How can Palin say that she's saved by the blood of Jesus Christ if she lies so much?

[MrScorpio]

That is not very Godly of her

[Shakespeare]

1. It's the "once saved, always saved" doctrine. n/t

[MrScorpio]

No, Her actions make her a backslider

She needs a dose of the Holy Spirit to help her straighten up her act

[Shakespeare]

17. Are you familiar with that doctrine?

The fundies take it quite literally, and use it to rationalize the bad behavior of their flock. I grew up watching that bullshit up close.

I wasn't being flippant by pointing out that doctrine; it's the key to understanding the heart of their dysfunction.

[MrScorpio]

21. I was raised Apostolic, so I know her game

According to her own standards she's not setting a good example

[Shakespeare]

25. Not quite the same doctrine-wise; but I'm not sure we even disagree here.

My point is that this has nothing to do with setting an example, and everything to do with using that doctrine as a get out of jail free card to rationalize bad behavior.

[MrScorpio]

26. Another reason why I wouldn't be caught dead in her church

I wasn't raised that way

[dansolo]

12. Or as I put it

The "Get out of hell free" card.

[geckosfeet]

2. That's how it works. You do whatever the fuck you want. JC and crew

absolve you of your bad behavior and guilt and whatever and make it all good.


Make sense?
:dilemma:

[MrScorpio]

3. In the eyes of Jesus, she's not a very good believer

Her actions speak for themselves

[seabeyond]

4. and a whole convention, of mean, hateful, nasty.... convention hall of christians saying amen

to the mean, ugly, nasty, hateful.....

yup

dont tell me about christianity and what i am not, as i listen to you
dont tell me about being a mom as self interst before child everytime
dont tell me about being a feminist when hubby sits in meetings and makes decision
dont cry sexism as a political tool when there is a real problem of sexism in this world

[saltpoint]

5. I seriously doubt if Sarah Palin has ever read the New Testament.

I betcha Barack Obama has, though.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

6. Sigh - her behavior is what challenges my faith - If Jesus accepts her chronic lies..... nt

[CatsDogsBabies]

7. There are probably some

who believe that being saved is license to sin (Paul in the Bible was very critical of these folks). If you are certain that you are saved, at least for some people, your actions don't matter.

Or, Palin doesn't really believe in God and is just using religion as a tool in her attempts to gain power.

[MrScorpio]

8. A Dime Store Christian

[MikeDuffy]

9. "Heavenly Deception"?

After all, GOD needs all the help he can get, dontchaknow? This is justification for their deliberate Stealth campaign, i.e. their desired ends justifies their means.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. I've known fundamentalists

who seemed to think they could do whatever they wanted to as long as they took Communion every Sunday--that rite cleared the slate, as it were. Perhaps Palin believes something like this.

[BlooInBloo]

11. I know - I've never heard of a religious person who lies. Never.

Ever.


EDIT: Subject typo.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

14. "In what regard, Charlie" nt

[msongs]

13. believing the myths of the jesus cult does not necessarily make one a good person nt

[Ilsa]

15. "Lord please forgive me. I won't do it anymore unless I need to to get what I want." nt

[northernsoul]

16. If you think that religious faith will guarantee ethical conduct by its adherents,

I would encourage you to study history much, much more closely.

[WinkyDink]

18. Mr. Scorpio is hardly displaying ignorance. YOU, however, are displaying tone-deafness to sarcasm.

[MrScorpio]

20. You know what the pious have done as well as I...

The ones that don't know are her supporters

They should be asking themselves the question in my OP

[Overseas]

19. Because all they have to do is Repent and Accept Jesus and they are IN !!

Very conveeeeeeeeeenient !

[MrScorpio]

23. She's already repented and has accepted the Holy Spirit in her life

She's "saved" by her own admission

Lying is a sin and a saved person wouldn't be doing that

[Overseas]

30. But I figure she'll go in for some Re-Saving later and all will be well.

I think fundies can get tune ups on their salvation.

[lonestarnot]

22. Just like the last great deceiver bushitler who was ushered in on a cheat. McSame hasn't lied about

religion yet, but he claims membership in a Baptist church w/o moving a letter, or being baptized into the Church and his attendance there is prollee once every 4 years. I wonder if she will negotiate foreign policy in tongues?

[Ikonoklast]

24. Sin on Friday, repent on Sunday

Rinse, wash, repeat.

Sorry I got drunk and beat the wife and kids. I'm sorry, Jeebus.

I can do this as many times as I want, 'cause Jeebus lubs me no matter what, and if I say I'm sorry, he forgives me. Every time.



However, unrepentant unbeliever that you are, no matter what you do, no matter how good a life you lead, are going to HELL.

And my Pastor says lying and stealing from unbelievers such as you is fine with Jeebus.

[secondwind]

27. it's the mindset that says you CAN shed another's blood, if it is for

a Christian cause..... like killing abortion doctors, etc.

[MrScorpio]

28. I can see her doing that

[iamthebandfanman]

29. duh, he died so she COULD lie n/t

[Beregond2]

31. Traditional Christianity taught that the proper response

to God's grace was a "firm purpose of amendment." In other words, it wasn't enough to say "I accept God's forgiveness," but to prove it through your words and actions. The modern fundamentalists have thrown out the latter requirement. They see salvation as a free pass. So long as they get their spiritual ticket punched once a week, they can say or do anything, and it's OK. That's why it has become so popular, particularly with sociopaths.

[polichick]

32. What that kind of fundie practices is faux Christianity - the proverbial...

...wolves in sheeps clothing.