Guys - another mcsame encounter story - and I know the chain-of-custody on this one, too.

[calimary]

This came from a classmate of mine - with whom I went all through high school. - calimary


fyi: Anna Bonas is my cousin and she lives in Sonoma County.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Anna \"Noe\" Bonas"
> Date: September 16, 2008 9:23:34 AM PDT
>
> Subject: Fw: - Fw: My Holiday with John McCain: a first-hand account
>
> (Note from Kate: This shocking account was written by Ana Dubey, a
> friend of my cousin and her husband, who have known Ana for many
> years. Ana has a PhD in psychology and has a private practice in San
> Francisco. My cousin's husband went to business school with Ana's
> husband, who has since started and sold a number of successful
> companies. Ana's husband is currently a Managing Director of a
> private equity firm in the Bay Area. Ana and her husband are not
> political activists and don't have any personal ax to grind. In fact,
> in writing this account of her experience with John McCain, Ana is
> acting outside of her own economic self-interest as she and her
> husband are among the top 3-5% of our population who would benefit
> from the McCain tax/economic policies.
> Please pass this on to anyone
> you know who might vote for John McCain. Also please post it on blogs
> and send it to newspapers and radio stations).
>
> Dear Friends,
> I have written about my encounter with McCain and his family in 1999
> -- please feel free to share my story with whomever you think might be considering voting for him.
> Ana
>
> MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN
>
> It was just before John McCain's last run at the presidential
> nomination in 2000 that my husband and I vacationed in Turtle Island
> in Fiji with John McCain, Cindy, and their children, including
> Bridget (their adopted Bangladeshi child).
>
> It was not our intention, but it was our misfortune to be in close
> quarters with John McCain for almost a week since Turtle Island has a
> small number of bungalows and their focus on communal meals force all
> vacationers who are there at the same time to get to know each other
> intimately.
>
> He arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a
> pile of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out
> of them. As an English Literature major myself, my first thought was
> "if he likes this so much, why hasn't he memorized any of this
> yet?" I soon realized that McCain actually thought we had come on
> vacation to be a volunteer audience for his "readings" which then
> became a regular part of each meal. Out of politeness, none of the
> vacationers initially protested at this intrusion into their blissful
> holiday, but people's buttons definitely got pushed as the readings
> continued day after day.
>
> Unfortunately this was not his only contribution to our mealtime
> entertainment. He waxed on during one meal about how Indo-Chine
> women had the best figures and that our American corn-fed women just
> couldn't meet up to this standard. He also made it a point that all
> of us should stop Cindy from having dessert as her weight was too
> high and made a few comments to Amy, the 25 year old wife of the
> honeymooning couple from Nebraska that she should eat less as she
> needed to lose weight.
>
> McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that
> David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other
> side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting
> with and touching her.
>
> Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego, and his rude
> behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have
> some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from
> Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day and his response was
> shocking –"Oh, that was Cindy's idea – I didn't have
> anything to do with it. She just went and adopted this thing without
> even asking me. You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel
> this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona. No, it
> wasn't my idea at all."
>
> I actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately one day he
> engaged me in a political discussion which soon got us on the topic
> of the active US bombing of Iraq at that time. I was shocked when he
> said "if I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a
> lesson". Given McCain's personal experience with the horrors of
> war I had expected a more balanced point of view. I commented on the
> tragic consequences of the nuclear attacks on Japan during WWII –
> but no, he was not to be dissuaded. He went on to say that if it was
> up to him he would have dropped many more nuclear bombs on Japan. I
> rapidly extricated myself from this conversation as I could tell that
> his experience being tortured as a POW didn't seem to have mellowed
> out his perspective but rather had made him more aggressive, and
> vengeful towards the world.
>
> My final encounter with McCain was on the morning that he was leaving
> Turtle Island. Amy and I were happily eating pancakes when McCain
> arrived and told Amy that she shouldn't be having pancakes because
> she needed to lose weight. Amy burst into tears at this abusive
> comment. I felt fiercely protective of Amy and immediately turned to
> McCain and told him to leave her alone. He became very angry and
> abusive towards me, and said "don't you know who I am" and I
> looked him in the face and said "yes, you are the biggest asshole I
> have ever met" and headed back to my cabin. I am happy to say that
> later that day when I arrived at lunch I was given a standing ovation
> by all the guests for having stood up to McCain's bullying.
>
> Although I have shared my McCain story informally with friends, this
> is the first time I am making this public. I almost did so in 2000,
> when McCain first announced his bid for the Republican nomination but
> it soon became apparent that George Bush was the shoo-in candidate
> and so I did not act then. However, now that there is a very real
> possibility that McCain could be elected as our next president, I
> feel it is my duty as an American citizen to share this story. I
> can't imagine a more scary outcome for America than that this
> abusive, aggressive man should lead our nation. I have observed him
> in intimate surroundings as he really is, not how the media portrays
> him to be. If his attitudes toward women, and his treatment of his
> own family are even a small indicator of his real personality, then I
> shudder to think what will happen to America were he to be elected as
> our President.
>
>
>
>
>
>

[calimary]

1. Kick.

[slinkerwink]

2. wow.

[BonnieJW]

3. I find this hard to believe.

[Schema Thing]

me too.

[sammytko]

44. mccain pushing a grocery cart? - no -nt

[timber84]

6. ditto

was afarid to say it b/c of the OP's statement of relationship to the autthor.

[calimary]

10. Not a problem. All I can say is, I know the woman who sent this - for what's now

about 37 years. She was always a truth-teller as far as I witnessed.

[timber84]

15. I don't doubt your realtionship but wow, that email is, just wow.

[NewJeffCT]

32. Is it her writing the email, or is she forwarding on one of those

chain emails?

I got one of those a while back and responded to the woman that sent me the email that it was a well-known hoax, and she had responded that her friend is very reliable and wouldn't make up a story like that - however, it was a story that her reliable friend had forwarded on...

[rvablue]

28. No Offense OP, but I'm not buying it and things like this could actually hurt Dems

I am not saying that you are trying to hurt Dems, you just passed on an email from someone you trust.
Yet, you don't know the women writing about McCain, you only know the person who received this email and then forwarded it.

The reason that I think it could be "dangerous" is that, in my opinion, I think the documents regarding Bush's Air National Guard duty used in Dan Rather's 60 minutes report were planted by the campaign, so that they could be proven to be forgeries, therefore making every single journalist never touch the story again in fear that their fate would be like Rather's.

Someone was posting on FR that they were forgeries even before the segment had ended....please!

I know this isn't as big of deal, but just based on my gut level, and the fact that John McCain was already a very public figure (I know, he's said some really crude stuff) this whole scenario just seems so over the top.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

7. Me too. William Faulkner? No one reads Faulkner for pleasure.

[WinkyDink]

34. Someone pretentious might, in front of others.

[mitchum]

43. Maybe his "love" for Faulkner is why he chose a Snopes as a running mate

Actually, some of us do read Faulkner for pleasure; he is very very funny

[eridani]

60. I'd believe Solzhenitsyn, but not Faulkner n/t

[knitter4democracy]

71. I do. Not Dickens, though. Or Melville.

Can't stand them. I do like to read Faulkner, though. As I Lay Dying was one of the better novels I've ever read.

[nichomachus]

16. I don't

[WinkyDink]

33. Why? There is a time-frame; there would have been other witnesses (e.g., Amy).

[Silent3]

38. The disadvantage we have as Democrats...

...is that I think more of us are decent enough and smart enough to question a story like this than the freepers would be. We won't blindly and automatically accept the story just because it validates our opposition to McCain, and fewer of us would help spread a story like this if we had doubts.

Throw similar red meat about Obama to the freepers and most of them will eat it up without question, and many with doubts will ignore their doubts for the tactical advantage of manufactured rage.

I'm not saying I want us to sink to their level, I'm just voicing my frustration with how it all works out.

[calmblueocean]

77. I would unrecommend this if I could. Phony as a three dollar bill.

The author tried too hard and went too far.

[beachmom]

95. Yup. Inconclusive, and doesn't pass the smell test.

[silverweb]

4. If this is all true...

...and if Ana feels it is her duty to expose this side of McCain, then she should do an interview with a respected journalist who can then attempt to confirm the details.

An email essay, even if the "chain of custody" is known, isn't verifiable and therefore lacks credibility.

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. There you go! That's all it would take plus

confirmed airline flights and witnesses.

It should be sent to a journalist that could check if McCain and the
observer was there at the same time.

It would be an easy journalistic piece to investigate, with a little money
and support.

[quakerboy]

9. Seconded

Internet rumor, no matter how tempting, is still internet rumor. If they feel so strongly, I am sure that there are plenty of journalists or at least pundits that would be happy to chat with them

[Undercurrent]

17. Totally agree.

[NewJeffCT]

21. I would agree on that

can anybody verify that McCain was on Turtle Island back when the letter-writer says?

[Synnical]

27. Dates are vague in the letter, but McCain was in Fiji

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0DE6DD1F3FF930A35752C0A96F958260

Liberties; No More Wagging
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: January 3, 1999

. . .

The 62-year-old Senator from Arizona knows he is dropping his handkerchief into the Presidential ring in a weird and virulent time.

. . .

Back home in Phoenix after a Fiji vacation, the usually unequivocal Republican equivocated about what should happen to Mr. Clinton.

[dgibby]

23. Or the National Enquirer. nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

31. I agree...... send it to the Enquirer..... n/t

[renate]

51. she should also go into the Witness Protection Program

seriously. :scared:

[Juneboarder]

5. Umm... WOW!

I knew he was a creep but I didn't know he was a CREEP. WTF?!?

[KittyWampus]

11. Turtle Island, Fiji is serving pancake breakfasts?

[calimary]

13. Hey, we had pretty sophisticated pancake breakfasts out in the sticks with the Cub Scouts.

I guess it depends on what tourist areas have what provisions. If it was the kind of vacation spot where the mcsame family would go, I'd guess they'd have all the amenities. Just a guess.

[NewJeffCT]

22. Could be those Chinese/Asian style scallion pancakes?

just a guess.

[Arugula Latte]

84. Okay, now you've made me hungry.

:9

[WinkyDink]

39. Some places in Fiji are:

http://fiji-islands.com/papageno.html

[progressivebydesign]

56. resorts often serve typical fare of their guests. so pancakes would make sense. n/t

[marlakay]

86. thats like macadamia nut pancakes they make in hawaii nt

[trueblue2007]

12. If this could just be PROVED.....it would slaughter McCain.

[crazylikafox]

18. Anybody know if he's a Faulkner fan?

who knows if this is true or not, but his general abusive behavior against women has been documented elsewhere, so in my mind it's possible.

Would be interested to know if he was ever at that location in 1999.

[denem]

14. I wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona

Doesn't ring true. Internet slander.

[Chloroplast]

24. That line in particular was the cruelest.

I hope this isn't true for that line alone; Bridget has been dragged through the mud more than any other McCain due to her father's political aspirations.

[denem]

26. McCain doesn't wheel anything around in a shopping cart

If his shopping cart days didn't end with his war injuries, they certainly vanished after he married Cindy. Laughable IMO.

[WinkyDink]

67. People often speak in hyperbole. For all we know, he might have been meaning the carriage.

[Sanity Claws]

25. I also feel that is over the top.

[msallied]

19. The letter lost me at the "ugly, black" kid comment. I don't believe that for a moment.

Not even from McCain. Sorry.

[Raineyb]

46. Why not? How far a stretch is it for someone who calls people "gooks"

to make the "ugly black thing" comment?

I'm just sayin'

Regards



Regards

[msallied]

47. Probably because it's about a kid he adopted!

Big difference. I really don't think he is A: THAT cruel. Yes, he's a bastard, but come on. And B: I don't think he's that stupid either.

[Raineyb]

52. You think that makes a difference?

I certainly don't. It's not like he's been known to show respect to anyone he's related to. I'm not saying I believe the e-mail it's just that as stretches go, it's not really that big a stretch.

Regards

[msallied]

53. I think the e-mail was plausible enough until that point.

Then it went off the plausibility scale and into idiocy.

[Terran]

82. It is true that Cindy

brought the child back to the US without consulting him. As for the adoption, I understand she suggested it to him, and he agreed to it.

[cali]

48. oh, c'mon. it's one thing to generalize (despicable as it is)

it's another thing to refer to your own kid that way in public when you're a prominent politician with prez ambitions. And it just does NOT have the ring of truth.

[ForeignSpectator]

72. I am not saying the letter is true ( how could I )... it's just that he called his wife a

you-know-what-I-mean in public and didn't have a problem with it then.

And IF, if it's true that the adoption was cindy's idea, the whole quote is not really that big a stretch...

[RoadRage]

20. As much as i'd like to believe this..

It sounds a bit fishy, and there is no way to proove it. So, it really doesn't do well for Dem's to be posting stuff that is totally unsubstantiated, and to any Repug is going to be called foul immidiately.

Imagine the same exact story above on a Freeper site, but change McCain to Obama. Of course you'd be like - that's total bullshit.

I'm not saying your friend is making it up... but it just does no good to post stories without any evidence to them being true (as much as we want them to be)!

[GoneOffShore]

29. Did a little searching around -

There's an Anna Bonas in Sonoma - Can't find an Ana Dubey anywhere - No Facebook(except one in Hawaii who bakes cookies, no Linkedin, nothing.

I'm very skeptical despite wanting it to be so.

[Onlooker]

30. The other guests need to be tracked down ...

... to see if they will vet the parts of the story that they can vet.

I believe this. I've always believed McCain was more likely than Bush to push the button. Bush is inept, McCain is insane.

[crazylikafox]

35. Bush is inept, McCain is insane.

Hey, that's catchy. It rhymes. I like it.

[jakem]

36. seemingly debunked here:

http://somejoe.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-imaginary-holiday-with-mccain.html


:shrug:

[LonelyLRLiberal]

73. Did you read the comments, though?

That blog doesn't disprove the story at all. In particular, the version quoted named someone totally different as the author.

I do agree that the person who was there should speak up to a respected member of the media, with backup regarding dates, etc. Apparently, McCain was in Fiji around the time this allegedly occurred.

[EstimatedProphet]

74. There's a lot of people in the comments standing up for it

[Terran]

83. Hardly a debunking

It's mostly opinion. He even seems to be disputing that McCain was even in Fiji, and that's at least established.

All the comments from people who can't believe he would say such things...keep in mind he's supposed to have the worst temper in the Senate. And Cindy did bring the child to the US without consulting him. He's not known to be a racist in public, but who knows what he's like in private? Obviously we've not seen his temper, but some of his Senate colleagues have and they've made public statements about it. I don't see racism as being so far off, especially given his age, cultural background, the "gooks" comment he's known to have made.

[cali]

37. this reeks of bullshit. How can people here be sooo gullible.

[eShirl]

40. ok, so your classmate sent it to you but didn't write it?

what's that supposed to prove?

[DLnyc]

41. Bullshit, is my take.

There are lots of legitimate, sourced, verifiable reasons to not want McCain anywhere near the WH or even heavy machinery. Why play with vague rumor and innuendo?

[busymom]

42. I would suggest that this is a lie.

My mom knows McCain and has had dinner with him too and his demeanor was completely the opposite. She will actually vote for him purely based on her relationship with him. I'm working on her though!!!

People, we have got to focus on the real issues here and getting them out. I think we're getting lost in some of the bs here and we are losing focus.

We need to come out hard right now on issues like the economy. People get too easily turned off by the personal attacks. How can we attack McCain on his lack of knowledge on the economy...we should be focusing on where people are really hurting right now..their pocketbooks!

[Blue Diadem]

45. I don't believe it. That nasty paragraph about the little girl

sends up all kinds of red flags to me. I may not like McCain, but I doubt highly he'd say something like that about a child he'd raised from an infant.

There's a website attempting to confirm it now.

http://www.tellingthoughts.com/us-politics/my-holiday-with-mccain

[starroute]

49. The same account has appeared at a blog

As far as I can tell, this adds more confusion rather than clarity -- but perhaps someone else can get more information out of it.

http://www.tellingthoughts.com/us-politics/my-holiday-with-mccain

[Blue Diadem]

57. Kathy says it's a friend who knows Ana, while Kate says it's her cousin who knows Ana.

I assume Kate and Kathryn are the same person. We'll see what becomes of it, if the email from Kathy is true at the website. She tells John from the website that she "understands" that Ana has contacted NYT and WP.

[loudsue]

50. Calimary...I believe you, and I believe your post.

It is just blowing me away how many people jump on a thread these days, without knowing anything about the poster, and start tearing a post down. I've seen you on DU for years & years & years. I've NEVER known you to tell a lie or spread a false rumor.

I've spoken to several people who had close encounters with McInsane, and they all say pretty much the same thing. And any guy who would call his wife a "cunt" in public is crazier and sleezier than a friggin' snake on meth.

McCain didn't get a reputation as a "maverick" because he was an independent thinker...it was just a polite way of saying his marbles were rattling around upstairs without a decipherable plan.

[cali]

54. nobody is tearing into the OP. Many of us simply aren't buying an

unverified email that we don't think has the ring of truth.

[Vinca]

55. If this is a true story, voters need to know about it.

If the OP has any influence on her friend, she might get word back to Ana that she needs to talk to a journalist who will verify what can be verified and write an article for the front page of a major paper.

[FlyingSquirrel]

58. I bet he blames his wife for him losing the 2000 primary

since she adopted the "thing" that allowed Rove to launch a whisper campaign against him.

[eridani]

59. Single source

Needs one more eyewitness, or a clear identity for the writer.

[lumberjack_jeff]

66. The author is apparently Anasuya Dubey PsyD.

http://www.tellingthoughts.com/us-politics/my-holiday-with-mccain

[Duer 157099]

61. This is one of those things where it's so absurd it has to be true

I know that sounds counterintuitive, but if you're going to make something up, would you include that incredibly outrageous comment about his adopted daughter?

And from what I can tell, those 2 names check out - both are certainly local to the north bay area - unless someone is smearing *them* and wants to cause them grief.

This rings true to me, a POW does not come back a normal complete person.

I'm just surprised that I haven't yet seen anyone say that he's excused of this behavior because he's a POW - but just wait, if the story is validated, you'll hear that, for sure.

This article has a few paragraphs by the alleged author of the story, and at least connects that name with the background mentioned - if it's not true, she's gonna be pissed I bet...

http://gradpsych.apags.org/mar05/cover-parttime.html

In the meantime, students are negotiating their own half-time training opportunities. For example, when it came time for Wright Institute professional psychology student Anasuya Dubey to apply for internship, she knew she wanted to stay in the San Francisco Bay Area and didn't want to overextend herself by doing a full-time internship while writing her dissertation.

"I primarily chose to do part time because of my dissertation," says Dubey. "And for me, not having to relocate was a major factor. My husband's business is here and that would just be too much of a strain on my marriage."

Luckily, she says, "in California part-time internships seem to be very available." She's currently logging 20 hours a week at the University of San Francisco Counseling Center. Unlike Summers's internship, Dubey's doesn't last two years. She must apply again to another internship to meet her two-year requirement.

[ProfessorPlum]

63. This is amazing! I KNOW Anasuya Dubey

She is the daughter (or was) of the Indian consul living in San Francisco near the Pacific Heights region. She is a lovely friend of a friend who we were fortunate enough to visit with a few times while we were living in the Bay Area during grad school. I think she may have even had Thanksgiving or Easter dinner with us at our house one year. If "Ana Dubey" is Anasuya Dubey, then she is definitely in the Bay Area and a real person. I'll have to see if I can't locate her and get in touch with her. Weird. Small world.

[DangerousRhythm]

64. Wow, I'd be curious to find out if she'd be willing to come out with this.

I mean, how devastating this story would be if it could be backed up by the actual people involved... :scared:

[ProfessorPlum]

80. I just received an email directly from a mutual friend of mine

and Ana's. He said this is Ana, this is Ana's story, that he has heard this story directly from Ana. This is a guy whose personal integrity I hold at a level at least as high as Ana's, and far above most of the people I've met in my life.

Holy Moses. It must be true. I believe both of these people. I have sent Ana an email this morning to ask her for more clarification, I'll let you know if I get it.

[ProfessorPlum]

81. My friend just sent me another email. He said Ana told him

and another friend about McCain as soon as she got back from her trip, that it is absolutely true. I trust both Ana and this friend implicitly.

Jeez, I knew McCain was an ass, but that is world-class asshatery. I've sent Ana a second email for her to verify the details in the story.

[Blue Diadem]

88. Can you ask Ana to verify it with this man?

http://www.tellingthoughts.com/us-politics/my-holiday-with-mccain

He's been trying to verify it without success. According to the sender of the email there, she thought Ana went to the NYT and WP.

[ProfessorPlum]

90. I will send the author of the blog Ana's email address,

but I just received an email from Ana saying it is true, they are working with a reporter from a magazine - I won't identify them yet, I don't have her permission - who has asked her and her husband not to respond to any other sources of print media until the story comes out (if they print it), so they can't respond to the blogs.

What a horrible thing, to have an expensive vacation ruined by a boorish senator. I'll try to keep this thread updated as to where they are on the story, but by my lights, Ana is a completely reliable and trustworthy source. I don't know if enough people on this site know me well enough to be able to vouch for me. But what a truly weird experience.

[ProfessorPlum]

91. Actually, I didn't send the email address

but I did pass on what I know. She'll be getting hounded enough about this in the very near future.

[DangerousRhythm]

94. This is insane.

I really, really don't want to believe this is true, not because I don't think he's capable, but for the women in his life... for Bridget especially. I could cry just thinking about the implications. :(

[ProfessorPlum]

97. I know how you feel. I'm also upset about how close this guy is

to being able to push the red buttons, considering how he feels about using nukes, apparently. The situation in this country stands on a knife edge.

I can't believe he would talk to his wife like that, in front of people. Yikes.

[ecstatic]

62. Forwarded. This sounds exactly like the McShame we've seen glimpses of

And some of you are wayyy too kind. After the stories of how McShame has treated his first wife, Cindy, talked about Chelsea, talked about "the gooks," and tried to physically assault handicapped individuals... why would this story be so hard to believe? You guys slay me at times. Everything in this tale fits the McShame we're learning about.

[Bunny]

65. For everyone doubting that he could have made that comment about Bridget, are you forgetting

that he called his wife Cindy a c**t, and this has been verified. He calls the Vietnamese gooks, this too has been verified. He insulted a teenage Chelsea Clinton, also verified.

Why on earth would you think he would never say such a thing about Bridget? It totally fits his MO. You can doubt the entire story in general, or specific parts of it (he pushes a shopping cart?), but it's entirely in his character to make incredibly rude comments about people, even those closest to him.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

68. my classmates' cousin's roommate told me

Barack Hussein Obama was really a Muslim and his wife hates America.

I guess that must be true too, eh?

This doesn't pass my BS detector for a second. This is obvious Internet chicanery. Don't forward this to anyone until it's vetted.

[CitizenPatriot]

69. patriarachal abuser

It amazes me how quickly people will assume no one could be this much of an ass. It is that very inability to imagine such behavior which gets us into trouble.

Abusive men do indeed talk this way about their children and wives. In public. It's important for them to humiliate the family (lessors) in public to assert their dominance.

This bit about the diet struck me as very real. Dieting, food monitoring, checking out other women in front of his wife, all of those things are so typical of an abuser that they actually paint the portrait of an abuser. These are the things that create the foundation for physical abuse; lowering of the self-esteem of the partner, public belittling, etc. Furthermore, the language McCain choses to use is often riddled with derogatory choices.

And certainly no one can suggest he wouldn't speak this way about a child; look how he spoke about Chelsea Clinton.

It may not be something we can win this election on, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

Common sense tells me this is more likely to be true than not true. It has the odd facts you see in truth; things which are horrible but usually left out of the public version of spousal abuse. His previous behavior confirms that he is likely to behave this way. My gut has told me from the beginning that he is an abusive man. He has all of the tells, along with stories of his temper and his own feelings of powerlessness. Very typical scenario for an abuser.

[ForeignSpectator]

70. That story makes a lot of sense, given all the other reports you hear about mccain.

It also explains the adopted child because THAT always made me think "maybe there is a good bone in his body". But if these quotes are true they fit right into the picture of mccain being a class-A primitive idiot asshole who would NEVER learn a lesson.

I feel incredibly sorry for the girl... "that thing", what a motherfucker!

And cindy seems to have absolutely no self-respect whatsoever to have stayed married to such an abusive asshole. The perks of him being a senator really must be worth it...

[Duer 157099]

75. So what's the word on this today? Anyone?

I wonder if Randi will be reading it on the air today!

[faithfulcitizen]

76. BS story, but he is abusive in my view of him through past statements and behaviors.

[walldude]

78. You actually believe a man running for president said this

in front of a group of people:

"She just went and adopted this thing without
> even asking me. You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel
> this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona. No, it
> wasn't my idea at all."

You actually believe this? Fool.

[Terran]

85. In a remote location? In front of people he might assume

are like-minded (being wealthy, apparently?)? It's not such a stretch. Been around any politicans when they're relaxing? I have. They are an incredibly arrogant bunch, especially the republicans.

[Lorentz]

92. Bullshit. Whether he's running for president or not, he's a public figure.

NO public figure who values their career would even dare utter such drivel within earshot of anyone. That's just stupid. This sounds like it was written by a 3rd grader. Get real, people.

[Overseas]

79. K&R from me because I have seen people like JSM III at ease.

They feel superior enough to tell women they don't know to refrain from eating fattening food because they should lose weight. In John Sidney McCain III's world, women should be slim. They exist to please men and should work harder to do that. And he's gotta let them know when they're messing up.

And I saw how unhappy Bridget looked at the RNC Convention. Maybe just because she wasn't slim enough to meet JSM III's standards, maybe that's why she looked so uncomfortable. Maybe he isn't quite as rude as he sounded in the story. Maybe he's just told Bridget to lose weight six times a day.

His attitude toward the Thai wife of one of the resort guests doesn't surprise me either. That's why his staff have had to watch out when he's around the ladies. He likes the slimmer blondes-- Vikki Iseman, Carly Fiorina, Pfotenauer... Probably has an excuse to cheat when Cindy gains 5 pounds.

I hope more people who have seen John Sidney McCain III at ease will come forward.

[Canuckistanian]

87. There's a blog tracking down this story today

http://www.tellingthoughts.com/us-politics/my-holiday-with-mccain

Endeavours are being made to contact the actual author direct even though authentication was verified with the original poster Gabriel Hurtado, named on the Obama site shown below. Emails have gone to the Washington corporation address of the forwarder for further information. At this stage we have no reason to doubt the letter based on John McCain’s record, but realise it could be a nasty hoax designed to hurt those who do not support McCain. Hopefully the next 24 hours will provide the answer. I will publish any reply.

Update 1 * 17/9 - NB. Kathy the forwarder of the letter has sent me an email reply. It is published below. I have requested her to ask her friend, Ana, apparently the actual author of the email, to contact me on this matter asap.

Update 2 * 17/9 - NB. : Phoned Washington DC. Kathy is awaiting a reply from Ana to her email , will email me as soon as she hears something.

Update 3* 17/9 - NB. Am now advised that the author is Anasuya Dubey PsyD. Apparently Ana is a highly regarded person and a Clinical Psychologist who was operating and studying in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2005. We are trying to contact her. If anyone can supply me with her email address it would be most appreciated. Please send details to [e-mail]

If accurate it says much about the true character of the real John McCain and is further evidence of the fact that he is totally unfit to occupy the office of President of the United States. Every American needs to read this letter to appreciate how unfit McCain is for any public office, much less the Presidency! McCain is living a lie. He is a clear and present danger to the United States.

[brashs]

98. Update; looks like it is not going to be published

"XXX has decided not to publish. Unfortunately none of the other vacationers were willing to attach their names to the story for obvious reasons! Reporters have been calling in and asking for interviews but at this time it looks like the story will not be published." http://www.tellingthoughts.com/us-politics/my-holiday-with-mccain

[Kurovski]

89. K&R.

McCain himself is something of a big fat fuckhead.

No pancakes for him. No way, no how.

[Barack_America]

93. McCain push a shopping cart?

Sorry, but I don't think so.

I'd like to be proven wrong, but at this time I don't believe this account is authentic.

[tanyev]

96. Wow.

Very interesting.