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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:43 PM
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Buyer's remorse
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 04:06 PM by butlerd
Has anybody thought of us using a "buyer's remorse" angle when trying to convince people to vote against McSame/Palin? What I mean to say is (and I hope I'm not mangling this beyond comprehension), right now everybody is looking at the election and who's going to WIN it but I'm concerned that maybe we (and the Obama campaign) aren't focusing enough on trying to help those "undecideds" understand what things might really look like AFTERWARDS if, higher power forbid, McSame/Palin somehow manage to eke out a victory.

While none of us can predict, with absolute certainty, what will definitely happen during a McSame/Palin presidency, I think that both McSame/Palin have, in their statements and actions, given us plenty of signs and portents of what's to come should they be elected (i.e. war with Iran and MAYBE Russia, more people uninsured, further economic disaster to name a few things) and the best part is, nearly everything is already in the public record.

I just wonder how much "buyer's remorse" McSame/Palin voters (the "sane" ones anyway) are going to experience should McSame/Palin get elected and if there is a way that we might be able to get the "undecided" to think about some of the stuff that McSame/Palin have indicated that they are interested in doing before pulling the lever for them for some superficial or "emotional" (i.e. "hockey mom", first woman VP) reason? To use a food analogy, having buffalo sauce with my chicken strips might taste great at the moment but usually leaves my stomach pretty upset afterwards. We all know how quickly Bush's Presidency fell apart after his hard fought (but narrow) victory in 2004 and, given his poll numbers in the months and years thereafter, I imagine there were more than a few people whom regretted voting for him again.

IMHO we need to whatever we can to keep voters from making the wrong choice (in the first place) because if McSame/Palin win and they mess stuff up (even more than they already are-which we can all be reasonably sure that they will) they will undoubtedly just argue that they've had their "accountability moment" and ignore us-and good luck getting the Dems in Congress (even if we are stilll in the majority) to go after them via the impeachment process. Basically, the time to make a difference is NOW- or we wait another four years.


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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:59 PM
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1. In a thread earlier today, a DUer was telling how a friend was defending Palin.
The DUer said, "You sound just like you did four years ago when you defended Bush." I think this is a good strategy.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:03 PM
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2. I call her what she is, a GIMMICK..
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:08 PM
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5. She most definitely is
The problem is that people like "gimmicks". The other problem is that she is going to "cost" all of us plenty and we probably won't stop paying for her and McSame's inevitable blunders.

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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:07 PM
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3. See this post from Jenmito - similar message
This idea for an ad is good because it addresses the whole "she's like one of us" line of thinking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7054623
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:08 PM
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4. I think that's a good idea
One technique that can be helpful in breaking bad habits (like voting Republican!) is training yourself to think "how will I feel in an hour, or tomorrow, or next week, if I {do the thing I'm tempted to do now, like smoke, have another drink, go out partying instead of studying, etc}?" It's useful to look past the immediate reward and really visualize how you'd feel if you do the thing and then compare it to how you'd feel if you don't.

Anyone who might be tempted to vote Republican not because of their core beliefs but because McCain was a POW and deserves it, or because Palin is a woman and would be the first female VP, might do well to look past the initial satisfaction of casting an exciting vote and towards what the results of that vote will feel like.

Interesting idea about the buyers' remorse! I can't believe more Republicans don't have it from 2000 and 2004... but a lot of them do despite (if the polls are to be believed) leaning toward McCain this time, so I think your idea has a lot of potential.
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