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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:46 PM Original message |
Chuck Todd: I admit that we could be substantially underpolling Dems in VA and OH |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. cellphones.....i predict that the polling will be shown to be extraordinarily outdated |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. its not just cell phones but voters who never voted before. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Cellular phones are no longer limited to specific segments of the population.... |
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crazylikafox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. everybody's got a cell phone, but I don't know anybody under 30 with a landline |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It depends on where you live. Under 30 are traditionally the most difficult to get on the phone... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Hehe, i don't know anybody over 30 that doesn't have a P.C. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. but then he went on to add |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. They can get the list from the county |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. But from their established methodology you cannot give the same weight |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. They can poll All Americans |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. no they can't poll large numbers and they never had |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Yes. A representative number of ALL Americans |
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Boz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. The pollseters have to pay for lists and dont, buy limited updates, just mains |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Why are you making excuses for shitty polling? n/t |
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Boz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Just the opposite, Im saying thats why they dont get new voters,and I have said Polls are useless |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. it's human nature to be influenced by polls. always has been. some people will do anything not to |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. But then went on to say that Obama will lose Wisconsin and Michigan because of race. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. It will be interesting to see how MI is looking a week from now |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Said 'could' not will |
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Boz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. MI yes but WI, is a coinflip, this election is all about CO, NV and NM, when the others slip those |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. PCIntern: I admit that Chuckie Todd is a RW Troll with Potemkin Facial Hair n/t |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. He's hedging...doesn't want to look like an idiot Novemeber 5 |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. That's exactly right - he knows that the polls are way off and he is trying |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. Chukie Tee admits he doesn't have a clue. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. He bought our affection during the primaries. |
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endthewar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
12. "likely votesr" often includes whether or not you've voted before |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
19. I hope its a blowout |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. Manipulation makes every state iffy, and only vast numbers register that BS button. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. I hope that there will be a huge surprise! |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. They keep polling the same people |
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madcaplaughed (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. hoping |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. This is a GOP town |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
31. Here's the fucker on KO...... |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
33. My relatives in Ohio said that Obama was way more popular |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
35. Correct. The polling technique only guages likely changes in '04 voters' preferences. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
36. they poll people who have never voted before, they just don't "count" them |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
37. I know it's wishful thinking, but I hope we win in 45 states.... |
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