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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:50 AM
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I don't think the "Mcain is Bush" theme is effective
4 more years of bush, blah, blah, blah doesn't work. I'd much rather see, "McCain is worse than bush. McCain has less of a grasp on the economy. McCain's foreign policy is more agressive than bush's, etc".

Trying to morph McCain into bush just doesn't seem to work.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:57 AM
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1. McCain is Bush without the depth of knowledge and insight? (makes one think Bush had knowledge and
insight)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 09:58 AM
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2. Cali, I agree with you. McCain MUST be seen as the riskiest option.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:00 AM
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4. I just don't think McCain=bush resonates
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 10:04 AM by cali
hell, it doesn't even resonate with me. Time to portray McCain as riskier, scarier, more inept and incompetent than bush.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:01 AM
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6. oops, you've a typo. Should be McCain=Bush
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:04 AM
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9. thanks! changed it.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:00 AM
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3. its simplistic. of course mccain is not bush. he is his own disaster in waiting.
i agree it is ineffective.

they should just keep pointing out the facts.
mccain supported the bush disasters 90+% of the time.
they need to keep pointing out each specific instance where mccain is part owner of each of the policies.

today is a good day to show how mccain has joined in the republican gutting of corporate financial responsibility and how this is the result.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:00 AM
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5. I think it should go farther back than Bush - Back to Reagan and the crazy-assed neo-cons
Nothing has changed in their party in the last 28 years except they've gotten meaner and greedier. John McCain is no different than the rest of them...he hates women, he hates the poor, he hates the disadvantaged and he LOVES MONEY AND POWER.
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:03 AM
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8. that won't fly though
A lot of voters have a more kindly view of McCain, so I don't think the public will accept taunts of he hates women, the poor, etc. They may accept that his POLICIES hurt those groups, but you can't make it as personal as hatred or it will ring hollow.

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:18 AM
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11. The group he has aligned himself in order to get the nomination DOES
he has morphed into a neo-con in order to be the GOP nominee - he is NOT John McCain Maverick - he is one of them.

But, hey, we all have opinions - we don't have to agree :hi:
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:02 AM
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7. agreed
Now that voters are really paying attention (last 6-7 weeks till election) this message is sounding more hollow than it has. McCain, with Palin, is now trying to claim the mantle of change and Obama needs to focus more on attacking McCain for who he is, not for who Bush is.

But Biden is apparently doing a Bush 44 speech today.

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:07 AM
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10. Insult campaigning never works for Democrats.
The only time we win is when we focus on what we can do, and make it sound better than what they will do. We can go negative in that regard--their plans haven't worked, their plans won't work, etc. But when we start that "Their VP is dumber than ours, their candidate is more criminal than hours, yada yada yada" we lose every time.

The next time a Democrat says we have to fight nasty because that's the only way to win, pop them in the mouth, and then ask when the last time we won by getting nasty was. Gore didn't do it. Clinton and Carter didn't do it.

Also, we are fighting history on this campaign. First black candidate. First Democratic ticket without a southerner since the 30s. We need to be talking more about ourselves, less about the other side. People don't like the Republicans, and the only way we can lose this thing is if they can't find a reason to like us more. So far, that's about all we are giving them, though. All these stupid-ass Limbaugh-esque nicknames--McSame, McLame, or worse--just make our side look like the less mature, and with all we are fighting to overcome, we don't need that, too.

We will win by convincing the voters we will do a good job, not by convincing them the other side is bad. If we couldn't beat Ronald Reagan or Dan Quayle that way, we sure won't beat McCain/Palin that way.

Just my thoughts. Not that anyone cares. Call me Cassandra.
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