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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:54 AM
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Bank meltdown wallops campaigns - "Wall Street will visibly affect Main Street..."
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Bank meltdown wallops campaigns

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13435.html

By MIKE ALLEN | 9/14/08 9:56 PM EST

America’s banking instability could upend the final 50 days of the presidential campaign, with both candidates forced to confront a calamity that has gotten only glancing attention during the first 20 months of the race for the White House.

Red flags about the nation’s economic infrastructure have been popping up at least since the collapse in March of the investment bank Bear Stearns. But neither Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) nor Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has talked in detail about the potential consequences for voters and the government.

Until now, the crisis seemed like a confusing Wall Street story. That all ended with the fast-moving events of Sunday, which The New York Times called “one of the most extraordinary days in Wall Street’s history.” A CNBC special report on Sunday night called it “a complete realignment of Wall Street.”

And that was before the extraordinary 9:30 p.m. announcement by the Federal Reserve of new efforts to shore up markets.

So it’s no longer an insider's game. The crisis is now at a tipping point where Wall Street will visibly affect Main Street: Home buyers, consumers and entrepreneurs will have even more trouble getting credit, slowing the nation’s job machinery.

Here are four huge effects for the campaigns:

1. The candidates had hoped to put off their detailed prescriptions until they were in office, unrolling an economic agenda in conjunction with an address to the new Congress. Now, there's no way to duck it.

But at a time when the economy is the top issue on voters’ minds, one of the candidates could wind up winning the neck-and-neck election by talking clearly and convincingly about the fallout and what should be done.


2. The new crisis crowds the candidates’ agendas in the stretch run, keeping them from talking about the issues that they had planned to focus on. But the candidates are creatively trying to meld the disaster into their existing messages.

McCain aides say he plans to use the news to underscore the reform message that he began hammering at the Republican National Convention.

“This is bad news for the country and yet another sign that we need to reform Wall Street,” a senior McCain official said. “The only way we can do that is by reforming Washington first. We will show McCain and Palin as the ticket who will take action on the economy and make sure the taxpayers aren't stuck with the bill.”

Obama aides say he will hammer the message that the market upheaval shows that the country can’t afford four more years of policies aligned with those of the current administration.

His running mate, Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.), was already scheduled to give a major speech Monday in St. Clair Shores, Mich., and is likely to get heavy coverage for his fiery elaboration on this theme.

3. Just like the markets, however, each candidate faces an enormous downside risk: Troubled times could make voters less likely to take a chance on Obama, with his shorter time in Washington. McCain could pay the price for the economic disruption on a Republican's watch, or if he looks like he doesn’t have the energy and creativity to reassure a worried nation.

4. They will also be more constrained when they get to Washington, with analysts estimating that the government takeover of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is likely to cost the Treasury $100 billion to $300 billion.

"This is the financial equivalent of Russia invading Georgia — an unexpected event that calls for leadership and direction,” said James Rickards, senior managing director for market intelligence at Omnis Inc., a research and analysis firm based in McLean, Va.

“This is an opportunity for both candidates to go beyond their (comments on) administration action and show how they would stabilize the system on a more lasting basis.”

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson “spent the cookie jar” with the takeover, a McCain adviser said
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:58 AM
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1. Well, if the campaigns depend on Economic talk. Obama wins the election across the board. n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:07 AM
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2. If he can master the sound byte. n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:09 AM
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5. Has Obama failed to master anything he's attempted? n/t
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Newshues Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:08 AM
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4. google Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson n/t
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:16 AM
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7. Google Phil Gramm and McCain vote on the repeal of Glass-Steagall.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:22 AM
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8. Are you a Dem?
McCain's issues with not understanding economics is a slap in the faceto our nation he wants to govern.

I read up on them but JJ stepped down back in June. And Franklin Raines has had nothing to do with FMx2 for 4 years.

While Phil Gramm just last a little over two months ago called us a country of whiners and we're making this shit up. That's not only his former advisor but has been his friend and associat for long term and would be at throughout and at the end of the elections. So, if by some unlikely chance McCain becomes Prez, be prepared to see PG running around telling us we're delusional while people are dying hungry.

I'm sure he'd be excited to learn he's laden the ground work for return to the French Revolution era.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:13 AM
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6. McCain: "Economics is Something That I've Really Never Understood"

McCain: "Economics is Something That I've Really Never Understood"



http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/12/mccain-economic.html

John McCain says that when it comes to economics he will have to rely upon others

because, though he's tried, he doesn't really get it himself:


McCain said ...

"The issue of economics is something that I've really never understood as well as I should. I understand the basics, the fundamentals, the vision, all that kind of stuff,'' he said. "But I would like to have someone I'm close to that really is a good strong economist. As long as Alan Greenspan is around I would certainly use him for advice and counsel."

McCain said his staff hates it when he discusses his shortcomings on economics, even though he has
read widely and studied the subject.

"I've never been involved in Wall Street, I've never been involved in the financial stuff, the financial workings of the country, so I'd like to have somebody intimately familiar with it," he said of a potential vice president.

(Note: List of McCain's advisers). (Update: Felix Salmon comments.)


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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:08 AM
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3. I suggested last week that Obama give a major speech on the economy from a swing state like
Ohio. I'll add to this suggestion now, an ad featuring McCain on the economy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO2lN1hGnc0

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:00 AM
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9. McCain is toast. He can't talk economics and Palin is a ditz. Looks like our ship came in!!!
Unless they pull a dirty trick...
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:02 AM
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10. And all it took was war, destruction, Depression, and economic collapse!
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:15 AM
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11. LOL. And the ship is still just a shimmering vision of hope on the horizon...
yyyiiikkes

Glad I spent more than I saved over the last few years... It would have gone down with the market so...
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:25 AM
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13. LMAO!!!
:spray:

"Glad I spent more than I saved over the last few years... It would have gone down with the market so..."

:P
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:24 AM
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12. ROTFLMAO!!!
:rofl: :rofl:

Normally I wouldn't laugh at something like this but it's been a long EIGHT years of this! :grr:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:22 AM
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14. And even with all of that, the polls are still neck and neck.
What a voting constituency!
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