I don't care how many boots on the ground we have. RW talk radio rules the day.

[Fla Dem]

I just walked out of my job in disgust and disillusionment. A small RE office where I work PT doing office work. There were 3 realtors there who have been hit hard by the economic down turn. I keep telling them it's because of the Republican policy of trickle down and deregulation we're in this situation. I told them how Phil Gramm, former McCain adviser and BFF pushed through a damaging banking deregulation bill in 1992 when he was chairman of the banking committee, which Warren Buffett called a "weapon of mass destruction". I told them that bill led directly to the mortgage and housing collapse which has led to the banking collapse...Freddie/Fannie, Lehman Bros., etc. I tell them how Obama's tax plan would cut taxes on the middle class. But to no avail. All three of them were listening to Neal Boortz and then Limpballs. Everything I said was distorted thru the lies of the RW mouth pieces, and if Neal and Rush said it, it must be true.

From 9:00 in the morning until 6:00 at night, the RW has an unopposed megaphone to lie, distort and brainwash the citizenry. RW talk radio can indeed put lipstick on a pig and make it look good.

[LittleClarkie]

1. The people you were talking to are hardcore Right Wing

What makes you think you were going to swing their vote anyway? Have they EVER voted Dem?

Those are not our target. Leaners and undecideds are the target. Think of it as a poll you're taking. These people would be put down as McCain supporters and we wouldn't contact them again. Why waste your breath. Save it for someone who is is more receptive.

[Fla Dem]

7. Actually yes, 2 of them voted for JFK. I know that was a while ago.

I just don't know how they can be so blind. Considering what we have gone through the last eight years. How can they even believe these lies.

[LittleClarkie]

14. Gotcha. Yeah, that's kinda sad

conversely I know a couple of people who used to be Goldwater Republicans that are Dems now. Whatcha gonna do.

My brother's kinda like that too.

[WinkyDink]

36. My mother's best friend in the world worked on JFK's campaign in PA. She is a rabid Republican now,

even calling my mother a "Communist".

It's all about the Benjamins.

[tblue]

2. Thank you for trying.

Save your breath. Can you get another job?

[Fla Dem]

3. LOL...No I actually like my job and most of the people. n/t

[DrDan]

4. yes they can - and when this propaganda

is being fueled by the felons in the white house - they gain credibility. The listeners hear the same sound-bytes from each RW-leech - supported by gov't spokesme. Why would these listeners not believe it.

[RoadRage]

10. Nice Hat!

Noticed your husker helmet logo.. are you from NE? I'm in Omaha.. anyway - nice to see a Husker Fan. Go Bo, and Go Big Red! ;)

[DrDan]

16. born in St. Paul - just north of Grand Island

but left in 6th grade.

Have remained a loyal husker for decades since leaving Nebraska. however, I did go to grad school at SoCal - and it could be a whole lot easier cheeering them on this year.

I try to get to one game a year - not always that easy as I live just outside Daytona Beach.

Bo seems to be turning them around - though not as fast as I would like. Sure would like to see the blackshirts get back to their old level of play.

Do you get to many games? I see Colorado seats are still available - however, in the visitor section.

[RoadRage]

28. We get to at least one game a year..

My husband graduated from UNL in '95.. he had 1 class with Tommy Frazier. We usually wait until a game when we know the weather will be nice, and then just drive down to Lincoln (from Omaha) and buy tickets from someone selling them outside the stadium. We want to get to the KU game this year, because my sister-in-law graduated from KU and they're going to try and go with us.

I think Bo will do well.. he's getting the "spirits" up quickly. It'll take a few years of recruiting to get the talent back up.. but even if he can get 7 or 8 wins this year - I think that will put smiles on a few faces. No one expects a miracle. It's just nice to see him actually chewing ass on the sidelines when the guys screw up.. and then the players actually looking like they care, and will try to do better next time. Callahan just didn't seem to give a shit - as long as he got a paycheck, he was content. And we have Pedersen out and T.O. back too - so things should be on an upswing.. with possible National Championship potential again hopefully by the 2011 or 2012 seasons. ;)

[DrDan]

39. I dread that game - as well as MU

I have in-laws that live in Lawrence and are KU season ticket holders. The rest of my in-laws all live in Mo and are died-in-th-wool MU fans.

I agree about calahan - soooooo glad to see him out of Lincoln - with pedersen.

Nice to see Bo back on the sideline. Always liked him. And I hope he brings back some life to the defense. They seem to have lost all pride in what they used to do so well.

[BOSSHOG]

5. Great Post, and no need for a fairness doctrine huh???

As they say on right wing radio world, if ya wanna lie and smear and be an obnoxious pain in the ass buy your own radio station.

[Fla Dem]

21. You know that may be the only way to combat their propaganda. Fight fire w/ fire,

I wish some of the deep pocket liberals would start buying up little AM stations and then syndicate Randi, Ed, Stephanie, etc.

[leftist.]

6. Agree with the second point, not the first.

Hate radio is *without a doubt* running this campaign - look no further than the talking points conceived on hate radio bleeding into the convention speeches. I still believe however that Obama's ground campaign will be the tipping point for the election, and McCain is only just now getting a ground campaign underway in most states (I read that here earlier today).

[Fla Dem]

8. I hope you're right. n/t

[leftist.]

13. I'm only certain I'm right about the point you and I agree on.

And that's that hate radio IS the McCain campaign right now. That's where you get Palin and her creationist views, it's where you get "Community Organizer", it's where you get "Democrat Party", "Barack Apollo Obama" and the columns, et al.

[BeyondGeography]

9. Their brains have been permanently poisoned

and yes, this is a problem.

[Cosmocat]

11. It is EVERYWHERE ...

I run a charity soccer tournament. The day after the tournament, I was in the basement of a municipal barn putting things away and doing an inventory - I could hear from above that pig Limbaugh. All the workers coming and going, and that puke was brainwashing them.

When I was running for office, I can't even begin to count the houses of Rs I knocked during the day who were listening to that scumbag.

Again, this is all VERY much based on "white angst" so to speak. Only the steady change of demographics that will bring an greater balance of non-whites to whites will really begin to mute these scumbags. Only reasons BO really is in the game is that they DID end up in total power for 6 years and created such an undeniable disaster that REALITY has peeled away just enough to give BO a shot, in addition to bringing in new voters.

[LiberalAndProud]

12. It doesn't end on AM around here.

I would consider 9:00 to 6:00 a reprieve. It is noxious and toxic.

[SoxFan]

15. Chill out

I live in a swing city in a swing state. Want to see how the RW talk station is doing?

1. WZID-FM (Adult Contemporary)
2. WGIR-FM (Album Oriented Rock)
3. WOKQ-FM (Country)
4. WMLL-FM (Classic Rock)
5. WFEA-AM (Adult Standards)
6. WJMN-FM (Rhythmic Contemporary Hits)
7. WGIR-AM (News Talk)
8. WXKS-FM (Contemporary Pop Hits)
9. WCRB-FM (Classical)
10. WXRV-FM (Adult Album Alternative)

And the station isn't a pure RW talk station. It has a local morning drive news show, and it carries the games of the popular local pro hockey team, the Manchester Monarchs.

[democracy1st]

20. drive across Tx you're hard pressed to hear any progressive talk

[Codeine]

17. The vast majority of people

never listen to that tripe, and those that do were going to vote for McSame anyway. Seriously, do you honestly believe potential Obama voters are tuned into the Savage Wiener right now?

[Fla Dem]

22. Hmmm..I don't think so.

I know plenty of people who listen to them, in their cars going to work, doing errands or at work. I can walk into a dry cleaners, a sub shop or other small store and hear it going in the background. These are your everyday run of the mill people who have the radio on for background noise and/or entertainment. They are not the type of people that visit progressive/liberal web sites or have the time to watch Olberman or Rachael, or John Stewart. These are ordinary people who for the most part are not totally engaged in politics. They listen because it's the only available talk radio. In my area there are 3 AM talk radio stations and nothing else on AM. So when they heard these lies and distortions, they hear nothing to offset them. Everybody who listens is not rabid RW trash. But many will be convinced to vote that way.

[NEDem]

25. I worked in the biz for 15 years

Not that many people listen to AM radio. And the number is constantly dropping. All they are doing to preaching to the choir.

[Fla Dem]

30. If you say so. I'd like to believe that is true. n/t

[Beregond2]

18. Anyone who listens to that trash

is beyond the reach of reason.

[democracy1st]

19. you're right they have the radio covered and thats more powerful than tv

to hell with Clintons 1996 Telecommunications Act

[GoddessOfGuinness]

23. Has anyone ever investigated the possibility that RW radio uses subliminal messages

to brainwash their audience?

I find it hard to believe that people just keep going back for more, regardless of the drug and sex scandals, regardless of the racism and sheer idiocy.

[Fla Dem]

24. They don't need subliminals...just keep repeating lies over and over.

Just look at a few of characterizations that took hold and were repeated as fact until OMG the MSM actually started to refute some of them because they were so outlandish.

Obama is a Muslim.
Obama wanted sex education for kindergartners.
Obama wants to raise your taxes.
Obama wants to cut and run from Iraq.
Obama called Sarah Palin a pig.
Obama was educated in a Madrasah.

Pick anyone of them and if you were on the fence it might be the deciding factor.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

26. Why not sue them for slander?

[Bensthename]

27. BUT KEEP THIS IN MIND

They only are talking to people that would vote for McCain any way.

And second, if their megaphone is so big a powerful why could they not sway their listeners into voting against McCain? These hate radio a-holes spent hundreds of hours trying to get any one but McCain as the republican nominee and they couldnt even do that.

[GalleryGod]

29. Swing voters WILL swing,my friend!

Democracy will DANCE in 'Murica on 1/20/09

[Wednesdays]

32. They'll vote for McCain anyway, BUT

They'll spread the lies to family members, friends, co-workers, and anyone else they come in contact with.

With those lies, those people will play off each other, getting themselves riled up to the point where they'll go out and canvas neighborhoods, give money to campaigns, and so on. No, there is a real political benefit to the GOP, otherwise they would feel it's a waste of time and they'd move on to some other strategy.

[Name removed]

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[Fla Dem]

33. Very rude and inappropriate remark. If I bother you by all means put me on ignore. n/t

[d.amber]

34. Sad really sad..In WA I listen to Dave Ross good guy

Today he tried to talk reason and logic to a guy who claimed he was undecided until Palin and how supports McCain. He went on to say it was because of Big Government and government control in private companies that caused the collapse of Fannie and Freddie.

Dave tried to explain to him that Freddie and Fannie were government agencies that were turned over to Private uncontrolled and then failed under deregulations. The guys just didn't understand it all. He kept saying it was because the government goofed it up that Freddie and Fannie failed.

Dave Ross then agreed. It was the government failed. They failed when they deregulated and privatized these companies and let greed and easy money rule that day.

This guy just couldn't get a clue though. Those are the type of voters that scare me to death.

[Doremus]

35. I completely agree. We lost the country when they deregulated the media.

Why hasn't a wealthy liberal bought a cable channel? KO and RM have proven there's a market for it.

[musette_sf]

37. flipping stations on the way home last night:

KKGO (local Air America) has Rachel Maddow so you know that's good, discussing financial collapse.

KGO had Gene Burns talking to caller about financial collapse. Burns is sometimes good sometimes bad but at least he is not a wingnut, and at least they were talking about CURRENT fvcking events.

860, some new station owned by wingers (Pappas family, Sacramento) had Laura Ingraham talking about how noble Palin is because of her love for fetuses. well, she might have said "life" but we know Sarah has no regard whatsoever for sentient life. no discussion of hurricanes or financial collapse.

KSFO had Brian Sussman aka Assman talking about Obama wanting kindergarteners to have graphic sex ed in school, and then a caller went straight to the traumatic effects of molestation on children, which was one of the most jaw dropping non sequiturs i've heard in a long time. no discussion of hurricanes or financial collapse.

so the wingnut stations just keep throwing out the red meat with no concern for actual CURRENT EVENTS.

[codjh9]

38. Yeah, as I was just telling a relative, so much for the 'liberal media' bullshit.

[On the Road]

40. The Boots on the Ground Aren't Going Anywhere Near Those People

The local offices have records on each individual address. Wherever known, they send people either to registered Democrats or undecideds. Canvassing a neighborhood results in about 10-12% increased turnout from the group you canvassed, and none from the others. That's why the ground effort can be critical in a close election.

[Fla Dem]

43. I have great respect for the boots on the ground. I have worn out boots from Gore & Kerry campaigns.

It is the undecided and moderate dems we need to target. But it's not just the die hard RW who listen to talk radio. The undecideds and moderate dems do as well. I can't tell you how many times when I knocked on the door of someone on my list the push back I got was , "but I heard on the radio". When I would tell them facts they would say ok, I'll think about it. I'd say jokingly, "now stop listening to your radio." But I knew damn well they would turn that radio back on and everything I told them would be forgotten.

:banghead: That's what it felt like.

[OnionPatch]

41. The left has ignored this for way too long.

Honestly, I don't understand how the Democrats have been able to win anything with this kind of coast-to-coast blanketing of RW propaganda on every band of the AM radio and half of the bands on FM. It goes to show that our values are very strong, but it's not enough to be right. We have to make sure people hear our side of the story, and right now, too many are hearing only the other side.

I'm really fed up with hearing things like "liberals don't listen to talk radio" Yes, they do, and I am proof. I'm sick of hearing that no one listens to these shows. Yes, they do. I hear my neighbor playing them all day long while working in his construction lot. I hear these shows when I walk into the feed store, the grocery store, and just about any other small business around here. I hear these shows leaking out of the offices of my co-workers. My conservative brother-in-law, who drives a truck, spouts the talking points from these shows regularly.

Why there hasn't been a whole lot more backing by the wealthy left to counter these shows with shows of our own is beyond me. The right didn't get these shows on because they started with great ratings. They got them on the air one way or the other and kept playing them until they developed a listening audience. We should be doing the same. We ignore this at our own peril.

[dkf]

42. That is why its even more important for Obama to win the messaging on TV.

To think that the populace can withstand lies on all sides is naive.