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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:10 PM
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***IMPORTANT*** WE MUST Prepare for the Crucial Debates Well ahead of Time. YES, We.
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 11:12 PM by FrenchieCat
We all know how the media spins and spins immediately after debates, right? That is to say, by the time the debates end, the person we thought was the winner becomes the loser instead. As it was, remember how we would scratch our collective asses and try to figure out what had just happened?

Well, there is something that we can do about that....something like what was done in reference to Ms. Palin prior to her big debut interview: We must get our questions that we want asked out there in the world of media. We must be assertive in our demands that we, the people, have a say on the questions, and even the spin that comes following it. We have to communicate, for the world to hear, those questions that we are interested in hearing about. Get them out into the forefront, premeditatedly, long before the debates take place.

How is that done?

The first debate is on Foreign Policy, far as I know.

We get the email addresses to the debate moderators and we start writing the questions we want asked the most. We want some questions on the Iraq war, the faulty intelligence, and what was said prior to the war starting, and what ended up occurring. That is one that will favor our guy, for sure. We also want to make certain that questions about the surge will be asked in context of what other elements besides it brought Iraq to a relatively better place than where it was at the time.

We want to get these questions out to Josh Marshall, Andrew Sullivan, Mark Ambinder, Keith Olberman, Rachel Maddow, Eugene Robinson, Frank Rich, E.J. Dionne, Ed Schultz, Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, Paul Hartmann, Mike Malloy and whomever else can push our pre-debate points. We want them to start discussing them. What we don't want is for the Debate questions to be a complete surprise to us. We can also include communications to McCain or "Not friends of ours" supporters like Tom BrokeJaw, Chris Matthews, Mark Halperin, etc...

I have email addresses for all of these folks, so that won't be a problem. I will post a follow up to this thread with all of that information.

Sooooo, to be one step ahead of those who don't give a shit about us or America, we need to loudly and publicly start no later than NOW, calling into talk shows, writing LTTEs, and writing a deluge of emails in order to generate the interests in what we find to be important.....and really, really concentrate on getting our questions into the public arena. The media pundits must know what we are expecting, and they need to especially know that we are tired of debates in where pundits are allowed to transform whatever moment they see fit as the "gaffe" moment, etc.....

Then of course, throughout the debate, we must fire off letters to the networks and cable "News" channels, all the way till past spin zone time.

Sure, the debates will be a lot of "fun" to watch while commenting here at DU, but we really have to be much more organized and much more effective than that. We can make a difference, if we hold important that doing this work will help us regain control over our own destiny. We have got to engage to make "them", the media, understand clearly that they are not in charge of our history, and they will not be the ones to determine the winner based on their made-up shitty criteria.

We need all DUers as well as other bloggers to participate in this project. The point is to prep the debates so that there is as much pressure put on those who normally "we must obey", as there is on our candidates (Obama/Biden). We must do all that we can to put them on notice; because they must know that NO, we are not having any of it.....NOT THIS TIME!



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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:12 PM
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1. actually, the last debate is on foreign policy
it's being held at Hofstra University on Long Island, that's why I know. I went there.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:16 PM
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3. It think that has been switch to take place in Mississippi instead....
Ole Miss presidential debate topic changed to foreign policy

Thursday, August 21, 2008

Whether it was John McCain's campaign pushing to switch the topic of the first presidential debate to foreign policy and national security or Barack Obama's campaign relishing the chance to go after McCain's perceived strength, the University of Mississippi's preparations for the Sept. 26 event received a curveball on Thursday.

For months, the Commission on Presidential Debates had assured Ole Miss that the focus of the debate at its Gertrude C. Ford Center would be on domestic issues. However, a joint announcement Thursday from the Republican and Democratic presidential campaigns said negotiations on the debates had resulted in a switch.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/aug/21/21debateWEB/

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:14 PM
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2. I hope both Obama and Biden watch Kerry's performance in his first debate vs. Bush in 2004
Kerry was concise, eloquent, convincing and still hard-hitting. Bush was impatient, irritated, unprepared and seemed even resentful that he had to be there. That debate erased Bush's lead at that point. I hope Obama and Biden both emulate Kerry's concise style that he used in that debate.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:17 PM
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4. We yes....but I believe I am talking about what WE must do.....
The candidates will have have to do what they do.....

I don't think managing our own candidate is what I'm talking about here.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:30 PM
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5. Kick.....
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:33 PM
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6. My foreign policy question for ALL Prez and VP candidates is
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 11:34 PM by Dover


one which I just happened to post in the Energy/Environment forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x171417

You can be sure that this will NOT be asked either by the MSM or in the debates because NEITHER party wants to tell the truth about this, nor do they want an informed/educated public:


Question:
How does your (the next administration's) foreign energy policy differ or resemble that laid out by the Silk Road Strategy?

Followup:
How does your proposed foreign policy inform and impact our domestic energy situation now and in the future?



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:36 PM
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8. Just know that within the next couple of days, I will repost something similar to this.....
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 11:56 PM by FrenchieCat
and I will provide email addresses and phone numbers to make it easy.

We can do this, as long as we don't think that we don't need to because we think someone else will.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:57 PM
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15. Great. Thanks for doing that. Would you do me a favor and
repost my question into your updated post in case I'm not around or miss it?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:36 PM
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7. k & r
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:42 PM
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9. Ha thanks!
I'll take it! :hi:

Preparation is 1/2 of everything; timing is the other.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:18 AM
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18. ha ha I was trying to remember that saying
uhh better safe than sorry .. preparation is half the battle of preparedness .. uh
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:47 PM
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10. Kickity
Have you posted over at Kos, or elsewhere, yet?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:49 PM
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12. I don't really post at KOS...although I used to years ago.
Do you post there?....cause if you do, you're welcome to this.

I just think that if we start to prepare, we might just get somewhere.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:55 PM
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14. I've posted at Kos, just a few times.
I have the membership precisely for reasons like this, when there's some important action to take.

If you like, I could copy and paste your OP, with credit to you at the header, of course.

Or I could wait until you put together the one with contact info.

Your call.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:57 PM
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16. Yes....wait till I do the one with the contact.....
this is just a preview, to get folks thinking about this.

If we are going to be engage in a war to save our country, then we need plans.....
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:02 AM
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17. Roger that!
I feel like I'm on a mission and a member of an army...

We're all on a mission, and to quote djmaddox1, "point us at a target"! :patriot:
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:49 PM
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11. k/r Will be watching for your follow up to this ...
anything proactive to help! I can't take the feeling of total helplessness reading @ the financial shitstorm coming at us - I need to focus on the longer term. Getting Obama in is my longer term - I've got kids & grandkids counting on it.

We're loaded ... point us at a target.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:51 PM
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13. I will.
I think we did a good collective job on Palin...

But sometimes it is easy not to continue being agressive.

Afterall, as soon as Obama/Biden are sworn in, we will have to stay
active.....so might as well start now; for good practice, you know. :)
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