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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:17 PM
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"Lies"
Aravosis at AmericaBlog Chronicles How the Media Worm May Have Turned --

Lies
John Aravosis (DC) • 9/14/2008 08:02:00 PM ET • Link

St. Petersburg Times (Editorial) “Campaign of lies disgraces McCain” McCain's straight talk has become a toxic mix of lies and double-speak. It is leaving a permanent stain on his reputation for integrity, and it is a short-term strategy that eventually will backfire with the very types of independent-thinking voters that were so attracted to him.

Atlanta Journal Constitution (Jay Bookman) The volume and audacity of lies pouring from the McCain campaign is startling and even historic…That’s really something, lying straight out about a FactCheck group, knowing that you’re going to get caught but not giving a damn about it. With stuff like this, the McCain camp has cut any remaining tethers to reality and integrity and is now floating wherever the winds of illusion and whimsy may take them. It’s quite remarkable, and quite insulting to the intelligence of the American people.

Pittsburg Post Gazette (Tony Norman) Where have you gone, John McCain? You once said you'd rather lose an election than lose a war. Is it worth winning an election if it means forfeiting your soul on the altar of political expediency?...Where is the honor in reciting lies for something as transient as political advantage? What are we as voters supposed to make of political ads that accuse Barack Obama of advocating sex education for kindergartners?... Despite the intellectually dishonest maneuvering of your campaign, many Americans admire you, John McCain. Before you embraced the darkness, I was among those who disagreed with your politics, but considered you honorable. Now it's hard to look at you without seeing the scoundrels who made you what you are today.

Kansas City Star (Barb Shelly) McCain stoops to deception, distortion: Maybe you’ve seen it. The campaign ad cites the authoritative journal Education Week to claim that Democrat Barack Obama has been missing in action on education reform…Shamelessly misleading the public?...These are old tricks we’ve been seeing in local elections for years. Distort. Twist. Deceive. Damage. And the winning candidate drags a load of public contempt into office. I had hoped for better from McCain…John McCain may win the presidency this way, but he will lose the respect he has acquired over the years.

Boston Globe (Scot Lehigh) Pretzel logic from the McCain campaign: Here’s the question voters should be asking themselves this week: Just how stupid does the McCain-Palin campaign think I am? The answer: Dumb enough to hoodwink with charges so contrived and cynical they make your teeth ache…As the nonpartisan campaign watchdog FactCheck.org has made clear, this is a thoroughly dishonest ad . No matter. The McCain campaign has shown it's ready and willing to say preposterous things to win.

Washington Post (David Ignatius) Stopping at nothing to win: Thinking about the Palin choice, you begin to ponder other moves McCain has made on the road to winning the Republican nomination. McCain was right a few years ago to warn that Bush's tax cuts would have potentially ruinous fiscal consequences; now he favors extending the cuts that have produced a crisis of debt and deficit. Why did he switch his position, other than political opportunism?...In May 2006, after McCain had courted the Rev. Jerry Falwell in an effort to win conservative support, I asked him if he was bending his principles for the sake of winning. "I don't want it that badly," McCain answered. "I will continue to do what is right…If that means I can't get the Republican nomination, fine. I've had a happy life. The worst thing I can do is sell my soul to the devil." He was right.

Washington Post (Eugene Robinson) The Scream Machine: There was a time when Republicans campaigned on their ideas, programs and values. This year -- lacking ideas, programs or values -- John McCain and Sarah Palin are running for the White House on an elaborate fictional narrative of victimhood…Creating the false impression that Democrats and journalists are unfairly attacking Palin serves another purpose as well: It helps create the impression that legitimate and necessary questions about her record -- such as her one-time support for the Bridge to Nowhere or her history of seeking the congressional earmarks she now claims to reject -- are somehow out of bounds.

Chicago Tribune (Steve Chapman) To McCain the truth is expandable: McCain has concluded that a fact-based case about Obama isn't enough to prevail in November. So he has chosen to smear his opponent with ridiculous claims that he thinks the American people are gullible enough to believe. He has charged repeatedly that his opponent is willing to lose a war to win an election. What's McCain willing to lose to become president? Nothing so consequential as a war. Just his soul.

Chicago Tribune (Frank James) “McCain plays dirty on Obama & sex-ed” So the McCain ad, in the way it contorts the truth, is pretty shocking from a candidate who has promised to bring change and reform to Washington, a man who's urging Americans to live for a cause larger than themselves. This is an old-fashioned, unreconstructed politics whose goal, first and foremost, is to get the candidate elected, the truth be damned. McCain has said he'd rather lose a campaign than lose a war. But it appears from this ad he'd rather lose any purchase he has on straight-talk than lose this presidential election.

Chicago Tribune (Eric Zorn) `Sex ed' ad educates us on the character of John McCain: The surprise came at the end: I'm John McCain and I approved this message. With that infamous admission, McCain surrendered his integrity and signaled a willingness to say or do anything to get elected… We used to expect better from John McCain. No longer.

TIME (Joe Klein): A new rule here: Rather than do the McCain campaign's bidding by wasting space on Senator Honor's daily lies and bilge--his constant attempts to divert attention from substantive issues--I'm going to assume that others will spend more than enough time on the sewage that Steve Schmidt is shoveling and, from now on, try to stick to the issues.

TIME (Joe Klein) Apology Not Accepted: he is responsible for one of the sleaziest ads I've ever seen in presidential politics, so sleazy that I won't abet its spread by linking to it, but here's the McClatchy fact check.. I just can't wait for the moment when John McCain--contrite and suddenly honorable again in victory or defeat--talks about how things got a little out of control in the passion of the moment. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig.

TIME (Joe Klein) Another McCain Flip Flop: Army Times, which is not--last time I checked--a radical left wing publication, takes John McCain to task for changing his position on the Future Combat Systems program. This is yet another example of how running for President has driven McCain off the deep end. In the past, he was one of the more consistent voices against foolish Pentagon weapon systems. Here's a program that McCain previously wanted to end. Then Obama says he wants to slow-walk it...and McCain--reflexively, it appears, and unable to recall that he previously opposed it--decides to support it.

New York Times (Paul Krugman) Blizzard of Lies: I’m talking, instead, about the relationship between the character of a campaign and that of the administration that follows. Thus, the deceptive and dishonest 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign provided an all-too-revealing preview of things to come…And now the team that hopes to form the next administration is running a campaign that makes Bush-Cheney 2000 look like something out of a civics class. What does that say about how that team would run the country? What it says, I’d argue, is that the Obama campaign is wrong to suggest that a McCain-Palin administration would just be a continuation of Bush-Cheney. If the way John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning is any indication, it would be much, much worse.

New York Times (Editorial): The most disheartening aspect of a scurrilous Republican ad falsely accusing Barack Obama of promoting sex education for kindergarten children is its closing line: “I’m John McCain, and I approved this message.” This from that straight-talker of yore, who fervidly denounced the 2004 Bush campaign’s Swift Boat character attacks on John Kerry’s military record. What a difference four years makes, especially after Mr. McCain secured the nomination by hiring some of the same low-blow artists from the Bush campaign.

New York Times (Larry Rohter): The advertisement <“Disrespectful”> is the latest in a number that resort to a dubious disregard for the facts. The nonpartisan political analysis group Factcheck.org has already criticized “Disrespectful” as “particularly egregious,” saying that it “goes down new paths of deception,” and is “peddling false quotes.”

New York Times (Michael Cooper and Jim Rutenberg) McCain Barbs Stirring Outcry as Distortions: Mr. McCain came into the race promoting himself as a truth teller and has long publicly deplored the kinds of negative tactics that helped sink his candidacy in the Republican primaries in 2000. But his strategy now reflects a calculation advisers made this summer — over the strenuous objections of some longtime hands who helped him build his “Straight Talk” image — to shift the campaign more toward disqualifying Mr. Obama in the eyes of voters.

ABC News-Political Punch (Jake Tapper): One can only imagine what the John McCain of 2004 – who called the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ads “dishonest and dishonorable” – would say about this ad… I suppose one could twist this stuff any way you want if your only point is to make an inflammatory charge. And win an election… The New York Times’ “Checkpoint” (“Ad on Sex Education Distorts Obama Policy “), Factcheck.org (“Obama, contrary to the ad's insinuation, does not support explicit sex education for kindergarteners”) and the Washington Post’s Fact Checker ("McCain's 'Education' Spot Is Dishonest, Deceptive") say the ad is a gross distortion. I agree -- in both senses of the word "gross."

AP (Charles Babington): The "Straight Talk Express" has detoured into doublespeak. Republican presidential nominee John McCain, a self-proclaimed tell-it-like-it-is maverick, keeps saying his running mate, Sarah Palin, killed the federally funded Bridge to Nowhere when, in fact, she pulled her support only after the project became a political embarrassment. He said Friday that Palin never asked for money for lawmakers' pet projects as Alaska governor, even though she has sought nearly $200 million in earmarks this year. He says Obama would raise nearly everyone's taxes, when independent groups say 80 percent of families would get tax cuts instead.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/lies.html
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:20 PM
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1. THANK YOU for this wonderful compendium. Oh, let me bask in the glow and feast
on these blurbs for just a while longer, before I forge on with the humdrum chores
of daily living...
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:22 PM
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2. This should be put into an ad by moveon.org or the Obama campaign
Excellent.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:24 PM
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3. wow likes sharks smelling blood they are now arroused by the faint smell of
Pulitzer in the air. With Wall Street now in fear maybe the MSM will get off the bullshit and get serious about this election.

Man this election is way to long.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:29 PM
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4. I have previously posted that the print media has been onto the fabrication from early on.
Problem is, the TV media continues to perpetuate the lies and even endorses them by not calling them out on it. And the few times when they have made pitiful attempts at it, they did it on the least watched times of the week - Friday nights and Saturdays. At that point, the repukes start whining and screaming, prompting these faux TV journalists and bloviating pudits to go back to business as usual spouting "The Narrative™" once more on Sunday.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:07 PM
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5. One score and seven years ago, a sleazy "B" actor brought upon this continent,
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 10:04 PM by Jackpine Radical
in place of the old America we once knew, a new nation immersed in lies and dedicated to the proposition that people will believe anything if you tell them often and convincingly enough.

We are now engaged in a great and most uncivil war testing whether that nation, or any nation so cut loose from its moorings in reality and so adrift on a sea of lies and corruption of its own making, can long endure.

On November 4 we will meet on ten thousand battlefields to engage the morally deranged descendants of that "B" actor in a contest of life and death, not just for our nation, but for our species and for our planet.

On that day we will put to the test the ultimate question of whether idealistic dreams of justice, truth and decency can once more prevail in returning our nation once more to the universal esteem it once held as the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, or whether we will permit ourselves to sink into a pit of malignancy and ultimate destruction.

The world may little remember what each of us does to bring about a victory for light and truth on that day, but children yet unborn will know greater joy and peace in their lives, diseases will be conquered, and the thin and precious film of life that surrounds the earth will be given the chance to heal if we succeed in rising to the great challenges that now face us.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:10 PM
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7. Awesome!!
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:08 PM
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6. K & R
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:17 PM
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8. WOW. That is a beautiful sight to behold! n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:03 AM
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9. Kick for Truth!
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 06:03 AM by jefferson_dem
:kick:

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:06 AM
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10. It seems like the print media is beginning to call it. .
WHEN DO THE TV MACHINES OWN UP??
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:09 AM
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11. Thanks. Wonderful post to wake up to this morning.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:29 AM
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12. Bundle this into an Ad! WOW!
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:35 AM
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13. Great Post...All Of the U.S.A..should read this today...
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