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Sun Sep-14-08 10:46 AM
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77% of "Hillary supporters" supporting Obama |
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Does this 23% give us a clue as to the success of operation chaos?
I just can't imagine that many people don't care about the vast gap in policy between hillary and mc - even with moosalini thrown into the mix.
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:47 AM
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1. What poll? Don't buy it. |
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PUMAs are in the minority, and aren't going to make a difference.
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:48 AM
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2. I think more Hilary voters will come our way.... |
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:51 AM
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6. They are not all PUMAs |
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the party does conatain some racists, they just won't come over.
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:59 AM
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9. If they won't come over, we don't want them. |
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My father is a closet racist, and voting for Obama.
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:49 AM
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:49 AM
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4. 82% of Democrats overall support Obama. |
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So, that seems like a perfectly reasonable number.
Only 80-85% of registered Democats are real Democrats. The other 15-20% are Dixiecrats.
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:51 AM
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5. he's going to get more than eighty percent of dems come election day |
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:51 AM
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7. Random sample? Only Dems? Only those who voted Clinton in a primary? |
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Silly stuff if "Hillary Supporter" identification methodology is not clarified
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Sun Sep-14-08 10:57 AM
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8. Some women supported Hillary just because she was a woman... thats just reality. |
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Its the same reality that sais a lot of black people will support Obama because he is black... not all, but a substantial amount.
Identity politics is a reality of American voters. I don't like that fact, but thats just how some people area.
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:08 AM
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:00 AM
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10. That's an improvement, I believe. Certain sorts of white folks will just never be reached.. |
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:00 AM
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11. My mom is a Republican who voted for Hillary and is now voting McCain. Any more questions? |
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:03 AM
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12. It'd be interesting to know how many Republicans or independents voted for Hillary. |
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I think the Democratic voters for Hillary have already came on board for the most part.
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:09 AM
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14. And 23% of Hillary voters were republics to begin with, like my boss. |
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She is a rabid republic and ran out to vote for hillary. If Hillary's supposed 18 million supporters would send her $2 apiece she would be out of debt. I don't think all her supporters were real Democrats.
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:17 AM
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15. As a Hillary supporter that now supports Obama - |
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The thing that people might not realize is how people supported Hillary just because of who she is.
It's not just a Dem/Repug thing. It's a Hillary thing :)
I believe that some people crossed party lines for her. That independents supported her.
At the end of the day, those people will have to decide if they supported Hillary because of her, or because of what she stood for. The people who supported her for what she stood for most likely will realize that Obama is alot closer in her ideals than McCain. But the people who supported Hillary because she is Hillary - it's hard to say.
Hillary Clinton defintely has her own followers. Here's to hoping they join our cause in the end.
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Sun Sep-14-08 11:36 AM
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16. I don't think they know about the vast gap between their policies. |
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Because no one has done a good job of defining what they are. Not even the established women's organizations.
Palin is still just a shiny object for a lot of these women. Because she is a hocky mom and is being portrayed as a "small town all American girl" they think she has their best interest in mind. It is up to Obama's female surrogants, women's organizations, community organizers and Oprah and the View to start defining the gulf on the issues between the two and what it will mean to them. Joe Biden should also be doing this especially since he has done more for progressive women's issues than Palin ever will.
Once they start, the media will join in. And it depends on how they present their arguments as to whether that will be a positive or negative thing. It needs to be done in a respectful and matter-of-fact way so that those supporting Palin can change their minds on the issues alone and don't get their backs up because they feel like they are being judged for being ignorant about this gap.
The one thing that the campaign doesn't seem to get is that Palin supporters are not upset when you attack Palin because they love her, they are upset because they love her caricatured persona and they believe that when you attack Palin you are attacking who they are. If they show these woman that Palin is not who THEY are without petty attacks, they will change their mind.
Obama needs to focus on McCain.
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Sun Sep-14-08 01:13 PM
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17. Don't believe corporate media |
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Sun Sep-14-08 01:20 PM
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18. Please, enough with "Operation Chaos" |
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The idea that Rush could actually convince a significant portion of the electorate to vote for Hillary in the primaries is absurd. Stop giving credence to this idea. We can't be in denial and coming up with "theories" for every poll.
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