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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:50 PM
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Game Over Folks: McCain vs. Greenspan...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/mccain-econ-strong/

August 20th, 2008 - McCain: "I Still Believe The Fundamentals Of The Economy Are Strong"

a mere 3 1/2 weeks later...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/14/greenspan-this-is-the-wor_n_126274.html

September 14th, 2008 - Alan Greenspan: "This Is The Worst Economy I've Ever Seen"

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Now, if the "U.S.Americans" want to elect John "Forget-my-own-name" McCain, they can't say they weren't warned.

Either McCain has Alzheimer's, is an idiot, or is a bold faced liar.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:52 PM
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1. Why would you say that is Game Over?
They'll just pull some spin bullshit excuse, OR Greenspan will get a phone call from Rove and "clarify" his remarks tomorrow. That's how it works.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:11 PM
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13. see post 12. The distinction between McCain's view and reality is made painfully clear.
by Greenspan's comments.

People respect Greenspan. He is indirectly but most assuredly saying McCain is full of shit.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:52 PM
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2. I heard about Greenspan's comments and thought to myself...
'This won't help McCain. At all.'
McCain probably went into a spittle-spewing rage when he heard what Greenspan said.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:57 PM
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6. He probably started barking like a dog
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:52 PM
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3. I'm pretty sure
he can be all 3
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:54 PM
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4. Mr. Mitchell was 3 when the Great Depression hit.
Adds a little oomph.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:54 PM
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5. McCain also said he wants Greenspan dead or alive to explain all that has happened
...What a maverick?
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:00 PM
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7. Greenspan: No tax cuts without spending cuts
From the Yahoo article cited in the Huffington Post article:

Alan Greenspan says the country can't afford tax cuts of the magnitude proposed by Republican presidential contender John McCain — at least not without a corresponding reduction in government spending.

"Unless we cut spending, no," the former Federal Reserve chairman said Friday when asked about McCain's proposed tax cuts, pegged in some estimates at $3.3 trillion.

"I'm not in favor of financing tax cuts with borrowed money," Greenspan said during an interview with Bloomberg Television. "I always have tied tax cuts to spending."

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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:01 PM
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8. Such an easy case to make that McCain is as ready to deceive the public as
Bush is. This should be in an ad that also shows McCain's quote about walking in the Iraq marketplace without threat...about Palin's earmarks....etc.

It is not dirty lowball politics to show people the truth. It must be done.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:02 PM
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9. Greenspan is scared enough to say the truth.
We need more of that, and now. More exposing of the lies. Some of the media and papers get that it's time to quit goofing around and say the truth for a change... we've seen that lately, but it needs more of the same. More.

Any public figures with any sense, especially Repubs, have to say how it is, and endorse Obama now. And clearly. Or they're goin' down with the ship when it sinks too.

This isn't the time to get relief to the middle class out of compassion... it's not a matter of that, it's absolutely necessary, to avoid killing off the economy.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:08 PM
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11. very good point.
thank you...

I'd like to see an ad

with his lies about Iraq
and Gramm as his fin adviser
his and gramm's signatures on gramm's doozy of a bill that brought this great nation to her knees (with NO dem sigs)

and the quote about the economy

and then greenspan's quote

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:59 PM
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17. he's not scared. he's complicit. it's not like these people didn't know what would happen.
they knew.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:11 AM
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18. He's trying to save his own ass.
When people come to look for someone to blame he'll be one of the first, and he's just trying to mitigate it.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:07 PM
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10. If only it were that simple...
This is going to be war right up to the end.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:09 PM
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12. I guess when I said "game over" I meant to say this is a nail in the John McCain
"imcompetent to lead in such times" coffin.

You are right though, it's possible people won't put 2 and 2 together.

However, I think this would make an amazing commercial.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:48 PM
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16. Absolutely! nt.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:13 PM
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14. Dumb people can be lead about with the false promise of a few " pieces of eight"
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:14 PM
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15. Yeah, this is bad for McCain. Especially tomorrow
when Lehman Bros goes down. It's likely to be a pretty ugly day on the stock market. Obama needs to keep hitting McCain on his admission he doesn't know anything about the economy.

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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:11 AM
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20. bump for the am crowd.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:13 AM
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19. " Alzheimer's, is an idiot, or is a bold faced liar"
All of the above.
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