Was some male in Palin's life ever accused or charged with rape?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

I can understand a diversity of opinion on legal procedure, choice, etc.., but Palin seems to be actually ANTI rape victim.

It's a weird stance.

Now I will grant that I don't know anything about rape in Alaskan culture but historically most frontiers with a female shortage have been very protective of women. So I don't know of any regional reason to be contemptuous of the idea of pursuing rape allegations.

Any thoughts?

[Ian David]

1. I've been wondering the same thing for a while.

4. I would bet money that either Todd or Track are serial rapists, and she does this to protect them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7098936&mesg_id=7099359

[rufus dog]

2. I am thinking the same thing.

She has a brother, where is he?

Other than him it could be Todd, she is too narcissistic to care about anyone other than her immediate family.

Unless that Sarah Barracuda nickname isn't basketball related.

Edit - I forgot about the illustrous Track. Thanks Ian

[Ian David]

3. Deuteronomy 22

22:23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
22:24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. Country Rape
If a woman is raped in the country, then only the man shall die (since there was no one to hear her if she cried out.)
22:26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
22:27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.

More:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/22.html#23

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. Charged?

Probably not.

[walldude]

5. No. She's just an asshole. n/t

[Ian David]

6. It could be that Todd raped Sarah and her parents forced her to marry him.

That could be the root of all that pathology.

[uppityperson]

7. You mean "a raped woman deserves it" or did something to cause it? Wouldn't surprise me.

I didn't run into those attitudes in Ak more than other places, they are still prevalent though.

[rufus dog]

8. Interesting

That could be a motive too! Someone she knew, and didn't like got raped and in Sarah's fucked up mind her adversary "deserved it"

K&H is on to something, it is a very strange position to take, to go out of your way to mess with a victim.

[Lucky 13]

9. It's a fundie thing.

My mother is the same way. She's thinks many women who are raped were "asking for it" - they dress too provocatively, they were engaging in risky behavior, whatever.

Upon hearing that a woman is claiming rape, her first response would be to ask where she was, what she was doing, and what she was wearing because she's pretty sure the woman brought it on herself.

She also thinks that the victim's sexual history should be fair game in a court of law. i.e. she is a slut so she probably wanted it.

She believes that many cases of rape are just her word vs. his. To psycho analyze further, compound this with the fundie belief that women need to submit to the leadership of men. Therefore, claiming you were raped is calling a man's character into question and elevating your authority above his. Which, of course, is frowned upon. And really who is more believable, a man or a woman?

The main point is that rape victims shouldn't be surprised or outraged if they were raped because they were probably leading a lifestyle contrary to God's plan for us which landed them in their "situation". Rape doesn't happen to good people. They should take it as a lesson learned and go shut up about it.


It's way beyond fucked up, I know. But seriously, that's how these people think. It's incomprehensible.

[CampDem]

10. Fascinating question, I would like to share my opinions with you

When the Russians came here they raped the native women. The gold miners took what they wanted from the land and treated the women like garbage while the men were murdered if they stood up to them. They brought diseases and wiped out entire villages in a single generation. Then the Americans came and decided to bring religion and education to the villages. The rounded up the children and forced them to go to boarding schools. The children were raped by priests and beaten if they practiced any of their native culture. This all took place in the very recent past. The natives were traumatized beyond belief and they did not speak of the rapes for many years.Sexual assault became a secret no one mentioned.

Even in modern Anchorage native women are targeted and are almost 10 times more likely to be raped then white women. The political component to this involves our government being too cheap and lazy to fix the problems in the culture and infrastructure that contribute to this nightmare. They do what they can so that rapes are under reported in Alaska. They are embarrassed about the statistics, but only care about artificially lowering them for political purposes. There are places in Alaska where rape occurs so frequently that women won't leave their homes without carhardts on because of fear that they will be assaulted without them. Think about third world countries, places with no local law enforcement, no running water,no hospitals, and only your family to protect you.It is like that in certain villages.

[mikekohr]

11. When Native Women are Raped,90%+ of the Time its By Members of Other Races

Murkowski said funding is needed for every aspect of sexual assault, including initial investigation, prosecution and incarceration. She is seeking an appropriation in the upcoming budget, she said.
The senator gave an alarming list of the statistics that describe Alaska's "epidemic" of sex crimes: One out of five adults will be a victim of forcible rape in their lifetime, or nearly 44,000 adults; an adult Alaska woman is raped every 18 minutes; more adult women have been raped than wear glasses or contacts.
"Our statistics are almost unimaginable, given our population," she said.
http://www.adn.com/209/story/190180.html

• 80-90% of rapes against women (except for American Indian women) are committed by someone of the same racial background as the victim. (US Dept. of Justice 1994)
• American Indian victims of rape reported the offender as either white or black in 90% of reports. (Department of Justice 1997)
http://www2.ucsc.edu/rape-prevention/statistics.html (the breakdown of rape perps against Native Women is 12% Black, 78% White)

Only Alaska (20.9% of its women raped versus 20.6% in Utah compared to 13.4% of all women nationally) has a higher rate in the United States. The estimates are said to be conservative because they do not include the cases of women who have experienced attempted rape; rapes where the women were unconscious or impaired by drugs or alcohol; or statutory rape where there was no force. (Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/03)
http://www.mazeministry.com/mormonism/statistics/rape.h...


mike kohr

p.s. I'm from a small, rural community, in Illinois. Rape and incest are not values we practice or appreciate, but in the rare case these abominations do occur we DO NOT charge the victim for the rape test. Never did. Never will. Never even considered it.

mike kohr

[CampDem]

12. Yes!

Most of the rapes here are not done by native men. These women are being targeted by mostly white men. Our government does not want the world to know what goes on here because it is race on race. This supposedly does not happen in Amerika any more right?