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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:30 PM
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Chris Matthews can kiss my ass! "Where's Obama's Passion?"
Dear Chris,

Where's the passion on Obama's part? You asked Bill Richardson today. Well Chris, if you don't see Barack's intensity and his tone of urgency, then you just aren't paying attention. Let's be clear here....I don't want my leader foaming at the mouth, the way that I have seen you do. I don't want my President jumping up and down acting like a mad man. Perhaps you get a tingle up your leg, but I want a President who keeps his head about him when there is a crisis. You see Chris Matthews, Obama is not running to be your Angriest Black man, he's running to become Leader of the Free World, Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces, and President of these United States. So if I could, I would advise Barack Obama to keep his cool, and keep coming up with fresh 21st century solutions to get us out of the mess that Republicans have put us in.

On the one hand you ask innocently why isn't Obama further ahead (it's the melanin content as you well know, since you've been pushing his "problem" with Hard working Whites for I don't know how long), yet on the other hand you criticize him for the very thing that might bring fear to those same White folks. So you aren't slick Mr. Matthews, and in fact, you are getting too obvious for your own good. Let the level headed thinking smart candidate that we desperately need be his authentic self, and let you, emotional Chris Matthews, shut up with this agenda of yours. While I'll be voting for No Drama Obama, I'm gonna take a wild guess that you'll be voting for Mr. McEmotion Hoover.

Respectfully,

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:33 PM
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1. This is my point exactly
He gives a wonky policy speech and immediately the media whines about him lacking "passion".

If he gives an inspiring, charismatic speech, then, well, "he's all fluff and no substance".
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:36 PM
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Naturally.
Lets remember never to take tweetie seriously; he's highly unreliable - bipolar.
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:55 PM
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6. The TM got to have something to talk about.
All these media talking heads kill me like they are experts on winning elections. If it's anyone thats out of touch it's parrots in the mainstream media. Chris Matthews, Bill O'Reilly, etc. couldn't fill a stadium if the their lives depended on it.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:58 AM
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29. This is widespread and has been goingon since April ...
they get him coming and going ...

One of the other bizarre things Mathews is in to, is how "great of a couple McCain and Palin" are, comparimg them to old movie couples, then going on with every guest he can get his hands on about how Obama and Biden need to campaign together - not that that haven't, and not, of course, if they WERE that he wouldn't be knocking BO for not "dividing and concouring."

BTW - this whole, he has not passion thing ...

BO gets a couple hunded thousand GERMANS to come to see him speak.
He packed 60,000 in for his acceptance speech.

He is in our nation's history, the only political candidate to have the appeal and draw that he has, going to have TWO MILLION donors ...

I don't get Mathew's point - BO ain't ranting and raving, but he reaches into people's hearts in a way that no poltician since Kennedy has.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:36 PM
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2. Another Tweety quote from tonight was-
Well, a very rough paraphrase-

Palin isn't ready to be president. Neither is Obama.

Oh, as if Bush IS?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:38 PM
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3. Good letter..it had to be said.
"Mr emoticon mchoover" Yeah, he was all passionate on morning joe's with his monotone, surly accusations that mika was an Obama supporter 'cause he didn't like having to 'splain anything.

I've been writing about this a lot but it's actually the first time I've let myself listen to mccain(yech)and it will probably be the last. It was the most BORING thing imaginable..along with that clip from Jon Stewart's on Jon comparing palin's use of "blinking"(In what respect, charlie?--worse than I imagined it to be) to bush's usage of "blinking".
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:39 PM
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4. Total idiot.
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 11:40 PM by asdjrocky
Passion:

passion (n.) A powerful emotion, such as love, joy, hatred, or anger.
passion (n.) Ardent love.
passion (n.) Boundless enthusiasm: His skills as a player don't quite match his passion for the game.

Thoughtful:

thoughtful (adj.) Engrossed in thought; contemplative.
thoughtful (adj.) Exhibiting or characterized by careful thought: a thoughtful essay.
thoughtful (adj.) Having or showing heed for the well-being or happiness of others and a propensity for anticipating their needs or wishes.

He's not passionate outwardly. It's the passionate leaders I worry about. Those that appear passionate at least. Give me thoughtful any day over passionate. That's what Chuck Shumer should have said when Tweety made that stupid statement.

Passion makes you land on an aircraft carrier as a stunt and declare things that aren't true, with banners that spew bullshit. I'll take someone that is thoughtful as the representative for the American people to the rest of the world, not passionate.

Tweety = tool
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:43 PM
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5. Maybe Chris wants him to be more of an 'Angry Black Man'
DAMN sure that's the noise they would start if Barack starts hollering like Chris wants.

Joe Biden's doing JUST FINE with the passion. Barack's being the BRAINS.

I Want The Smartest Mother Fuckers In The Room. That's Obama/Biden.

What Chris wants, I dunno
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ashrob123 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:09 AM
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8. I think that he was trying to start a conversation
about the angry black man issue without explicitly saying it. No one took his bait. I expect he'll just blurt it out himself later on this week.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:07 AM
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7. Yes, why is he so passive?
Why is he so weak? Why doesn't he fight back? Why doesn't he get angry? Why doesn't he show some leadership? Why doesn't he blah..blah...blah?

It is these type of comments that drive me up the fucking wall. No matter how much McCain fucks up, they always find a way to make Obama look weaker with their silly ass comments. Do they think nobody notices? McCain could fall down into a pile of shit and they would talk about how Obama held his nose and walked away, as if he was better than everyone else....:mad:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:16 AM
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9. I wrote this letter that I sent to certain types....like Anderson Cooper and Larry King today.
My letter today to many News Agencies and Reporters-----

Dear XXXXXXXXXXXX,

How can John McCain get away with his vague generalized statements and answers on just about every questions asked of him including the economy. He clearly makes broad generalization that don't amount to anything but meaningless platitudes attached to slogan-like buzz words. Why is he allowed to get away with that? How can he respond by saying "I have done this before", "I know how to get it done", "this needs to be solved" to economic questions, and not be pressed further?

meanwhile.....

The media is eagerly quick to mention that OBama is either too wonky and too Professorial or not "passionate" enough, when Obama gives detailed statements and answers questions in very specific terms, and yes, with more than enough emotions, etc...?

What is actually going on here?

And why is the press still allowing this to happen?

The real question is why are the standards set up for these two men so completely different, although they are running for the same office? Why is one continuously given a pass while the other his held to an impossible standard of perfection?

In other words, why isn't McCain getting more heat for not saying anything even when he's talking?

Respectfully,


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:22 AM
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11. I just heard David Gregory ask Lawrence Summers....
Why isn't Obama able to connect with the people??

As if John McCain is connecting to all these people and Barack Obama has some unseen flaw that people are just not connecting with? These types of questions drive me crazy.

Why isn't Obama 20 points ahead right now? Do they really want to know?
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:29 AM
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16. only GOP candidates connect...
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:41 AM
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26. What a bunch of disingenuous garbage-- here's a video for Gregory
one of hundreds over the months, that he apparently would like everyone to forget.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7092619

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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:20 AM
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10. No kidding
I so hear you... it is infuriating.
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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:24 AM
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12. I would personally like to see Obama get "very tough" more often though
When he gets the Very Tough voice, it borders on passion, and it makes him sound very presidential.

I am not saying Go Angry, but I do think a little more emotion might sometimes be a good thing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:27 AM
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14. I really don't understand this that you speak of.
Obama is never monotone, has a wonderful modulating tone to his voice, and always, always appears to be the person that could systematically lead us out of the forest that we are trapped in.

I really do wonder why so much is expected of Barack Obama, and so little is expected of anyone else.

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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:32 AM
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18. Eh, it could be subject matter too
This all came on the heels of the post-Wall Street crash speech, I guess there isn't really a way to make that interesting or even passionate for a non-economic type.

I just know I yawned and nodded along with Matthews today. If Professor Wilkes couldn't make it interesting, maybe it's unfair to expect Obama to (I keep going back in my head to Bill Clinton though, somehow he always managed to inflect a "tone" into whatever *otherwise boring* topic he was discussing that made me sit up and listen)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:36 AM
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20. Well, if you want entertainment....cool....
I'm looking for answers, and I believe him to be more passionate than most politicians I have seen.....even if he doesn't wave his arms up in the air.

I don't recall JFK or anyone else being anymore passionate than Obama is being....so I call Bunch of bullshit on those who somehow have a "special" bar for Obama to pass which keeps getting higher and higher and higher.

Which is why I stated clearly in the headline of my op, Matthews can KISS MY ASS.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:25 AM
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13. Obama's passion
I really sat up when tweety was saying that crap. I want a smart wonky bureaucrat, that knows how to think a problem through.How much better off would we be if Al Gore had been given the office that he won?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:27 AM
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15. Don't forget everytime Obama reaches their ridiculously high bar
they move the bar higher. They do not expect the same from McCain and Palin.

Oh yea, Chris you mean the passion that you showed to your dicator as he strutted across the aircraft carrier with a sock in his pants?

Screw Chris Mathews he is just another hack.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:31 AM
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17. That's what is so fucked up.....
Guess cause he's 1/2 Black, he got to be perfect to "Make up" for that deficiency.....cause we both know that's all it is; 20 times as good as the rest, yet given 1/2 the credit. I'm totally sick of this unfair shit.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:49 AM
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21. That's what I am saying FrenchieCat
I will say this too...the MSM is one of the main culprits in pushing this bullshit divisive racist shit.

The Media has actually treated Palin a no body with more respect then they have treated Hillary, Obama and Biden.

Could you imagine if Hillary or Obama hid from the press? Only to make scripted appearances?
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:36 AM
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19. That made me turn off the TV.
I got home from work late, missed Keith, saw most of Rachel, and decided to leave the TV on since people have been saying that Tweety has been occasionally reasonable lately. "Where's the passion?" "Fuck you, Tweety." Click. I have better things to do with my life.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:50 AM
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22. K & R there's something seriously wrong with Chris I think the guy is on medication
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:18 AM
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23. I didn't see Hardball today
But Obama's best moment by far in recent months was his convention speech, very forceful. He falls way off when he uses the sarcastic tone, like yesterday when he mocked McCain's description of the economy.

Whenever Obama feels tempted to fall into that, "Can you believe this..." mode, he needs to back off and rethink. It's not effective. I noticed that in the primaries. It may work well in a heavily partisan room but it doesn't come across well on TV, too arrogant.

I guarantee if Obama resurrected his convention tone and emphasis, Matthews would be praising him nightly.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:20 AM
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24. Preach, Frenchie!
:kick:
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:34 AM
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25. Chris is bipolar.
no way of predicting if he will be up or down, blow hot or cold...we can't count on him.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:54 AM
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27. Empty seats greet McCain at Fla Rally; McCain embraces the staged rally.
Empty Seats Greet McCain at Fla. Rally

By Robert Barnes
Wednesday, September 15th, 2008
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Republican presidential nominee John McCain held his first rally without running mate Sarah Palin today, and let's just say there were seats available.

The McCain "Road to Victory" rally was originally scheduled to be a pancake breakfast, but the campaign said there was such an outpouring of enthusiasm the event was shifted to the 15,000-seat Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena.

That might not have been the best idea: There were almost no supporters in any of the cavernous arena's 24 upper-level seating sections, and only eight of the 21 sections downstairs held fans. Only four of those were filled, though some supporters crowded around the stage on the arena floor.

more:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/15/empty_seats_greet_mccain_at_fl.html

Jacksonville--- isn't that largely REPUBLICAN turf?



McCain embraces the staged rally
Wednesday, September 10th, 2008

PHILADELPHIA, PA — For a candidate who once railed against “stale soundbites, staged rallies and over-managed messages,” John McCain seems to have turned over a new leaf.

Today marks the four-week anniversary since McCain held his last press conference (8/13 in Birmingham, MI) and three weeks since his last public town hall meeting (8/20 in Las Cruces, NM).

McCain’s new campaign strategy: staged rallies with thousands of supporters.
Since announcing Sarah Palin as his VP choice on August 29, McCain’s has appeared at 11 rallies with his new running mate where both members of the ticket delivered a 10-15 minute stump speech.

While shifting to rallies is inevitable for any party nominee during a general election, McCain has always touted town hall meetings and interactions with the press as reasons for his success.

more: http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/tag/staged-rallies/


John McCain, Man of The People.


Gregory and Matthews are RIDICULOUS ASSES.



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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:35 AM
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28. I wish that he would stop harping on the passion thing.
The Obama clips from last did not lack conviction or even passion. He was discussing some very serious financial situations. He demeanor was perfect from my viewpoint.

Apparently, Mathews see a need for political speakers to show emotion with physical theatrics.
I think he calls himself trying to help. But, he needs to cool it on this point.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 06:32 AM
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30. I hope you really sent/emailed this Frenchie! Chris seems jealous and uninformed...
I wrote him a scathing email the other day too.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:10 AM
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31. i saw it. was stupid. he had been beating up on mccain, and then turned to obama and that was all
he had. came off stupid. richardson handled it well. i have hear this floated the last couple days about obama. where is the passion. so i am going to assume it is the new talking point attack
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:19 AM
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32. what was that crap last nite that Chris Matthews was spewing
about lack of passion, geez, Obama does have passion, the man has a cool head, do we want another nut case in the WH.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:19 AM
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33. It is like Chris is being told he has to find SOMETHING to criticize Obama for
and lacking anything else... he attacks his "passion" which, as we know is totally unfounded (and who could ever consider McSame passionate?)

I watched Hardball last night (I usually do) and I really think MSNBC is coming down hard on everyone to be "balanced" and "unbiased" and therefore they stick in all these silly criticisms.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 06:47 PM
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