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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:14 AM
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Remember, they want to privatize your social security
Seems to me, this is a good time for Obama and Biden to remind the American people of why privatizing social security was not, is not, and never will be a good idea.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:16 AM
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1. thank you soup kitchen
SS privatization is one of the GOP staple issues.

YES! Hit this point hard.

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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:17 AM
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2. Yeah, my husband is a nervous wreck thinking about it......
I know it won't happen to his, as he's already receiving it, but still.....anything they can do to privatize everything they will try to do. :grr: :grr: :grr:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:18 AM
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3. recommend -- remember there were dems who wanted to do the same. nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:24 AM
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4. You mean Piratize it !
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:30 AM
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5. Bumper sticker:
If Social Security had been privatized,
your golden years would be spent
in a cardboard box.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:30 AM
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6. This is an issue I'd slap McSame with in the last month, it would stick better in peoples minds
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:33 AM
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7. this is a big issue
when I talk to people who are apathetic to politics, as soon as you mention Social Security, they sit up and pay attention. It gets personal.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:35 AM
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8. those repigs will take social security away from the people too.
if those SOB's get in. how much abuse are the american people going to take? ENOUGH.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:40 AM
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9. So does Obama.
Guess you haven't been paying attention for the past year.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:58 AM
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15. Really? When?
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:42 AM
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10. With the financial meltdown in full bloom, its the perfect time to
drive this home.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:42 AM
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11. Marsha Blackburn was just on MSNBC a few minutes ago, talking about
how this is a good thing. Putting people in charge of their own Social Security. They seem like they're totally oblivious to what is going on out there.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:46 PM
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26. Far from being oblivious. The Repbubs want to hand all that profit to ...
Wall Street.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:42 AM
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12. Video link of McCain promoting privatization of Social Security
"Without privatization, I don't see how you can possibly, over time, make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyBwMy27Aoc

John McCain is a LIAR.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:43 AM
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22. I'll tell you how, John. For starters, demand that full Social Security taxes be paid on full wages
Right now, thank you Ronald the Raygun, Social Security contributions are only paid on the first $90,000 of taxable income. So in other words someone that makes $10,000,000 per year pays the SAME AMOUNT AS SOMEONE THAT MAKES $90,000.

Secondly, STOP letting Congress "borrow"--STEAL!--from the Social Security trust fund.

Thirdly, REQUIRE Congress to begin replacing and repaying all funds already removed from the Social Security Trust "borrowed" by Congress.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:53 AM
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13. Scary, Terrifying ontop of furious beyond measure. O and B should be hammering this point home with
pure ruthlessness - it's the perfect time.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:56 AM
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14. AND...
it's a losing proposition politically. Even GWB knows that.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:02 AM
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16. actually that debate can be considered over
for the moment at least, people are against it, and McCain is trying to deny he favors it.

What Obama needs to do now is get people to understand that McCain and the republicans favor privatization.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:30 AM
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18. Never count those cockroaches out
I'm glad you added "for the moment at least." It may delay them, but the American public has the same attention span and short-term memory as a six-month-old puppy.

They'll be back.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 12:21 PM
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25. i totally agree
conservatives opposed Social Security bitterly from the start, they've never accepted it or given up trying to destroy it, and they never will. We will always have to fight to protect it and Medicare, which they also loathe. They see them as socialist programs, and actually they're correct about that. Very popular and successful socialist programs, the worst kind from their point of view.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:08 AM
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17. This was one of the first thoughts that I had this morning
as I awoke to the chaos on Wall Street.

This message should be shouted loudly, could shift FL for us.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:32 AM
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19. If social security had been privatized we'd be lining up rooms at the poor house. nt
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:33 AM
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20. Biden mentioned in his speech today how McCain stood with Bush to promote SS privatization, and also
how the American people say no, and that the proposal went nowhere.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:41 AM
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21. Yes they do...
...great post. Let's keep it out there. :)
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:51 AM
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23. I have 35-37 years until retirement
My wife and I have a long term strategy with our retirment and the cornerstone of that is to forget about SS because neither of us believe we'll see dime one from it by the time we retire.

That said, if you've got a long time until you retire, this is a pretty good time to get in the market. We're maxing out on our employer matches.

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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:53 AM
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24. This idiotic idea should have died
with the dotcom bust. NASDAQ was over 5000 back in 2000, and it's never come close to going back to that level. Are people's memories really that short?
:banghead:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:10 PM
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27. We already have historical proof that it doesn't work.
Both England and Chile tried it and it failed. We already know it's a bad idea, but if that hasn't convinced anyone, this economic meltdown should.
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