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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:25 PM
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What's the difference between a Christian extremist and an Islamic extremist?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:26 PM
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1. Ha! nt
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:07 PM
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38. Biden needs to say- "Bush with Lipstick!" & "Pit Bull Diplomacy!"
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:27 PM
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2. In a nation with 80% of its population Christian, this is NOT a winning campaign line
Disclosure: I'm an atheist.

It will bomb BADLY among most Americans.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:28 PM
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4. Thanks, Kreskin.
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 01:29 PM by Bornaginhooligan
I'll make a note of that.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:33 PM
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6. You Forget the Adjective "Extremist"
I wouldn't assume all Christians see themselves as "extremists". I don't think Christians would take issue with someone who is differentiating between the two groups unless they are too stupid to get the difference. Then again, if they are THAT stupid, they are probably beyond any hope of having any intelligent discourse.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:34 PM
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8. Most of the public will be upset about any joke that makes Christianity and Muslim "equivalent"...
even if the subject is "extremists".


They won't hear that part.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:54 PM
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19. Those within the religion who are trying to save their good name will..
They know who they are, and who they aren't.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:09 PM
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22. I don't think so
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:35 PM
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10. Note the word EXRTEMIST
And did I say this was a campaign line? Or in any way suggest it should be?

It was simply a riddle, a play on Caribou Barbie's Pitbull/Hockey Mom "riddle".

If a Christian extremist gets offended by this, I REALLY don't give a fuck.

Look up Joel's Army.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:48 PM
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15. 80%.......that might be a little hard to prove.


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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:53 PM
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18. I don't think so
I have Christian missionaries in the family... they are pretty fed up with how the Christian religion has been bastardized... they don't care for extremists at all... not one little bit... that kind of person does God no favors!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:44 PM
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27. I believe there's a clip of McCane disparaging the Talibornagain.
My term, not his.

-Hoot
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:38 PM
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28. He disparaged them until he realized he'd need the fundamental whackadoo vote
Then he kissed their holier than thou asses like Armageddon was tomorrow.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:20 PM
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33. Nay, friend
He felated them mightily.

-Hoot
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:39 PM
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29. I laughed.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:45 PM
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48. It's not a campaign line. It's a joke.
And it's funny as hell!
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:27 PM
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3. "In what respect, Cheap_Trick?"
:hide:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:31 PM
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5. That's actually a great one imo! I've said for years that "our" extremists...
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 01:32 PM by polichick
...are every bit as dangerous as theirs. Mainstream Christians and Muslims need to call them out for what they are ~ and ARE NOT.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:33 PM
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7. I Make This Point a Lot... righties don't like the comparison
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:34 PM
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9. I know a few Christians...
...who would completely concur! <i>Extremist</i> is the key word here. :)
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:36 PM
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11. I'd change the word extremist to Fundamentalist.
Evangelicals are those Christians born again but not necessarily Saudi style fundamentalists who stone adulterers.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:36 PM
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12. And really what is the difference between a creationist and a Scientologist?
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 01:39 PM by nam78_two
If we are supposed to teach creationism in our schools, by the same logic then should we not also teach kids about Xenu and morlocks :shrug:? I mean science should accommodate all religious beliefs shouldn't it? :sarcasm:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:39 PM
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13. In What Sense Charleeee?
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:45 PM
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14. Tina Fey glasses. (nt)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:51 PM
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16. The spelling.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:53 PM
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17. Nothing.
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ITsec Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:56 PM
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20. Just the name of their supposed "God". (n/t)
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:56 PM
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21. The label
All of them worship nothing but death and destruction.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:10 PM
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23. A tan?
And in some cases, a burkah.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:13 PM
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24. an explosive vest. nt.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:19 PM
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25. Yeah, the Muslim extremists prefer belts
But the basic idea is the same... the difference is fashion, fashion, fashion!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:42 PM
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31. True. Some Christian extremists destroy whole buildings. See Tim McVeigh.
Then again, so do some Muslim extremists. See Osama bin Laden. I guess they're the same in that respect, too.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:23 PM
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26. Uhm, competence, Muslim extremists seem to be better at what they do compared to Christians...
There was going to be a Christian Extremist attack a few years ago, with a cyanide bomb of all things, would have made 9/11 look like a bruise in comparison, but some fuck ups got those would be terrorists caught.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:41 PM
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30. Article of the same title:
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:05 PM
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32. The head wear.
Whatever the turbanlike thing is called.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:23 PM
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34. Very true.
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DiamondG Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:59 PM
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35. no, actually a christian extremist would be something like a liberal, moderate muslim. sorry, but t
that is undeniable reality; the average muslim (and i'm talking about regular muslims who live where 99% of them live, i.e. arab countries, iran, indonesia, africa etc., not that nice muslim family that lives down the street from you in suburban anytown, usa) - the average muslim makes jerry falwell look like a flaming liberal. they have no concept of separation of church and state, religious freedom, democracy, women's equality, human rights, gay rights, etc. heck, some of them just "abolished" slavery in the latter half of the 20th century. this is one of the issues that makes "liberals" look out of touch to a lot of people; we all know that christianity is regularly ripped a new one on this very board, but even the slightest negative reference to islam is met with screams of "bigot!." something does not add up there. and if anybody doesn't think that average, "moderate" islam is totally incompatible with american ideals of goverment and society, i'll buy you a one-way ticket to the muslim country of your choice. ok, now everybody hit that alert button if you haven't already.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:42 PM
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44. LOL! Nice analysis.
:eyes:

Never mind the fact that Christian extremists and Muslim extremists both kill people and have successfully bombed buildings in the U.S.

Never mind that Muslim extremists are a disorganized, diverse group of factions spread out over many different countries halfway across the world from us while Christian extremists have had control of our government for the past 8 years.

You may be right that your average "nice muslim family" in the middle east is worse than Sarah Palin but they're not potentially going to be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office are they?
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:12 AM
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50. He's not right.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:10 AM
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49. You're the one that needs to step away from your computer and book a ticket to a Muslim country.
Because you have a seriously screwed up vision of what the ME is or what the average Muslim thinks. And I'm someone who's actually been there and knows many who were born/raised there.

"this is one of the issues that makes "liberals" look out of touch to a lot of people"

I'll take one of those "liberals" to your "lot of people" any day.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:03 PM
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36. The Christian extremists are Republicans. nt
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:05 PM
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37. The Islamic one will sacrifice their life for the cause.
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itzdaun Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:09 PM
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39. Sorry to intrude
I'm newly registered, although I do read here all day every day.
We live in Central Florida. Today my young daughter received an unsolicited DVD called "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West", in the mail today from NP group "The Clarion Fund".
Is this group known to target young, newly registered voters?
I'm posting this here since I can't start a new topic.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:12 PM
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40. The similarities are frightening
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 05:13 PM by Viking12
Exhibit A for your consideration:

I believe in the God of the Bible and I want to see my life conducted according to His Word, and the life of our nation reflect the teaching of His Word. I will not throw my vote behind the Christ-hating egalitarian agenda of the socialist elitists of this nation.

Egalitarianism, as defined by the elitists, is the design to erase all distinctions between males and females from society. If you have not noticed this agenda pushed in our society, you are either hopelessly naïve or just plain stupid. I could give examples from every aspect and quarter of our culture.

From the time they are young boys, the onslaught to effeminize, neuter, and rob males of their manhood begins in this culture and continues relentless upon them till the day they die. The agenda creates confusion in males regarding what exactly their role as men is. The agenda results in rampant male irresponsibility.

God's Word is clear that men and women have distinct roles in which they are to function - both being dear and important to the design of God. Nevertheless, I regularly run into Christian couples who have no idea that, biblically, there are distinctions for men and women. They have no problem with the man staying home and the woman being the provider. They pompously challenge me (as they condescendingly look at me as though I'm some kind of cultural Neanderthal) to show them "one scripture" which states the woman is to stay at home and the man is to go out and provide. This is how bad the confusion is in our nation, even among those who should know God's ways.

http://www.covenantnews.com/trewhella080910.htm

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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:32 PM
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41. good one
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:35 PM
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42. Islamic extremists respect Jesus, But Christian extremists don't respect anything /nt
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:38 PM
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43. Evangelical fundamentalists are actually a theocratic threat to the US
Islamic fundamentalists, on the other hand, have zero chance of ever creating a theocracy in the USA. Therefore, it is obvious who the real threat is.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:44 PM
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45. I agree. It is definitely obvious who the real threat is.
Wait... you mean Saddam right?
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:44 PM
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46. I was gonna say 'a turban'? Because a lot of the fundamentalists here are just
as crazy as the craziest Muslims, fo-sho. My surviving BROTHER is a fundie nut-job, dammit.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 10:46 PM
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47. The real difference between Christian and Muslim extremists: only one has access to nukes.
And it sure as hell ain't a few crazies hiding out in a cave in the desert.
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:08 PM
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51. heeeee heeeeee heee
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:12 PM
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52. one more kick
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