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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:35 AM
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This is baffling
Why would McCain be closing the gap in the polls? He's lying like a rug, Obama, and in some cases the press, is calling him out on it, the Palin/Gibson interviews made her look ridiculous.

What is it? Am I to believe that because the GOP had their convention last, that's all anyone can remember?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:36 AM
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1. It's all bullshit.
smoke and mirrors....designed to put the dems in a panic. Don't let it.
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StopTheNeoCons Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:59 AM
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19. McLame lead will evaporate, look at Iowa
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:36 AM
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2. Swing voters are stupid creatures who will vote for
whoever can cynically manipulate them the best.

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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:01 PM
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20. That's what I've been saying. We are having the Bradley Effect come out early.
And in many ways, this is GOOD. It means we will have fewer surprises on election day and the ground we need to gain is very clear.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:37 AM
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4. A little this, a little that, but mostly imo cause they won't stop going negative...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:38 AM
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5. It is once again the political team phenom again. Us v. them.
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:39 AM
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6. The Polls have not had time yet
to catch up to the moment... they are going to go on a slide in the next few days
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:40 AM
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7. Its the spin and its spinning sooo hard that people are losing their minds.
Seriously, I haven't found one person who has anything good to say about McCain or Palin. I've heard there are no choices, obviously I'm going to have to vote for Obama... I think its a bunch of lies.. I think the fundies are just happy with the Palin pick and are actually showing their faces again... These are the same people who showed up for Bush. If anything, McCain's pick makes people disgusted with politicians and everything that goes along with the entire process. People are worried about their jobs, lack of income, price of gas, spending billions of their tax dollars on wars 2 wars... This is a serious election about the direction of this country and the Republicans and media have turned the entire process into a circus that makes people throw up their hands and decide that the system will never work for them...
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Pattib Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:43 AM
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8. Yes, unfortunately a lot of Americans are that stupid...
I told my dh that I believe that a lot of Americans go with the crowd, if the media is playing something up as new and exciting, a lot of Americans will go along with that and want to be a part of it. It's crazy of course, after the GOP convention, remember the pundits were saying her speech was a slam-dunk? Some people heard that and that was all they needed to hear. That and her extremist religious views, they were sold. They never needed to hear anything else. I actually heard people on TV saying, "isn't she great, I love her"! Huh? You know nothing about her. I hope the swing voters are listening to everything since she spoke at the convention. The fundies were never going to vote for Obama anyways...I still think she is sinking like the Titanic.
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:43 AM
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9. Because the pollsters are largely controlled by the MSM
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 10:44 AM by abbiehoff
They poll increasing numbers of registered Republicans in order to make the result what their sponsors want it to be.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:48 AM
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10. I agree! NT
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:31 AM
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12. I think there was an article..
about ABC or CBS skewing their polls last week. Wish I had saved it. I trust the polls about as much as I trust the television cable shows.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:58 AM
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11. If Americans vote with their stupidity...
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 11:00 AM by liberalmuse
and their worst inclinations, then we are in for a rough 4 years. The financial markets are on the verge of collapsing, and McCain doesn't really give a shit, because in his view, all is well and We, The People will be completely on our own. He'll likely die within his first two years in office and Palin will be at the helm, a perfect puppet for rabid, evangelical right. Roe Vs. Wade will be overturned, and American will become a theocratic, Depression Era shithole dictatorship. Oh, and there WILL be a draft as we enter into war after war.

If Americans vote with their intelligence and their best inclinations, then we will still be in for a rough 4 years, but we will have a true leader at the helm. Lets face it, if a Democrat is elected, Bush will pull out the rug and everything that has been artificially propped up for the last several years will come crashing down. In spite of this, Obama will be able to motivate and inspire Americans during the rough times, and will work with the best minds in order to come up with creative, real life solutions so we can begin to climb our way out of the colossal mess the Republicans created.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:33 AM
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13. I call "Bullshit" on the polls.
:puke:
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:33 AM
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14. Because at least 2 of the polls being quoted over and over today are owned by the RW.
They're creating a perception here folks.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:33 AM
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15. we'll see how things are panning out in a week or so
If Obama is still not picking up in the polls, drastic measures will be needed.

We must win, there is no alternative.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:47 AM
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16. Palin, is what happened.
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:53 AM
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17. I ALSO CALL BULLSHIT ON THE POLLS .... THIS IS WHY
The pollsters say their calling lists consist of likley voters which don't take into account the 2 demographics that they say Obama is excelling in:

1) The youth voters 18-25 years of age. College campus' are registering voters in record numbers because they now realize they're the generation getting screwed and they all love Obama.

and

2) Newly registered voters. Its no secret that Obama's 50 state registration drive that actually started well over a year ago is the largest ever organized in American political history.

I'm willing to bet that these so called "polls" virtually excludes these 2 groups.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:55 AM
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18. It just takes a while for these things to catch up.
A week or two from now, McCain will be charting back down.
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