doing it over and over and over ignoring reality like people will just buy it IS DISHONORABLE.

John McSame is NOT a good man.



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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:30 AM
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12. Obama has already quietly started saying just that yesterday... It will gain traction if he keeps up
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:01 AM
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2. Yes, the way to go is to brand the campaign tactics as dishonorable and not the man.
Of course, would an honorable man use dishonorable campaign tactics? That would be a seed to plant in the minds of the voters.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:06 AM
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6. some woman should tell him his hair is getting thin.....then...the real man will appear
his short fuse needs to be lit.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:05 AM
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4. Shouldn't they have been doing that for months already?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:18 AM
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9. Obama has been chipping away at the edges
And recently has been going in a little deeper. It's dangerous territory and you have to lay the ground work before you go all in.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:43 AM
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16. I just hope they weren't deluding themselves into thinking the "honorable"...
St. John McCain was going to take the high road in this campaign.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:05 AM
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5. Clair McCasskill said...
something like ...

"With honor comes honesty, and he isn't being honest"
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eddy51 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:12 AM
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7. Bearing false witness
The Dems need to point out the fact that lying is a sin as much as adultery, or murder. How honorable is it to continue to lie to the American people. We need to ask if some of the lords commandments are more important than others. If so, lets rank them. Sarah, you go first. The McCain campaign has been caught over and over lying. If you can't abide by the laws set out by the one you consider to be the Supreme Being, and basically run on that premise, how will you ever be able to abide by the laws of us mere mortals? Or do our laws even matter. MORE OF THE SAME.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:27 AM
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11. Bingo...Don't use the word Lie use the phrase "Bearing False Witness"
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:13 AM
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8. No, the way to defend against the lies is to tell the truth.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:37 AM
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14. berni, if that's all it took we'd be finishing up with Al Gore's second term right now.
We have to tell the truth AND be tougher than tough....tougher than we showed in 2000 and 2004.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:46 AM
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19. this about how you PACKAGE and MARKET the Truth. Too many DUers and Democrats fail
to understand that any idea, platform or candidate must be packaged and marketed effectively.

It's not stupid, corrupt or anti-intellectual to acknowledge that and to do it effectively.

In fact, there are people whose job it is to study how to package and market the Truth.

Sadly, the Right uses very good marketing to sell Lies.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:24 AM
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10. He does have an ad
decrying McCain's dirty campaign tactics stating, "John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election."
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:31 AM
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13. You can't do that hes a POW Free Pass from the MSM n/t
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:42 AM
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15. "Bush is about as popular as a porcupine in a balloon factory"
Gotta love the mind of Paul Begala!!
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:45 AM
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17. We Texans have some pretty good euphemisms
But that one really got me laughing out loud!
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bcoylepa Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:45 AM
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18. write this letter to your paper- McCain Does Not Support the Troops
To the Editor:

The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), the country’s largest Iraq veterans’ group, looked at 155 Senate votes since Sept. 11, 2001, on legislation that “affected troops, veterans or military families.” It then awarded each senator a grade by comparing his or her votes to IAVA’s view of what constitutes effective support for active troops, veterans and their families.

No senator received an “A” grade. Thirteen senators — all Democrats — received an “A-.” The worst grade received by a Senate Democrat was higher than the best grade granted to a Republican.

Barack Obama got a B+.

John McCain received a “D.”

So much for McCain's support of the troops.

Still not convinced?

John McCain keeps saying "I have a perfect voting record from organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion and all the other veterans service organizations."

Sounds good? This is a lie. The VFW and American Legion do not compile congressional voting records, and other veterans' organizations that do compile records aren't favorable.

Disabled American Veterans is an organization that was founded following World War I, and today has 1.4 million members.

It not only tracks this legislation, but tracks how politicians vote.

John McCain is documented as having voted with DAV-supported legislation 34 percent of the time.

Barack Obama has voted with the DAV 89 percent of the time.

Now I would bet that this comes as a surprise to many Veterans and members of the Military and their families. I would also bet it comes as a surprise to the American people who hear McCain give lip service to the military. This would be because McCain's words do not match his actions. Just more empty words trying to deceive the American people.

Vote Obama/Biden on November 4th.
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