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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:53 PM
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Palin Down the Toilet
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8242

Just this morning Marc Ambinder wrote:

America's gut reaction to Sarah Palin has been positive, and so her stumbles during the Charlie Gibson interview might not really settle in.

Based on the data we have, this is false. Palin is in a favorability free fall. In just 4 days, since her interview with Gibson in fact, the gap between those who view her favorably and those who hold unfavorable views has almost disappeared. According to Research 2000 polling, more than half the country held a favorable opinion of Palin during the 3 days prior to Sept. 11 (52%) while 35% held unfavorable attitudes. That was the day the Gibson interview aired. The 17-point net positive has fallen, as of today, to just 4 points:

Sept. 11: +17 net positive
Sept. 12: +14
Sept. 13: +9
Sept. 14: +5
Sept. 15 (today): +4

Palin is by far the least popular of the 4 candidates for Pres./VP and I don't think her slide is over yet. Because she is McCain's creation, she is taking him down as well. He had a +13 net positive just three days ago, then +12, then +9 and today just +6. By comparison both Barack Obama and Joe Biden are holding steady at +16 net positives.

As I argued yesterday, Palin can help drag down McCain. Certainly, in the end, it's about McCain. He decided she was the best prepared after all. Her inadequacy tells voters so much about McCain that bad news about her will continue to hurt him as well.
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chicagoexpat Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:54 PM
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1. John McCain Lie Counter Web Page
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:56 PM
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2. Yup, she's tanking big time! It's great!
We just have to wait and see how these drops for McLame and Palin effect the votes.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:12 PM
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31. Sarah Palin Tanking = boobs drooping.
My reason for her popularity drop.



(Mine too a little bit ....)
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 01:57 PM
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3. The shiny new object has so quickly lost
her luster
:nopity:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:00 PM
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4. I said it was a mistake to choose her, and I expect I'll be right by the time
November rolls around. McLoser should have picked someone accomplished and competent, someone strong on knowledge of the economy.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:18 PM
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26. Let me be the first to say... YOU WERE RIGHT!
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 02:19 PM by peacetrain
:) and so was I

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:37 PM
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29. There were Indian
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 02:37 PM by zidzi
astrologers who said back before Obama was even our nominee that mccain would be brought down by a woman..they didn't know how at the time..even speculating his wife. It's not over yet but I have kept this in mind while all this eeirly plays out.

Fitting Just Desserts if it's the gimmicky one.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:01 PM
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5. Sarah Palin: Your 15 minutes of fame are almost up n/t
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:08 PM
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11. thaaaank gaaaaad!
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 02:08 PM by corkhead
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:03 PM
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6. Someone should let the media know that her star is fading
because she is making it onto the headlines in a very positive light every day. They say that Biden is a flop and she is wonderful.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:06 PM
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10. not all of them. where did you see that?
The networks have been doing a pretty good job debunking the lies and spin. Maybe you were watching FOX?
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:35 PM
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33. Wolf just mentioned that people are saying Biden might have been a mistake.
I could have crowned him! WHAT DO THEY WANT?
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:24 AM
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34. Ah Wolfie Wolfie. He's always stirring up the muck, isn't he? nt
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:24 AM
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18. Chris Matthews said ...
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 11:24 AM by murbley40
"Biden is ineffective"
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:04 PM
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7. Cool.
So she's a flash-in-the-pan. And from now until the election she'll be the albatross around McSame's neck. I hope a lot of their voters sink back into the apathy they were in before.

Meanwhile, Obama and Biden will keep talking about their intelligent solutions to America's real problems and draw people nearer. I'll be watching for those undecideds to swing back and stay, especially after the first few debates.

Biden's will be an especially fun one to watch.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:13 PM
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13. It would be nice if she went away quietly,

but I expect a reality show is in her future. Nest up will be those 3:00am infomercials or Home Shopping Network, showing off her new line of mukluks. We won't see the last of her for some time. Eventually she'll fade away.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:05 PM
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8. Wait until people see her grade point average in school if the 1.0 is true. Lord almighty.
Anyone being President or Vice President is an understatement.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:19 PM
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27. How can you get a degree with a 1.0?
That doesn't sound right to me.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:44 PM
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30. She ended up going to several different colleges
and universities to finish her degree. (I started to say "undergrad degree" but that was pointless as it's the only one she has.)

Anyway, she most likely ended up graduating with a 2.0, at least. Like you, I can't imagine how you could be allowed to get a degree with a 1.0. But from what I understand, her GPA was that low at more than one point, thus the need to collect credits from here and there, etc.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:05 PM
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9. her fake rise as celebrity is fading quickly.
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 02:10 PM by alyce douglas
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:13 PM
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12. The bloom is off the ros., um, turd.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:24 PM
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21. Turds don't bloom.
They blossom.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:16 PM
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14. "Based on the data they have"

What data?

What is Research 2000?

If this 'new data' shows people can't stand Palin, then why is this asshole and her old asshole showing well in other polls?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:08 PM
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15. Honeymoon is over
Good. Not much to love after you scrape away the obvious.

Biden on the otherhand...straight shooter.
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 04:22 PM
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16. Thank SNL
I really don't think you can overstate the effect that the SNL skit has had and will continue to have on her (dwindling) popularity. Nothing resonates like humor. You can try and get people to read all the information debunking her lies and exposing her incompetence, but nothing sticks like a few minutes of good old laughter - - at her.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:14 AM
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17. McCain would've been better advised to select Lorena Bobbit.
:rofl:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:25 AM
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19. And today (9/16) it's only +1
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:13 PM
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32. Wow. Here are the latest numbers:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:31 AM
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20. Phalin is imploding. Will she even have a clue during the debate
Biden is on the way up however. Gave a great speech yesterday and has gone on the attack. Palin is giving the same (!) speech on the campaign trail that she used at the convention. A one trick pony. MSM finally seeing through her lies.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:56 PM
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22. How many times will she say "Joe" in the VP Debate?
Prolly, at least 50.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:59 PM
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23. When all is said and done,
McCain is going to have a difficult recovery politically. He sold his soul and he'll never get it back.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:08 PM
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24. And this is why it would be a mistake to back off of her.
People say we don't vote for VP's and they're right. But we do factor it in, and she's a factor to weigh. Let's keep reminding people just how bad of a factor she is. :)
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:27 AM
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35. Exactly all the people who were saying back off her..
don't focus on her, were dead wrong.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:14 AM
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38. I agree. I am "concerned" about the suggestion that we ignore Palin.
McCain's age and ill-health make Palin likely to become president if they win this election.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:13 PM
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25. (pauses....shifts to the right) In what respect Charlie?
:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:32 PM
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28. BravFreakinO! Only sorry it's too late to Rec'd!
palin's being dissected like a frog with good reason since the corporate media is shoving her down our throats like a fucking pill.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:09 AM
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36. As a matter of fact...

Sorry...but a lot of women voters are going over to McCain/Palin ticket - she is especially popular with the Hillary women clan.
Just check the other headlines here on DU! It's a myth that The Sahrah Palin phenom is going away - actually it's gaining ground.
(JAT)...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:12 AM
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37. BULLSHIT
I can see how CONCERNED you are about that.

You're WRONG, you are espousing perhaps a POLL that was shown on MSNBC today that was OLD, they are showing ancient figures to prop her up.

Take this shit somewhere else where people want to hear it, and don't come back and claim it's some kind of reality, maybe YOUR reality, and YOUR Job to post bullshit like this...
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:19 AM
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40. Who are you talking to - do you kiss your mother with that keyboard?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 10:58 AM
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41. My mother's dead
and so is your negative bullshit antiquated poll.

dead. Useless. Negative. Non Truthful.

And you know it. If you didn't before, you know it now.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:16 AM
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39. Did you check Kos' Research 2000 poll today?
For the first time, Palin's unfavorability (45%) is greater than her favorability (44%).

http://www.dailykos.com/dailypoll/2008/09/17

She's well on her way to Cheney-level popularity levels (though my guess is that she'll be more popular than Cheney solely because the ignant think she's got that MILF factor.)
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:00 AM
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42. I prefer her
MILI factor

Mothers I'd Like to IMPEACH :)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:04 AM
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43. Well, a poke in the eye with a sharp stick is more popular than Cheney... NT
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:21 AM
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44. ...
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:30 AM
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45. Fabulous; but of course I still have to wonder at the nutcases who EVER thought she was good
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