Is Chuck Todd a RW tool?

[sniffa]

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[Clintonista2]

19. Gee, you're a pleasant one aren't you?

Take your homophobia somewhere else kid.

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[Captain Hilts]

21. Spare us. nt

[Dinger]

2. I'd Love To See Someone Throw A Pie In His Smug Fucking Face

I have hated him since his days on C-Span. He's as ass (no offense to assholes everywhere).

[AnAnonymousDemocrat]

54. Hell yeah!

I don't usually get excited about that sort of thing, but the image of Todd getting a high-speed pie in the face is awesome!

I would think that pie sticks to facial hair pretty well too. :+

[calmblueocean]

3. Chuck Todd is the guy who "uninvited" and shut out Kucinich from one of the final primary debates

He broke his word and I have zero respect for the man.

[Dinger]

60. Yeah, Fuck Him (nt)

[Seen the light]

4. DU is so fickle

Back during the primary season, people were slobbering all over Chuck Todd as he was telling how impossible it was going to be for Hillary to win even before Texas and Ohio voted.

For the record, I don't think he's GREAT, but he's one of the better ones out there. Certainly no right-wing tool, just because someone says something negative about the Obama campaign on a cable news outlet doesn't mean that he's a right-wing tool.

Keep in mind though...I haven't had a chance to see a bit of election coverage on TV since the conventions.

[Shakespeare]

9. What you said.

His job isn't to be a cheerleader for either side; he's an analyst and a polling wonk. He's all about numbers, and he simply comments on the data he gets.

Note that he does often comment on whether a poll may or may not be dependable. Today, for example, he said the VA and OH polls may be under-polling democrats. That does NOT mean they're running deliberately bad polls, it just means that their polling methods don't include a proportionate number of cell phone users, don't include newly registered voters, etc.

No, he's not a tool.

[sniffa]

18. I consider him a professional

He doesn't choose sides, just crunches numbers (though he appears to leak out once in a while, that he's pro-Dem IMO).

I've read so many over-emotional responses to Todd (today especially) I figured I'd run a poll. Heh, look at some of the hysterical responses to this thread alone.

:hi:

[Shakespeare]

20. Yup. Some of them are knee-jerkily hilarious.

Todd's a wonk, and I agree with you--I suspect he leans Dem. It was difficult for him to conceal his excitement about Obama during the primaries, and I think that was genuine. He may report bad polling news on the dems, but I've NEVER seen him all gushy over McCrazy.

:hi: :loveya:

[sniffa]

28. Very true.

I love seeing the same DUers shitting themselves now over Todd.

:hi: :loveya:

[ErinBerin84]

13. I would see him contradict himself on that all of the time too

One day, he would say that it would be impossible for Clinton to get the nomination unless she won PA by 20 points, and when it was just barely double digits, he was in the camp with the rest of the media whores calling it a game changing "blow out". And after the primaries, when discussing Clinton supporters, he laughs and says "haha, but it's our fault too...Clinton supporters were led to believe all along that there was a fifty percent chance of her getting the nomination right until the end, when in reality, Clinton had a much bigger hurdle after February and the media did not do them a service by presenting the primaries as if it was a horserace until June." He waffled on the Clinton issue , once all the cool kids in the media were bitching about how Obama couldn't "close the deal", so I do see him as being a good analyst, but susceptible to contradicting his own points once it becomes the network talking point.

[sniffa]

17. Bingo

:thumbsup:

[MadBadger]

5. None of the above

Hes not pro-dem or pro Republican.

[grantcart]

12. agreed

[Dinger]

6. Let's Put It This Way: "Is faux "news" a RW Channel?

'nuff said.

[redqueen]

7. No more than anyone else in his position.

Rachel and Keith are the exceptions... Chris Matthews occasionally goes off the chain... most of them seem like cowed dogs though...

[Cosmocat]

46. That is my take - I think he has been leashed in ...

I think he is a D, honestly.

But, I have been seeing a lot more lately that he does what so many other MSNBCers do - when they are on an R show like Scarboro, they run down Obama, when they are on a show like KOs they support KOs take, and during the day, they ALL neuter Ds at all times.

He wasn't like this at first, but in the last couple of weeks I think he has been assimilated more so.

Russerts little pig son. I caught his first live air performance at the Dem convention. His "job" was to report on the youth vote. NOW, keeping in mind that this IS, undeniably, BO's realm, he kind of just spoke what he knew to be reality, and it sounded good for Obama, and he didn't even mention McCain.

I caught him the next day, the second time they put him on the air, and it was astounding - he did a complete 360, talking about how McCain has really done a better job of going after the youth vote and, that line you hear ALL of these whores do all day long "BO is in big trouble if his trend continues, he can't win this election without the youth vote."

ONE DAY, and they got this little puke in line.

I have been folling Todd since he started getting air time on C-Span, and always thought he had a genuine love of his job. But, I also thought I saw an extra twinkle in his eye when he talked about Ds.

Again, the last few weeks, I have been saddened to see him sell out more to the fall back position for MSM - they don't HAVE to positively propogate for Rs, but they DO have to marginalise Ds at every opportunity. I never saw him go out of his way to do this until the last couple of weeks.

[stranger81]

8. does a bear poop in the woods? [eom]

[nevergiveup]

10. None of the above

He is rather a media tool. If Obama runs away with this no one will give Chuck Todd the time of day. The media has to keep this election close and Chuck is doing the best he can in this endeavor.

[DJ13]

11. Yes, but tools are never aware of being used

[katty]

14. i thought he might be-but he is such a stats geek-crunching

numbers are his world

[jillan]

15. I may be the only DUer that really likes Chuck Todd - even tho I don't agree with him all of the

time.

[renate]

23. no you aren't!

I like him a lot.

I would also like to know something about his skin-care routine--boy howdy, he looks young.

[gravity]

16. He is an impartial analysts

Not every neutral observer is going to say things you agree with. He could be wrong with his analysts, but he doesn't have an agenda towards one side or another.

[FrenchieCat]

24. Yep...as soon as the primaries were over.

That was the plan, afterall!

Gain our trust, and then stab us in the back.
Woulda worked, but NOT THIS TIME!

[DeepModem Mom]

25. What we are doing here is shooting the messenger. Most of us loved Chuck Todd...

when we loved the numbers he was showing us. This race was going to tighten; it's hard for a Dem to be elected President. Is any other analyst showing us numbers very different from his?

I still like Chuck Todd. I've observed no history of his shilling for the GOP or the Right, and I watch a lot of MSNBC.

[sniffa]

27. People (including DUers) are stupid

He's just a numbers guy. He doesn't lie about them.

In fact, today he offered the caveat that he thinks VA and OH may be underpolling for Obama, and the shrieking banshees are hitting him for that.

[tomg]

26. He does what he does: crunches

numbers and bullshits about them. I think he leans dem, but that is just a sense. Sometimes I really like him. Sometimes I think he's a bit of a putz. But, hey, who isn't? I really don't see any bias either way there.

[KittyWampus]

29. Sniffa, I really can't tell. He DOES repeat Republican/McCain talking points without

saying "from the RNC".

Example, he chimed in with all Republican operatives and mediawhores when they began saying election was a referendum on Obama. All these people on tv starting saying it on the same day.

[JBoris]

30. Rachel was one of the first ones saying that (kinda)...

To be fair she was saying "if" this election turns into a referendum on Obama, he would lose.
But still, she was among the first using that phrase. I don't think all media BS comes from the RNC, just most of it.

[sniffa]

31. Rachel Maddow is a RW tool!!1!!911!!

[JBoris]

33. I wasn't saying that at all. I was just trying to make the point that sometimes

the media is full of their own BS, not always the RNC's.

[sniffa]

37. Oh, I know

I'm just mocking some people.

[JBoris]

49. Ah, good. I wasn't sure who the "ones" where mocking. nt

[vanderBeth]

32. I don't care if he saying is for Rep/Dem, he always seems like a schmuck to me.

I don't like watching him.

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. Chuck Todd is a HORSERACE TOOL; he's a WHITEBOARD TOOL

He desperately wants a tight race so he can have a "whiteboard moment," and be super famous.

The guy is a selfish piece of shit, and everything that comes out of his mouth is meant to accrue to his own personal benefit.

[RepublicanElephant]

35. chuck puts a friendly, harmless face on these fradulent poll numbers.

his job is to put the air of legitimacy on these nbc/wall street murdoch polls.

[sniffa]

36. I'm excited to see even more hysterical responses to this

:patriot:

[onefreespiritedchick]

38. Chuck Todd is NOT a RW guy

He was in charge of Hotline for several years and is only trying to stay neutral to appease the top brass at NBC.

[Bensthename]

39. Defiantly no.. He calls it the way he sees it.. Some times we disagree..

[malik flavors]

40. No, he's just giving the numbers and mometum as he sees it. The truth hurts sometimes.

[barack the house]

41. Attacking Todd is pointless, you can take or leave polls but most of all just get the word out your>

story of the economy and how the McCain/ Bush cabel did us all over.

[Blue-Jay]

42. I'll answer when someone posts proof that Todd is a RWinger.

A quote, a questionable donation, etc...

I'll wait right here, OK?

[sniffa]

47. You'll be waiting a long time

Forever, is my guess.

[brooklynite]

43. For future reference...

Please provide some background leading up to your poll...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

44. You mean Lincoln's wife?

[sniffa]

48. Sorry, here's the link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=132

[Cosmic Charlie]

45. Todd seemed neutral in the Primaries but as soon as the GE started he was a McCain man

[Blue-Jay]

50. How so?

(Show your work)

[sniffa]

51. You're just another RW tool

:eyes:

[Clintonista2]

53. I can't believe we agree

history has been made.

[sniffa]

56. Not really

History repeats itself.

[MichDem10]

52. He's a wanna be Russert.

[returnable]

55. Please. Todd might be an egghead, but he's no RW plant. Plus, his old lady worked for Edwards...

...if he has a bias, it ain't for McCain.

People should stop putting their fingers in the wind every time they hear something they disagree with.

Todd does very little but read polls, and in case people haven't been paying attention, he's been one of the few folks in the MSM who has consistently said "forget about the national polls, look state-by-state and Obama is ahead."

RW tool? Gimme a break.

[sniffa]

57. Very much agreed

:thumbsup:

[Awsi Dooger]

58. Very sharp other than too much devotion to state polls

Chuck Todd should know better. Many times I've heard him get it right, saying State X or State Y won't come along unless the national margin is exploded.

But on other occasions I've heard him try to claim the national margins don't matter. :rofl:

He's a Miami kid so I like him. Certainly far superior to the vast majority of political analysts.

However, this year NBC has not paid enough attention to other races like senate or gov. There's been virtually zero, and that applies to DU and other progressive sites. We'll undoubtedly lose some races that otherwise might have been salvaged with more scrutiny.

[blondeatlast]

59. He's just a wonk. Loves the nitpicky stuff just like we all do and maybe overanalyzes it

but I think his on-screen persona is pretty impartial so as to drive up the drama on both sides.

I'm okay with that.