he is NOT "an honorable man running a dishonorable campaign"

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try this one: "i thought he was an honorable man. i thought i knew him. i guess i was wrong."

[grannylib]

1. YES...he may once have served the country honorably, but it's clear

that today, he is no longer an honorable man.

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2. i'm not even convinced he served honorably.

i'll grant him he served, and there's honor in signing up. however, serving honorably is another matter, and i'm not sure it fits someone who destroyed as much of our equipment as he did, and cooperated with the enemy as much as he did. it might be understandable, it might even be forgivable, but it's not honorable.

tussin takk!

[msongs]

3. failed his mission, lost his plane, allowed himself to be captured - no war hero only POW hero nt

[Orsino]

8. He did turn down the easy way out of captivity, and suffered for it.

I think he did act heroically at least once.

He's broken faith with generations of Americans, though, and betrayed them.

[bunnies]

10. No. He covered his ass. Nothing more.

He was the son of an Admiral captured by "the enemy". If he had taken that deal... it would have disgraced his father, grandfather, etc. He had NO choice but to stay there. Just like everybody else that chose to stay. All the while making anti-USA propaganda tapes.

Thats a hero to you?

[Orsino]

11. Military doctrine required that he turn it down, of course...

...but that could not have been an easy decision for him, when faced with torture. I'm also sure that it was good for the morale of his fellow prisoners.

Yeah, I call that heroic.

[bunnies]

14. his "fellow prisoners" were offered the same deal.

Many of them were there for years before him. His "fellow prisoners" refused to turn on their men. They had NOTHING to gain.

So... if you think Johnny Mac is a "hero" for doing the SAME thing that everyone else in HH did (except that John McCain was actually a TRAITOR)... then I guess you an I are on the opposite site of the fence. Good luck to you.

[Orsino]

15. They had plenty to gain.

They could have gone home, but they stayed for each other and, indirectly, for us. They all acted heroically when they turned it down.

[grannylib]

7. *lol* Notice I said he "MAY" have served honorably - I'm not convinced

either.
:hi:

[C_U_L8R]

4. there once was a crooked man....

[andym]

5. He was a once honorable man, running a dishonorable campaign. nt.

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6. or maybe it's an honorable campaign running a dishonorable man?

:shrug:

[backscatter712]

9. Obama needs to keep pushing that word - dishonorable.

Attack his character. Attack McCain's perceived strength of character from his POWness.

Watch people dump him when that word "dishonorable" sinks into their heads and gets associated with John McCain.

[Waiting For Everyman]

12. Agreed. Good alternative you suggest.

It would give a leadership example to follow, for people admitting to themselves they were lied to and changing their minds.

Like putting the first dollar in the collection plate before passing it? :)

[WinkyDink]

13. Dishonorable is as dishonorable does.