Photos of the 3000 McCain supporters at the empty 16,000 capacity stadium

[Ichingcarpenter]

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. makes you wonder about the polls doesn't it!

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. I don't wonder about the polls since they won't

divulge the details of their methodology anymore

But these photos tell a lot.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

14. yes you are right!

[vaberella]

21. Polls are a set up. At this point, they're a crock. n/t

[live love laugh]

46. GMTA. nt

[CakeGrrl]

2. Where and when was this? Great NON-turnout!

[ingac70]

5. Jacksonville, Florida...

if I'm not mistaken.

[Lochloosa]

27. Your right. He was here this morning.

They'll have to disinfect that place before I see another concert there.

[trueblue2007]

47. You should have heard Rachel Maddow tonight talking about McCain LYING!!!

Yes!!! She called the McCain campaign out on the fact that they are lying about the crowd numbers.

And Rachael has the facts to dispute the lies!!!

[TooRaLoo]

53. Wow, I would have expected so many more in Florida. nt

[earthside]

12. Just McCain?

That's what I want to know ...

When? Where? Was McCain doing a solo act?

If this was yesterday or today and was just McCain, then it really does tell quite a story.

They may have to redo their signs: "Palin - McCain".

[ingac70]

3. I hope this is a sign...

of the numbers of Repukes who show up on election day.

[blondeatlast]

4. How weak and pathetic is that? Wow. nt

[tblue]

7. When/where was this pitiful -ahem- rally?

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. Jacksonville- Now the question is did the TV pundits talk about this?

Jacksonville, Florida's largest city with more than 800,000 people, voted for 58% for George W. Bush in 2004. When President Bush visited Jacksonville during the 2004 election, he had nearly 50,000 supporters fill Alltel Stadium. Jacksonville Times-Union, October 24, 2004


In contrast, John McCain only drew 3,000 at the most to see him this morning at Jacksonville Memorial Arena, which has a capacity of 16,000. The crowd cheered for Bush and Alaska's Sarah Palin louder than they cheered for McCain. Media should expect the McCain campaign to lie about the attendance at the event as they have done numerous times in recent weeks.

[IndyOp]

22. Wow - 3,000 vs. 50,000 that is quite a difference. I wonder if there were

big differences in the amount of lead time to advertise the event. The Obama campaign announces their events a few days in advance and have overflow crowds -- if the McCain campaign is replicating that approach it is obviously backfiring BIG TIME.

[tblue]

32. Bwaaaaaaahahaha! He is NOTHING without his nanny.

[tblue]

33. delete dupe

[tblue]

34. delete dupe

[doc03]

48. Brian Williams on NBC News talked about it tonight,

they showed the empty seats and he said McCain was not drawing the crowds he had gotten used to when appearing with Palin.

[mcg]

58. A rally is supposed to muster for a common purpose, to arouse for action.

These people do not look mustered or aroused.
I think "McCain rally" qualifies as an oxymoron.

[gratefultobelib]

8. No Sarah syndrome. I love it!!

[BumRushDaShow]

9. OMG!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

And they even tried to use a flag to cover over some empty seats! :rofl:

[Marnieworld]

10. That's your poll right there folks

:patriot:

[DiamondG]

62. OMG. well, then no need for you to vote... hate to break it to you, but the people who go to ralli

rallies are a totally different bunch of people than the ones who dutifully show every time on election day, cast their vote, and go home. by your logic, obama's going to get 5 or 10 TIMES as many votes as McCain, since that's about the ratio of their crowd sizes. i see disturbing signs that the obama camp does not really understand what wins elections. i'll tell you this, it's not people in a stadium.

[Marnieworld]

63. I disagree

[book_worm]

13. Is he alone, or is Palin with him? he can't draw a crowd alone which is why she will be rejoining

him later this week in key swing states.

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. She is in Golden Colorado and Politico said she drew twice as many

fans







http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Palin_outdraws_McCain.html?showall

[DeschutesRiver]

20. If Palin is not with him, this completely explains why he harps on the town halls with Obama

he can only draw a crowd in one of two ways - with the fraud Palin who was bought as eye-candy for the old geezer repubs or with Obama, who packs 'em in with his speeches and ideas for our future.

By himself, McCain no longer has a significant draw factor. And that is making the short man pucker up.

[cyndensco]

15. I wonder if they were thinking they were going to fill the place.

:rofl:

[marylanddem]

16. This is why I don't believe the polls showing neck and neck

[LibertyorDeath]

17. Goes with this

You know who you are. You are LYING to US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dirty, corrupt SOBs!

wowimthere
Original message
You know who you are. You are LYING to US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dirty, corrupt SOBs! Updated at 7:59 AM

How can Obama raise 66 million dollars in August, gain another 500,000 donors and have over 80 thousand people show up at his Denver speech and be tied with a corrupt politician who can't even get 5000 people to hear him speak, who can't raise money on his own and has to lie about the crowd sizes to create perception that he's doing well enough to be considered a presidential hopeful?

80 percent of this country believes that this country is going in the wrong direction and I'm supposed to believe that McCain who votes with Bush 90 percent of the times is tied with Obama?

COME ON!

All indications are that Dems will gain more seats in the House and the Senate giving the Dems an overwhelming majority to push their agenda but Obama who is a popular Democrat who can get disaffected Republicans and Independents to vote for the Democratic ticket may not get to the white house because he's tied with a Republican who was responsible for enabling Bush?

COME ON!

The Democrats have registered 11,000,000 more Democrats than the Republicans and I'm supposed to believe that Obama and McCain are tied?

COME ON!

McCain picks a woman to be his running mate (for political reasons) who has absolutely no foreign policy experience (a credential he ripped Obama for), who is as corrupt as he is and is just a heartbeat away from the presidency and he and Obama are tied?

COME ON!

All together!

Chuck Todd is LYING!
MSNBC is LYING!
CNN is LYING!
ABC is LYING!
CBS is LYING!
Wallstreet Journal is LYING!
USA Today is LYING!

And the polls...?

GALLUP IS LYING!
RASMUSSEN IS LYING!

THERE IS NO TIE! This is a fabrication. This is an illusion. This is a fairytale.

The Media and the Polls they road in on are FULL of SHIT! They want you to believe the illogical. It's a LIE. How can they get away with THIS LIE?

Obama and McCain are NOT TIED! Good commonsense defies the logic of the polls. The media who sponsors these polls is holding these polls up as a way of pushing their own agenda. People should do one thing consistently. Write or call the media outlets to tell them that you aren't gullible, that you know that they are trying to sway opinion and possibly the election.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7073023&mesg_id=7073023

[DeadManInc]

19. Their convention was the same way. Fuck the poles.

[uponit7771]

23. THERE'S NO WAY I believe the polls after this pic. Where were McSame at? Inner city Detroit?

My goodness, this isn't good news for him if he was in a more Rethug town

[azmouse]

24. hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[yurbud]

25. MORAL of this story: if McCain claims they won the election, Obama better stand his ground and we

better hit the streets.

[rateyes]

26. Look at the bright side, John H.H. McCain,

at least they didn't have to wait in line in the hot sun. :rofl:

[intheflow]

28. That's some beautiful photography there, Folks!

:rofl:

[chicagoexpat]

29. John McCain Lie Counter Web Page

John McCain Lie Counter Web Page
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7075041&mesg_id=7075041

[EC]

30. Was that event him and her?

Or just him?

[MagickMuffin]

31. If this were an Obama event the seats would have been packed to the rafters

This just looks pathetic.

[Ichingcarpenter]

35. It is a lie to the viewers on TV that think he has stadium size support

When he can't fill a bingo hall

[MagickMuffin]

41. Smoke and Mirrors, Camera angle close ups only, no wide angle shots

That's the ticket. Never show the larger picture.

[YvonneCa]

50. Their convention was the same. n/t

[MagickMuffin]

51. Yep, it made me think only of Lily White Sheets

Not much diversity in their crowds. Go figure, when they put down all races, except their own. Ya know it's all the other races that America is facing the problems we're experiencing:eyes:

[L0oniX]

36. Hell ..I've played for bigger crowds than that and in bigger venues in my rock band days.

[gmoney]

37. ROFL

looks like there would be plenty of room for everyone to roll on the floor laughing...

[1corona4u]

38. BUT, the thing you should know too is....

Jacksonville is 29% black. So there's a good chance all of that 29% will turn out to vote this year, where as in the past, they not have. :-)

[FrenchieCat]

39. Folks there scratching their asses,

you think? :rofl:

[my3boyz]

40. Why in the world do they get a large venue like that when they know

they can't fill it? He needs to stick to his small venues.

[flvegan]

44. Perception. Not that many folks will look for pics of his crowds.

Kind of like being able to assume the "success" of a band. Let's say you've never heard of either Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd. If you heard that Led Zeppelin was playing to 50,000 ticketholders at Madison Square Garden and that Pink Floyd was playing to "a good crowd" at the Orlando High School gymnasium, you could draw certain conclusions...

That may not be it, but I had fun pointing out McCain's failure to draw interest.

[Raschel]

61. Why in the world do they get a large venue like that

Maybe they were planning on having a captive audience and the band cancelled. LOL.

You know, like at Sturgeon when the old geiser appeared BEFORE the bands. Nobody was there to see him.

[Uncle Joe]

42. I would be willing to bet they heard echos in there. n/t

[firedupdem]

43. This is why I don't believe the polls. Nobody is coming out to

see "halfdead" spin his lies...even with her I really don't think he could have filled the place. Half the people that came to his half empty convention have since passed on. Hate to say it but come on!

[RoadRage]

45. Where is this? Any chance we have pics of Obama filling up this same stadium??

Ohh.. and was Palin not with him on this trip? Seriously - when your pathetic, underqualified VP draws twice the crowd that you do.. it's time to throw in the hat.

[TheDonkey]

49. "Mission Accomplished!" Repukes best friend= Smoke & Mirrors

[Atman]

52. Does anyone STILL believe the 50/50 split hokum?

Come on, people. The media is playing us because they put all their money into the GOP, and the GOP gave them deregulation. Period. They simply are not telling the truth about the current mood of this country, vote-wise.

.

[TooRaLoo]

54. NO way. Not possible. nt

[SemiCharmedQuark]

55. They needed more giant flags to cover the rest of the empty seats.

[WhiteTara]

56. that's really 3000? Looks more

like 1200 or so!

[ecstatic]

57. Thank you. This makes me think we're gonna win :)

I don't read or pay much attention to the race these days. I don't trust Americans to do the right thing, for the most part--but this gives me hope. Only one side appears to be FIRED UP AND READY TO M'FKIN GO!!!

[concerned canadian]

59. laughed so hard inside and even out loud

seeing the pics and reading the posts here tonight. The polls have been effective tools of the Bad Guys in the past,

and now the Truth in all its shabbiness, as the case may be, says differently, that someone's been lying.

And its not the Good Guys.

[Raschel]

60. McCain's itinerary

Check out the scheduled stops coming up for McCain AND Palin. I'll bet they're all small venues.

They don't do well in large cities. They like to appeal to bigots.