Biden: “If I sound angry it’s because I am angry. I am sick and tired of this"

[bigtree]

September 17, 2008




Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden Wednesday hit the road in Ohio as he likened John McCain's economic "conversion" to the Bible story of Saul on the Road to Damascus.

Biden, launching a two-day bus tour through the battleground Buckeye State, spent much of his 40-minute remarks on Maumee's idyllic West Wayne Street hitting out at Republicans for de-regulating the economy in recent years.

"Look, if John cares so much, cares so much about this now, where was he a week ago? Where was he a month ago? Where was he five years ago? I’ll tell you where he was, he was bragging to the folks on Wall Street to the executives who now he calls ‘greedy.’ He was bragging to them how we’re going to shred the regulation that fetters them, that ties them down."

"Remember that scene in this administration where a bunch of folks, I think it was the Commerce Department, or maybe it was Treasury, took out a chainsaw. They had it on TV, a chainsaw, and cut through a whole batch of regulations. Well, they were cutting your bone and sinew. They were cutting right through the very things that protected ordinary people on Main Street.

read: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/biden-launches.html





“This boy had what they called a political epiphany, not a policy one,” Biden told the crowd of 1,500.

“So let’s take a look at John’s conversion here,” Biden added, “Something happened on the road to Damascus, John fell off his horse but he got back up on the same horse.”

“So John, you got back on the same horse, you continue to push a plan that’s designed to de-regulate the health insurance industry,” said Biden, asking the crowd to raise their hands if they trust insurance companies to take care of their needs.

“I got one person who raised their hand. I got also a bridge I got to sell you and guess what? It’s in Alaska and it goes to nowhere,” he said, echoing a line Obama has been using on the stump as well.

read: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/17/biden-mccain-fell-off-his-horse/





Biden, voice raised, said “If I sound angry it’s because I am angry. I am sick and tired of this . . . Who are these guys? Where do they come from? What possible right do they have to say to anybody, particularly to us, that they know how to manage our money and manage the economy?” — and Hedge Funds, which he said need to be more transparent.

“John has said to the folks on Wall Street, and again I’m quoting here – this is in the Wall Street Journal – I’m always for less regulation. Here now, John has said he’s going to crack down on the greed on Wall Street. The greed of American corporations,” he said.

“If we’re going to bail you out, if we give you an opportunity, if we give corporations the inside track then you better damn well open your books to us and let us see exactly what you have,” he shouted. “If you don’t want our money, keep your books closed. You want our money to bail you out, then you better let us know what you’re doing and what you own.”

read: http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/17/biden-bashes-mccains-road-to-damascus-on-regulation/




Media, Pa., Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2008(AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)


"Biden said the nation is more polarized than ever before and that middle class America has gotten "kicked in the teeth" the past eight years with a Republican president in the White House.

"John McCain is fundamentally out of touch with the American people," said Mr. Biden of the Republican nominee for president. "No where has he been more out of touch than the current financial turmoil."

"President Bush promised that he would work well with Democrats and bring integrity back to the White House," Mr. Biden said. "Well folks, we saw how that story ended."

"Eight years later, what are we hearing? Another Republican who is telling us the exact same thing," Biden said. "We have seen this movie and as we all know, the sequel is always worse than the original movie."

read: http://www.cleveland.com/realtimenews/index.ssf/2008/09/biden_kicks_off_twoday_ohio_st.html



Sen. Joseph Biden speaks at a campaign rally in Media, Pa., Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2008. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)


(AP Photos/Madalyn Ruggiero -- Gerald Herbert)

[Ichingcarpenter]

1. Biden and I found the same Wall Street Journal Article

Great speech by Biden and wonder photographs



If you would like to see what McCain said in the Wall Street Journal
or his speech the same month on releasing regulatory obligations
on hedgefunds, I have the links and the quotes in this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7096209&mesg_id=7096209

[Earth Bound Misfit]

61. Thanks for the link, GREAT work...

:patriot:

BOOKMARKED

:kick:

[RNdaSilva]

105. Bump

[rucognizant]

119. WHY?

Don't I see this on CNN? Lunchtime fare uninterrupted "bull" from Mcpain...............
Wherer is angry Biden?

[alwysdrunk]

2. This is awesome

Bang on the economy and Ohio will go (barely) for Obama

[trueblue2007]

23. I just sent this into fo a friend (I think he is GOP) who lives in Ohio

Thanks for posting this. This is POWERFUL !!!!!

[peoli]

3. I have never fucking loved a ticket as much as I love Obama/Biden!

Fuck!

[jillan]

8. Me too, and I have been voting for many, many years.

[Phx_Dem]

16. DITTO. n/t

[tosh]

28. Count me in, too.

I have never felt as passionate, never donated as much $$, and never have been as GLUED to a campaign/race as I have to this one.

I LOVE OUR TICKET and everything about Obama and Biden!! I LOVE that our party feels WHOLE again!

[TuxedoKat]

55. Me three!

I've always supported the Dem presidential ticket but this one is phenomenal!

[JimWis]

60. Me four - and I have been voting alot of years. Go Joe.

[Eurobabe]

100. you can say that again!!

:woohoo:

[RNdaSilva]

103. Bump

[eshfemme]

4. Finally! The news media has finally re-discovered Biden.

What makes it sad is that they're late to the bandwagon. Biden's been faithfully stumping for Obama and going on the attack. He hasn't been lying low. It's just that the faithful old dog that Biden was couldn't compared to the strange new lipsticked piggy pitbull that Palin was for the news media. And now that Palin's shown several traits that make the news media has recoiled from, now they're forced to go back to Biden, who's just been plugging away at his job, uncomplaining.

[sandnsea]

34. Until he's on the teevee

None of this happened. We should be protesting outside teevee stations to force them to carry the damn news. All I heard this morning was that Obama can't connect and has no passion. It's that same horse McCain got back up on, the same horse the media has been letting Republicans ride to the White House for years. We've got to stop it.

[Pete2069]

111. Republicans have a groups of people with sent chain letters

When republicans see anything they don't like even the truth
which exposes their deceit , they start sending their email to
groups of their friends to email to their groups of friends
and so on , to  complain to the news Stations , newspapers and
the sponsors.
When Clinton was in office they made a daily routine of
sending their BS day and night.
Republicans know one thing ,, the wheel that makes the most
noises gets the grease no matter if it is the spare tire..

[blondeatlast]

5. Damn, he's good. Damn. Just reading it is great, but he's an INCREDIBLE speaker.

Please, Senator Biden, come to Arizona!

[lisainmilo]

108. I agree!

Joe tells it like it is! He does not hold back, I think he is great!

[Demi_Babe]

6. WTG Biden

[BattyDem]

7. I must admit - Biden was not my first choice for VP, but ...

He has turned out to be a WONDERFUL candidate and a huge asset to the campaign! There's no doubt in my mind that he'll be a great VP.

Obama really hit it out of the park when he chose Joe. :patriot:

[KathieG]

9. Fantastic...I love Joe!

[livetohike]

10. "The sequel is worse than the original movie!"

We love you Joe! Keep fighting.

[Waiting For Everyman]

11. LOLOLOL... YES! Saul! OMG, Biden must be writing his own material.

I love him! (still laughing) You go get 'em Joe!

Saul! Same horse! :rofl:

I'm mad as hell too, Joe, but that was a great laugh-break!

Thanks OP! Great pics too, thank you!

[Shakespeare]

12. "This boy".....ooohhh, that'll piss off McCain for sure.

Nice. :thumbsup:

[bdamomma]

36. being confronted with the truth always kills these repigs.

there you go John in black and white, and documented in print.

[Number23]

67. I know! I laughed and cringed at the same time when I heard that.

How in the world do you call a 73-year old a "boy?"

:rofl: :rofl:

[ecstatic]

69. lol. me too! nt

[tridim]

13. My Mom has been giving me the same "You're too angry" guilt-trip for awhile now

How can anyone NOT be angry?

We're all getting fucked. If you don't get angry you just get fucked some more.

[bdamomma]

38. what the neo cons said especially that stupid

arrogant David Addington, we will keep pushing until someone pushes us back.

well get ready Mr. Addington we are and we will push back hard.

[hisownpetard]

115. At this point, if you're not angry, you're brain-dead.

:nuke:

[Phx_Dem]

14. Biden is on a tear! He sounds GREAT!

Joe is fired up and ready to kick ass!

[SpiralHawk]

15. Dems need to get a videoclip of that chainsawing of the regs by the repugs

And make it an ad. Show America how republiconomics has flushed our economy into the crapper.

[PA Democrat]

18. I've been looking for a video clip. No luck so far.

Krugman talked about the stunt in a 2007 column.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/opinion/21krugman.html

[PA Democrat]

20. I found a photo. Not great quality though.

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/04/lack-of-financi.html

[gateley]

94. Thanks, PA Democrat! nt

[PA Democrat]

17. Go get 'em Joe! More on the chainsaw story Biden mentioned below:

But Mr. Greenspan wasn’t the only top official who put ideology above public protection. Consider the press conference held on June 3, 2003 — just about the time subprime lending was starting to go wild — to announce a new initiative aimed at reducing the regulatory burden on banks. Representatives of four of the five government agencies responsible for financial supervision used tree shears to attack a stack of paper representing bank regulations. The fifth representative, James Gilleran of the Office of Thrift Supervision, wielded a chainsaw.

Also in attendance were representatives of financial industry trade associations, which had been lobbying for deregulation. As far as I can tell from press reports, there were no representatives of consumer interests on the scene.

Two months after that event the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, one of the tree-shears-wielding agencies, moved to exempt national banks from state regulations that protect consumers against predatory lending. If, say, New York State wanted to protect its own residents — well, sorry, that wasn’t allowed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/opinion/21krugman.html

[Sugarcoated]

19. Is there an actual picture from the Commerce committee chainsaw

moment? The Commerce Committee that McCreepy was the chairman of? A picture of that in an ad would be devastating!

[PA Democrat]

27. I found one

The official line-up left to right:

Holding the chainsaw James Gilleran Director of of the Office of Thrift Supervision, Jim McLaughlin of the American Bankers Association, Harry Doherty of America's Community Bankers, John Reich FDIC Vice Chairman, and Ken Guenther of the Independent Community Bankers of America.


Edited to add names of people in the photograph.

[Sugarcoated]

35. Who are the stiffs?

[PA Democrat]

41. I updated the post to add names to the faces.

[Sugarcoated]

47. My, don't they look fat and happy

[sop]

87. Please, oh please...somebody turn this into an ad immediately

Since he joked about it, I'd bet the Obama-Biden campaign already has the video....I can't wait for this ad.

[KayLaw]

29. I, too, would love to hear more.

I don't remember this at all!

[MBS]

21. this is terrific.

A welcome antidote to an otherwise depressing news day.Thanks for posting.

[dgibby]

22. Not only is John McCain out of touch with the American people,

he's out of touch with reality. Time for the rubber room and the designer "I love me" jacket!:crazy:

[truedelphi]

46. If you can catch tody's re-runs of yesterday's Jon Stewart

He did a great little piece on how McCain's "Straight Talk"
Express has become the "Circular Talk" Express, and jon offererd it up complete with a visual.

[hamsterjill]

24. My VP!

Now that, my friends, is what a real Vice President looks and acts like!

[grantcart]

25. great post and thanks for coming back to GDP

I had to keep going to GD to hunt your posts down!!

[Raffi Ella]

26. that's right, tell'em Joe.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Waiting For Everyman]

30. The few Repub comments in the articles

all basically said why didn't Biden (and Dems) do anything to stop this?

I love it! Dems are supposed to always "save the Repubs from themselves". Repubs do the damage, but if the Dems can't stop them, the Dems are to blame. What utter bullshit! And they DO save the day, more often than not.

Unbelievable nerve, they have. Not to mention abject stupidity. But morons are for joke-material.

Guess they forget about C-SPAN, and that some people read... and more than once every 4 years.

I also noticed that the same identical comments appeared repeatedly at intervals - obviously someone pasted them in to appear as if more people share their pov, and to muddy the waters.

[KayLaw]

43. In 2003?

The Republicans ruled it all, correct?

[butterfly77]

31. This is why I always said ...

[bdamomma]

32. leave it to Joe to spell it out.

he's great, I like the way he gets his points across.

he is even tired of the BS.

[politicasista]

33. K & R!

Go Obama/Biden! :kick: :yourock:

[medicswife]

37. He is a master of visceral speaking...

"they were cutting through your bone and sinew"

He gets right to the gut. I heard him the other day talking about the Violence Against Women act and how McCain voted against it and he talked about how many millions of women have "screwed up their courage and hid in the corner with the telephone" calling the National Hotline that the VAW act established.

He gives me goosebumps and Obama always makes me cry.

The two of them are incredible and I love them both.

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[saltpoint]

73. Great points, excellent post.

I loved it.

Thank you. :thumbsup: :hi:

[blueclown]

39. who are the idiots who wanted him gone?

he's been a terrific surrogate for this campaign.

2 weeks of a palin orgasm doesn't change that.

[bdamomma]

40. I think this deserves a donation

who else thinks so?

[medicswife]

42. Absolutely! Get out your wallets again people! nt

[Hope And Change]

44. K & R!

[rvablue]

45. Of course none of this will make it to the nightly news....

Seriously, WTF?
We are in the one of the most important, historic and contested presidential races in the history of our country and as I flip through the three networks each night, there are no clips aired of the campaign trail. On either side!!!
I'd actually love it if they played a clip every freakin' night of Palin, because then people would start to see how she just repeats the same thing over and over and over again.
ARGHHHH!

[BlueIdaho]

48. What a magnificent bastard!

Tell 'em the truth Joe - you now its gonna sound like you are giving 'em hell now!

[Left Is Write]

49. How I love that man. He always manages to inspire me.

[noel711]

50. I loves me some Joe....

And you DU guys lusting after Palin....

well, I can lust after Joe,
and still stay true to my party..

so there!

[Jennicut]

57. Yes, there is alot of us lusting after Joe these days

and he is our VP do that makes it so much better.

[JerseygirlCT]

51. That's why I love this guy. nt

[chiefofclarinet]

52. This, "my friends," is an attack dog

This is what an attack dog does. An attack dog goes on the offensive, chasing after the bad guys. Biden is an attack dog. He scolds the opposition for its problems. He hammers on policy and the ticket's plans, not petty bickering over semantics.

An attack dog doesn't look pretty, and distract people. That would be a lap dog. That is one of those miniature dogs in a sickening sweater. Palin is a lap dog.

So, America, what do you want? Do you want your Vice President to go on the attack at world's problems, or to look cute in overpriced clothes?

[Earth Bound Misfit]

65. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS...

:kick: :patriot:

Joe IS One of US.

I LOVE THIS MAN!!!

[pleah]

53. Biden is the fire ball that is aimed right between the eyes of McSame!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[jefferson_dem]

54. I Love Joe!

Literally. This man is the shiznit!

[Shine]

56. I. LOVE. THIS. MAN.

:applause: Go, Joe, go!! Tellin' it like it is. :thumbsup:

[Imagevision]

58. Joe, we're all sick and tired of this...!

[bigtree]

59. kick

:kick:

[rosesaylavee]

62. (((ON FIRE)))

Thanks for posting.

Good to see someone pissed and able to express themselves to large crowds.

[RagAss]

63. GO JOE !!!!!

[WheelWalker]

64. Joe is an absolute gentleman of an animal. n/t

[gateley]

96. Oh, that's GOOD, VI! nt

[autorank]

66. The pleasures of an Irish politician k*r

He's cranking it up. What a delight to see a real Irish pol in action, full tilt.

[Qutzupalotl]

68. I am so glad to see Joe back on the stump.

He's good.

[saltpoint]

70. Joe Biden.

One of the Great Democrats on the stump in Ohio putting the hurt to John McCain.

I love it.

[vanderBeth]

71. Oh, Joe. How I love thee.

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[AzDar]

72. Give 'em hell, Joey!

:thumbsup:

[JI7]

74. i really hope the local news are covering him

i think most people get their news from there anyways, plus word of mouth. he is very effective as long as people get to see him.

[DrZeeLit]

75. Perfect pitch. Keep these ideas flowing. These thoughts are bubbling through the minds of everyone

with a bank account, a brokerage account, an annuity, a 401K, a CD or two or three, an IRA or two or three, a pension --- EVERYONE who WORKS!!!

I love these lines particularly:

“If we’re going to bail you out, if we give you an opportunity, if we give corporations the inside track then you better damn well open your books to us and let us see exactly what you have,” he shouted. “If you don’t want our money, keep your books closed. You want our money to bail you out, then you better let us know what you’re doing and what you own.”

God, I love the smell of INTEGRITY in the morning!!!!

[saltpoint]

76. This could well be the first election with the veep selections as a major

factor.

And on that count, I think the guy on the blue team is a lot more impressive and accomplished than the gal on the red team.

Obama's judgment has been outstanding to date. McCain's, not so much.

[YvonneCa]

79. I, for one, think Biden was an EXCELLENT ...

...choice.

[saltpoint]

80. Me, too. As good as it gets in public service, in fact.

And he's been doin' it great for years.

Poor Governor Palin. I bet she's got some serious butterflies for the veep debate coming up...


:hi:

[1corona4u]

81. I really like that people now, are seeing what a lot of us Bidenites

have seen, and been defending for a long, long time. :-) Nice to have everyone now understand why we fought so hard for Joe.

[saltpoint]

83. Agree on all counts. This guy's been on the front line of

the republic for a long time.

The ghosts of Paine, Jefferson, and Madison would very likely seek out Joe Biden for a civil conversation around a kitchen table. They make far less frequent visits to our country than in the old days, but they go out of their way to converse with the likes of Joe Biden.

I hope Biden can be sent by the campaign to as many retirement venues in Florida as possible. I think he would make a huge difference in Florida.

[1corona4u]

84. I think he already has, from what I have seen.

Most of my clients are elderly and Jewish, and they really like him. :-)Since the primaries, I have yet to converse with one that didn't, and I see about 20 or so a week. :-)

[saltpoint]

85. Good! He can work a lot of magic in the final outcome of this

race.

I think Obama chose very, very well.

[Eurobabe]

101. Hear Hear!!

:toast: :toast:

I loves me some Joe. :loveya:

[concerned canadian]

77. K&R

Go Joe

[gateley]

95. Thank you for your concern and thank you for your support.

:hi:

[YvonneCa]

78. Thanks, Joe...

...for all you are doing.:patriot:

[LonelyLRLiberal]

82. WOW!!! You go, Joe!

Keep it up!

[kmdemqueen]

97. He is really good

I wonder if he writes those speeches himself. well regardless he sure knows how to delivier them.

[goodgd_yall]

86. And has the MSM been paying any attention to Biden?

I'm starting a writing campaign complaining about his lack of coverage. Every night I have to watch something about Caribou Killer and not one snippet ever of Joe Biden.

[PBS Poll-435]

88. Thanks bigtree!!

I miss your photojournal posts from the "old" days!

I hope all is well.

[trthnd4jstc]

89. He Has A Pair! n/t

[Triana]

90. Smokin' Joe tells 'em right where the bu$hit in the buckwheat. He's got a way with words...

...and he doesn't mince a one of 'em.

And frankly, now is NOT the time to pussyfoot around and mince words about our circumstances. Joe puts it RIGHT out there in plain daylight.

That's the change we need. That's the VP we need.

Obama chose the right person for VP. He tells it like it is.

[TheDonkey]

91. DAMN Biden can get tough and dirty. I love it.

[Miss Chybil]

92. "as we all know, the sequel is always worse than the original movie."

I love that.

[gateley]

93. That's my guy -- and our next Vice President! nt

[OakCliffDem]

98. Go get them Joe

I can't wait for the debates.

[Eurobabe]

99. God love ya Joe. Keep hammering this home baby!!

My love for Biden knows no bounds. :loveya: :loveya:

[Grinchie]

102. He won me over

Even though he is a DLC stooge

[Jennicut]

113. He is not part of the DLC

Check out the list:

http://www.nndb.com/group/269/000093987/

Biden is not there. You may not agree with all of his views but he is not DLC at all.

[happygoluckytoyou]

104. McCain....AGENT OF CHANGE.... right now it is 10 cents change... buddy can you spare a dime ?

[xyouth]

106. Why aren't these guys bringing up the relationships

between McCain and Keating at this point. This Clearly shows that he has poor judgment when it comes to laws that affect his contributers and friends.

Also...

Is there more to the story of his son and the failure of Silver State bank?

[CrispyQ]

107. "...the sequel is always worse than the original movie."

I love this man! We have an outstanding ticket! I have never been as excited about our dem candidates as I am this year!

[Balderdash]

109. That's the Biden that I love

No nonsense, no bs, he is driving the straight talk express...

[bushisanidiot]

110. Big Joe Biden is the real deal. He knows exactly the right thing to say

at the right time. He may have a gaffe now and then, but his message is coming through loud and clear and he is bloodying the repukes nose and he's doing it with folksy imagery and some good down-home tact. It's easy for the average american to listen to him and understand him..and be inspired by him. He is good for Obama and I think he will learn a thing or two from Big Joe when they are in the white house.

He was a GREAT VP pick.. as much as I wanted Hillary, Joe really knows how to sock 'em between the eyes like no body else!!

[Steely_Dan]

112. Biden!

It is no secret that I have passionately supported Mr. Biden from day one. He was my choice for President. It is strange (in some small way) to see people "discovering" the kind of person Biden has been all along. Many of us saw this passion, this dedication, this statesmanship from the very beginning knowing that this was not only the most qualified candidate on either side, but that he was exactly what this country needed at this critical time. While I would have rather seen a Biden/Obama ticket, I am pleased that Biden is there by Obama's side and will help guide him with qualified advice and unquestioned experience.

-P

[YOY]

114. Biden is our angry voice.

Obama is our cool and collected voice.

Nice compliment to each other.

[Overseas]

116. Go Biden !! I like him taking the traditional role of a feisty VP nominee !! /nt

[southpaw]

117. That's it, Joe! Get MAD!

And pull no punches. This is the kind of thing that gets people excited!

[Greyskye]

118. Proud to give the 100th ANGRY rec!

:patriot: Joe Biden :patriot: