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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:04 AM
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Dow up now. 90+
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 10:05 AM by dkf
What a roller coaster ride.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:05 AM
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1. cnbc is reporting that government help for AIG might be on the way. nt
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:07 AM
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2. Are we borrowing more money from China to toss into this shit-hole?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:09 AM
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7. The story that's being peddled is that poor AIG just needs more time.
Apparently, it's trying to unconglomerate itself by selling off some subsidiaries.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:08 AM
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5. Great.. Tax Payers get to fund more republican messes..
:eyes:

Note to republicans, don't EVER EVER EVER do this to us again... you'll be sorry.. really.. oh, wait.. never mind, we'll bail you out again.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:12 AM
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13. I'm swapping bumper stickers.
"WORK HARDER, corporations on welfare depend on you" is going back on my car before I leave the garage. :mad:
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:22 AM
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16. Theyre not going to bail out AIG, they are just floating the balloon, its a Richard Whitney
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 10:23 AM by Boz
From wikipedia

At 1 p.m. on Friday, October 25,1929 several leading Wall Street bankers met to find a solution to the panic and chaos on the trading floor. The meeting included Thomas W. Lamont, acting head of Morgan Bank; Albert Wiggin, head of the Chase National Bank; and Charles E. Mitchell, president of the National City Bank. They chose Richard Whitney, vice president of the Exchange, to act on their behalf. With the bankers' financial resources behind him, Whitney placed a bid to purchase a large block of shares in U.S. Steel at a price well above the current market. As amazed traders watched, Whitney then placed similar bids on other "blue chip" stocks. This tactic was similar to a tactic that ended the Panic of 1907, and succeeded in halting the slide that day. In this case, however, the respite was only temporary.

......

The slide continued with October 29,1929 being the worst single day,



.....the market lost $14 billion in value that day, bringing the loss for the week to $30 billion, ten times more than the annual budget of the federal government, far more than the U.S. had spent in all of World War I
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:25 AM
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17. I heard that AIG is going to "loan" themselves $20 billion.
How do you loan yourself that kind of money??
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:29 AM
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19. FWIW, CNBC is saying a private sector solution is definitively dead. nt
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:07 AM
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3. Programmed buying. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:08 AM
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4. Either People
1) Are buying on the dips

2) The market is trying to establish a bottom

3) It's a dead cat bounce

4) Who the Hell knows?


By the time Bush* leaves office the market will be where it was at or lower than when he was inaugurated...This means you would have been better off putting your money in a money market account...
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kurt_cagle Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:11 AM
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11. YAB - Yet Another Buyout
Nope - Dept. of the Treasury just buying out the rest of Wall Street in order to have a matched set.

Naked capitalism at its best - banks get all the profit, you get all the debt. Isn't that the way it's SUPPOSED to work?!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:09 AM
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6. Fndamentally nothing has changed, we are in a major recession /nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:09 AM
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8. gotta pump the market back up.... perception is everything
:puffpiece:

Rally, rally, rally
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:10 AM
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9. It's all about trends with the DOW.
And right now, we're in the trough of a giant shithole.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:11 AM
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10. Moving the chairs on the Titanic...
"Violin players, up front!"
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:11 AM
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12. Make that +30 at 11.10
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 10:12 AM by lamprey
It is very volatile this morning.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:15 AM
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14. It's called...
...Turnaround Tuesday.

It's the tendency for the market to make a short term bottom after a big Monday sell-off.

It happens all the time.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:16 AM
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15. The best time to buy is right now. Things are at rock-bottom prices!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:30 AM
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20. I rather doubt that. I think there's further down to go.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:31 AM
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21. I rather doubt that. I think there's further down to go.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:54 AM
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25. When ever the Feds dump $50 billion in it lasts for about 24 hours
it just slows the pain thats coming, the market then drops again the next day.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:28 AM
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18. Down 45 again.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:32 AM
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22. Check at the end of the day - these market swings will go on all day long. nt.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:33 AM
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23. Here's why:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:52 AM
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24. Now Down 21
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